May 5 2011, 11:35 AM
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Hi,
I am planning to start again my SR campaign but I feel the character were to strong the last time... Even since the start using basic rules. They were very seldom indangered by opposition. Magic user in peculiar were gamebreaker (adepts less than caster but even them), overcasting and spirit summoning make them far too strong, especially as spirit aren't enough limitated in the rules and are so damn fast to summon even on the flight. Mind control, healing or invisibility spell rules, the same than social adept talent they can ruin a scenario very fast by controlling NPC. I fail to really hurt them in battle because of the amount of concealable armor avaliable, I had to resolve for all opposition to use narrow burst of APCR wich make a lot of the gear in the book totally useless. And even when I hurt them the mage wave his hand and cure it all. Drain was a great disappointement, especially Overcasting drain who was a plain joke. Magician just doesnt really care about it as it was very easy to cancel/heal. The only way I feel out of it would have been to resort to true Munchkinism but that is a way I dont want to follow. Anyone with a set of rules/house rules to produce less strong characters and more lethal background ? |
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IKerensky PC are too strong, what to do ? May 5 2011, 11:35 AM
Hagga Use the background count rules. Add in magical opp... May 5 2011, 12:03 PM
Blade Drain doesn't magically heal and if you apply ... May 5 2011, 12:53 PM
sabs huge amounts of armor means that you're taking... May 5 2011, 12:55 PM
Loch Background Count (Street Magic p. 117) is your fri... May 5 2011, 12:58 PM
Brazilian_Shinobi While throwing a lot of magicians to attack your P... May 5 2011, 12:58 PM
Sengir Killer security vs. mages: The building lights swi... May 5 2011, 01:18 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ May 5 2011, 06:18 AM) Kil... May 5 2011, 01:23 PM
Sengir QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2011, 02... May 5 2011, 01:58 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ May 5 2011, 06:58 AM) If ... May 5 2011, 02:08 PM
Sengir QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2011, 02... May 5 2011, 03:04 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ May 5 2011, 08:04 AM) He ... May 5 2011, 04:01 PM
Sengir QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2011, 05... May 6 2011, 11:48 AM
Kyrel QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2011, 01:48 PM) So ... May 6 2011, 12:59 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2011, 01:48 PM) So ... May 6 2011, 01:22 PM

Sengir QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 6 2011, 01:22 PM... May 6 2011, 02:30 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2011, 08:30 AM) Uh ... May 6 2011, 02:35 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2011, 05:48 AM) So ... May 6 2011, 01:33 PM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2011, 07:48 AM) So ... May 6 2011, 01:47 PM
Warlordtheft For increased lethality things to kkep in mind reg... May 5 2011, 01:19 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein [quote name='Warlordtheft' date='May 5... May 5 2011, 01:27 PM
cndblank Great thread all (as I take notes for the gunsling... May 5 2011, 06:06 PM
CeeJay Just two more things regarding magic:
- Casting o... May 5 2011, 01:33 PM
Wesley Street @OP. Limit your PCs to 300BP in charagen. It doesn... May 5 2011, 01:34 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 5 2011, 03:34 ... May 5 2011, 03:35 PM
Wesley Street QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 5 2011, 10:35 AM... May 6 2011, 12:01 PM
nezumi I don't know how new you are to the game. SR h... May 5 2011, 01:39 PM
Blade Since we've drifted towards a "non house-... May 5 2011, 01:44 PM
Ascalaphus What kind of opposition are you using? If it's... May 5 2011, 01:57 PM
Blade QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ May 5 2011, 03:57 PM)... May 5 2011, 02:02 PM
longbowrocks QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ May 5 2011, 05:57 AM)... May 5 2011, 02:35 PM
sabs Mages wearing contacs/glasses will have problems w... May 5 2011, 02:02 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 07:02 AM) Mages... May 5 2011, 02:09 PM
sabs Indirect Combat spells generate a spell construct ... May 5 2011, 02:15 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 07:15 AM) Indir... May 5 2011, 02:28 PM
Irion @Tymeaus Jalynsfein
You need a free LOS.
QUOTE A... May 5 2011, 02:18 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Irion @ May 5 2011, 07:18 AM) @Tym... May 5 2011, 02:26 PM
UmaroVI You seem to be describing two problems. Figure out... May 5 2011, 02:26 PM
longbowrocks Don't forget to apply the spirit's edge to... May 5 2011, 02:31 PM
sabs Mage sight goggles are an affront to shadowrun M... May 5 2011, 02:32 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 07:32 AM) Mage ... May 5 2011, 02:44 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 03:32 PM) Mage ... May 5 2011, 06:16 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2011, 08... May 5 2011, 02:35 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 07:35... May 5 2011, 02:47 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 5 2011, 09... May 5 2011, 03:02 PM
Fortinbras QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 10:02... May 5 2011, 03:17 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 08:02... May 5 2011, 04:07 PM
sabs form fitting full body armor is 6/2, but counts as... May 5 2011, 02:40 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 09:40 AM) form ... May 5 2011, 02:56 PM
sabs QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 02:56... May 5 2011, 03:07 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 10:07 AM) That... May 5 2011, 04:16 PM
Fortinbras Also, don't forget that if you need some examp... May 5 2011, 02:42 PM
James McMurray Remember that as GM you have infinite numbers on y... May 5 2011, 02:44 PM
redwulf25 QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 10:44... May 5 2011, 10:06 PM
sabs Never underestimate the power of suppression fire ... May 5 2011, 02:45 PM
DireRadiant Shadowrun is not Arena combat. Arena combat can be... May 5 2011, 03:24 PM
Irion Throw a granade. May 5 2011, 03:43 PM
Dez384 QUOTE (Irion @ May 5 2011, 11:43 AM) Thro... May 5 2011, 04:11 PM
Blade If you want to restrict your PC's power after ... May 5 2011, 03:46 PM
Seth I have a much simpler option than the above: numbe... May 5 2011, 04:14 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Seth @ May 5 2011, 09:14 AM) I hav... May 5 2011, 04:28 PM
sabs What rules did I break? I'm really confused a... May 5 2011, 04:22 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 11:22 AM) What ... May 5 2011, 04:35 PM
Seth My favourite tactic actually is to adopt an idea f... May 5 2011, 04:46 PM
sabs Yeah:
Defender has defended against
previous att... May 5 2011, 04:47 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (sabs @ May 5 2011, 06:47 PM) Anoth... May 5 2011, 06:47 PM
Nath QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 5 2011, 08:47 PM... May 5 2011, 08:30 PM
Yerameyahu It depends on who you're fighting, of course. May 5 2011, 05:17 PM
KCKitsune You know, IKerensky, you could always sit your pla... May 5 2011, 05:33 PM
Yerameyahu Interesting. I love when core mechanics are assemb... May 5 2011, 08:31 PM
Manunancy In the opening post you mentioned the PCs being he... May 5 2011, 10:07 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Manunancy @ May 5 2011, 03:07 PM) ... May 5 2011, 10:34 PM
Cain You know, I'm surprised no one's mentioned... May 5 2011, 10:51 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cain @ May 5 2011, 03:51 PM) You k... May 5 2011, 11:04 PM
James McMurray What sorts of situational modifiers can the opposi... May 6 2011, 02:41 AM
CanRay QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 09:41... May 6 2011, 02:49 AM
Cain QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 5 2011, 07:41... May 6 2011, 03:34 AM
Glyph Some things to remember about mental manipulations... May 6 2011, 02:56 AM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Glyph @ May 6 2011, 04:56 AM) Also... May 6 2011, 04:18 AM
Yerameyahu I've never really understood Leadership; isn... May 6 2011, 03:02 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 5 2011, 10:02 PM)... May 6 2011, 03:39 AM
longbowrocks "Buddy, can you hear me? Sorry about that ill... May 6 2011, 03:42 AM
Yerameyahu It's not a war game, CanRay. It's crazy th... May 6 2011, 03:47 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 5 2011, 10:47 PM)... May 6 2011, 03:59 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 5 2011, 09:47 PM)... May 6 2011, 01:26 PM
longbowrocks That would be hilarious.
You're ordered to sho... May 6 2011, 04:28 AM
CanRay Or a Mystical Adept that has the same amount of IP... May 6 2011, 04:31 AM
Fortinbras Why do I get the feeling I saw that in a Joss Whed... May 6 2011, 04:47 AM
IKerensky Interesting suggestion all
To reply a few :
Use... May 6 2011, 07:29 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (IKerensky @ May 6 2011, 02:29 AM) ... May 6 2011, 02:21 PM
jizo This article is from the point of view of someone ... May 6 2011, 08:02 AM
DireRadiant "Line of Sight" is an interesting concep... May 6 2011, 02:34 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (DireRadiant @ May 6 2011, 04:34 PM... May 6 2011, 02:44 PM
Yerameyahu According to the FAQ, you *can* use hearing… or ev... May 6 2011, 02:43 PM
sabs Well, what's even more irritating, if you... May 6 2011, 02:50 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (sabs @ May 6 2011, 08:50 AM) Well,... May 6 2011, 03:11 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (sabs @ May 6 2011, 04:50 PM) Well,... May 6 2011, 03:20 PM
sabs It's an other sense where lighting and sight m... May 6 2011, 03:31 PM
Ascalaphus Persuasion would be a bit of a catch-all social sk... May 6 2011, 03:59 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ May 6 2011, 09:59 AM)... May 6 2011, 04:27 PM![]() ![]() |
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