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post Jun 1 2011, 10:48 PM
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OK, so my team, including myself, has all of our commlinks slaved to my external commlink running battle-tac.
The street sam has skinlink on and all cyberware set to DNI only. Meaning that his cyberware only accepts commands from his commlink, and his commlink only accepts commands from my commlink.
The only way he can be messed with wirelessly is to hack the master commlink, right?

As in, spoof doesn't work against his gear, because it's secured, and you can't get to his commlink without going through my commlink. Sounds too simple.
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- Bearclaw   Spoofing vs Slaved Commlink   Jun 1 2011, 10:48 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   A only accepts commands from B, and B only accepts...   Jun 1 2011, 10:54 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 1 2011, 03...   Jun 1 2011, 11:15 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jun 1 2011, 07:15 PM) I...   Jun 1 2011, 11:21 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jun 1 2011, 07:15 PM) I...   Jun 1 2011, 11:25 PM
- - Makki   slaved devices are not unhackable or unspoofable a...   Jun 1 2011, 11:08 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 1 2011, 07:08 PM) slav...   Jun 1 2011, 11:14 PM
- - Bearclaw   Sorry, I edited before you answered   Jun 1 2011, 11:22 PM
- - Fortinbras   One can Spoof commands to his commlink if they hav...   Jun 1 2011, 11:25 PM
- - Laughing One   Unwired, pg55 under "Slaving". QUOTE ......   Jun 1 2011, 11:25 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Unwired p55)Hackers have three options when...   Jun 1 2011, 11:28 PM
- - Bearclaw   My impression is, to spoof a command, you have to ...   Jun 1 2011, 11:30 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jun 1 2011, 07:30 PM) M...   Jun 1 2011, 11:32 PM
- - Bearclaw   From pg. 236 BBB QUOTE The target of a spoof atte...   Jun 1 2011, 11:33 PM
- - Fortinbras   You are turning the commlink to a peripheral devic...   Jun 1 2011, 11:39 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Well, 'Peripheral device' isn't define...   Jun 1 2011, 11:44 PM
- - Bearclaw   So....having cyberware is stupid? If any jackass w...   Jun 1 2011, 11:48 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jun 1 2011, 05:48 PM) S...   Jun 2 2011, 12:56 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 07:56 PM) (beca...   Jun 2 2011, 01:19 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 1 2011, 07:19 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 04:04 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 11:04 PM) Are y...   Jun 2 2011, 04:12 AM
- - Fortinbras   You need to check out Unwired. It gives a great ma...   Jun 1 2011, 11:54 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Mutual signal range includes any and all devices t...   Jun 2 2011, 12:08 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 1 2011, 07...   Jun 2 2011, 12:41 AM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 1 2011, 07:41 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 04:24 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 1 2011, 11...   Jun 2 2011, 04:46 AM
||- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 1 2011, 11:46 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 05:08 AM
||- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 12...   Jun 2 2011, 05:36 AM
||- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 2 2011, 01:36 AM)...   Jun 2 2011, 03:03 PM
||- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 10...   Jun 2 2011, 06:09 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 1 2011, 10...   Jun 2 2011, 04:51 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 11:51 PM) While...   Jun 2 2011, 05:05 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 1 2011, 11:05 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 05:09 AM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 2 2011, 12:09 AM) Alas,...   Jun 2 2011, 05:16 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 1 2011, 06...   Jun 2 2011, 12:22 AM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jun 1 2011, 07:22...   Jun 2 2011, 12:43 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Basically the only really effective way to not be ...   Jun 2 2011, 12:41 AM
- - James McMurray   Cool. I was responding specifically to the claim t...   Jun 2 2011, 12:45 AM
- - Fortinbras   Yeah, Peripheral Nodes are clearly defined on p. 4...   Jun 2 2011, 12:50 AM
- - baronspam   Because of the vulnerability to spoofing I think t...   Jun 2 2011, 03:03 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (baronspam @ Jun 1 2011, 09:03 PM) ...   Jun 2 2011, 04:15 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Actually to do all three. You should slave your c...   Jun 2 2011, 04:33 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 2 2011, 12:33...   Jun 2 2011, 09:40 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jun 2 2011, 03:40 PM) ...   Jun 2 2011, 10:05 PM
- - CanRay   If you slave a CommLink, you better watch out for ...   Jun 2 2011, 05:24 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Have the TacNet on a separate network than your ot...   Jun 2 2011, 06:17 AM
- - Eimi   Also, for people mentioning a smartlink being the...   Jun 2 2011, 08:45 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Nah, the smartlink should just be skinlinked anywa...   Jun 2 2011, 01:09 PM
- - ravensoracle   Why not just add a script to your slaved device. I...   Jun 2 2011, 01:33 PM
- - squee_nabob   I don't consider spoofing to be that much of a...   Jun 2 2011, 01:49 PM
- - suoq   I'll admit. I'm not a fan of my gear being...   Jun 2 2011, 02:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   suoq, skinlink doesn't remove the wireless opt...   Jun 2 2011, 03:49 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   No, but it does have an operating system, and in S...   Jun 2 2011, 04:34 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, but the fact that Pilots exist and *themselve...   Jun 2 2011, 06:09 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by...   Jun 2 2011, 06:50 PM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 01...   Jun 2 2011, 07:43 PM
- - Bearclaw   In your code example, you make it clear that the s...   Jun 2 2011, 07:50 PM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Jun 2 2011, 02:50 PM) Y...   Jun 2 2011, 07:53 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   You're extrapolating a ton of stuff. Read thr...   Jun 2 2011, 08:15 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 02...   Jun 2 2011, 08:57 PM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 03...   Jun 2 2011, 09:25 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Right, but my point is that it is something you ca...   Jun 2 2011, 09:10 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 03...   Jun 2 2011, 09:19 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 2 2011, 04:19 PM) Take ...   Jun 2 2011, 10:50 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 03...   Jun 2 2011, 10:57 PM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 2 2011, 05...   Jun 2 2011, 11:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I didn't read everything yet, but *any* change...   Jun 2 2011, 09:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That all seems pretty clear, Fortinbras. Because...   Jun 2 2011, 09:48 PM
|- - Fortinbras   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 2 2011, 04:48 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 10:28 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 2 2011, 05:28 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 10:53 PM
- - James McMurray   So wait... You're saying players don't wan...   Jun 2 2011, 10:17 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   I might even give a little bit of credit if it was...   Jun 2 2011, 10:23 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It can, for peripheral devices. So it'll be ok...   Jun 2 2011, 10:58 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 2 2011, 03:58 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 10:59 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 2 2011, 05:58 PM)...   Jun 3 2011, 12:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Um, seriously. It's there in black and white o...   Jun 3 2011, 01:52 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Geez x.x kept missing that box. Still don't k...   Jun 3 2011, 02:07 AM
- - Yerameyahu   AFAIK, you can probably 'program' arbitrar...   Jun 3 2011, 02:29 AM
- - deek   Ghost, wouldn't you at least need to find the ...   Jun 3 2011, 02:13 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Oh yes, if you want to change over multiple slaves...   Jun 3 2011, 02:32 PM
- - deek   I think the only way you'd know the slave alre...   Jun 3 2011, 02:40 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (deek @ Jun 3 2011, 03:40 PM) I thi...   Jun 3 2011, 02:43 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (deek @ Jun 3 2011, 10:40 AM) Even ...   Jun 3 2011, 02:46 PM
- - deek   Ghost, the way I am reading it is all traffic (whi...   Jun 3 2011, 02:55 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   You could still get the access ID from scanning, j...   Jun 3 2011, 02:58 PM
|- - deek   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 3 2011, 10...   Jun 3 2011, 03:10 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (deek @ Jun 3 2011, 09:10 AM) Would...   Jun 3 2011, 03:20 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Yes, and you do have to go through the master node...   Jun 3 2011, 03:21 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   You cannot spoof a Slave unless you have access to...   Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM
- - suoq   I don't see how spoofing the access ID of the ...   Jun 3 2011, 03:43 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 3 2011, 08:43 AM) I don...   Jun 3 2011, 03:52 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 3 2011, 11...   Jun 3 2011, 03:56 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 3 2011, 08...   Jun 3 2011, 04:01 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   No one was disputing any of that, I don't see ...   Jun 3 2011, 03:47 PM
- - Fortinbras   But if both nodes are communicating wirelessly, ar...   Jun 3 2011, 03:58 PM
- - deek   Yeah, for spoofing, you just need to know the Acce...   Jun 3 2011, 04:02 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (deek @ Jun 3 2011, 09:02 AM) Yeah,...   Jun 3 2011, 04:04 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Hmm, that's weird, I assumed that spoofing a c...   Jun 3 2011, 04:07 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 3 2011, 09...   Jun 3 2011, 04:11 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Yeah, QUOTE You send a command to a device or agen...   Jun 3 2011, 04:11 PM
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