IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Improving Cyberware, Because ware shouldn't become obsolete
LurkerOutThere
post Jun 4 2011, 03:55 PM
Post #1


Runner
******

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 2,946
Joined: 1-June 09
From: Omaha
Member No.: 17,234



So i've been somewhat frustrated lately as the game becomes more and more hostile to ware and augmentation while at the same time continues to throw new toys at the magic using set. I look at additional spells and improvement to things like trodes but when I look at the ware catalog it's more or less the same as when i first started playing the game in second edition. As such i'm trying to compile a list of ware that needs a bit of a shot in the arm or improvement and then format a series of house rules to apply the same.

First thing: Drop the first aid/medicine modifier for lack of essence. I've worked on enough bloody people to know that having them bleed less would actually likely be helpful, or at the very least not hurt my chances any more.

Datajack - The venerable datajack gets reworked withs ome of the same tech that allows trodes to work better taking advantage of it's direct link to a users brain to provide the full DNI 2.0 experience: Datajacks now allow users to take and additional free action and a complex or two simples in regards to the matrix or other online devices.
Problems with implantation: We'd need to codify what can be done with these actions, if instructing your drone to fire is ok why wouldn't instrucitng your cyberarm to fire? (i'm actually pretty comfortable with this, but others might not be). Also some way for technomancers to do the same would have to be implented through echos or complex forms or something.

Smartlink - An implanted smart link's better tap into your hand eye complex allows you to ignore the pentalties for shooting FROM cover.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- LurkerOutThere   Improving Cyberware   Jun 4 2011, 03:55 PM
- - Halflife   The Macro Echo allows Technomancers to take an add...   Jun 4 2011, 04:10 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 4 2011, 08:55...   Jun 4 2011, 04:15 PM
- - Halflife   I do like the idea of applying the Essence Loss Pe...   Jun 4 2011, 04:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Halflife @ Jun 4 2011, 09:17 AM) I...   Jun 4 2011, 04:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The datajack idea seems very complex and probably ...   Jun 4 2011, 04:29 PM
- - HunterHerne   However, that would only be for mana spells. Phys...   Jun 4 2011, 04:33 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Change the cost/benefit ratio so that tech is alwa...   Jun 4 2011, 05:21 PM
- - suoq   The problem isn't the ware. The problem is the...   Jun 4 2011, 05:37 PM
- - HunterHerne   The problem is that there aren't enough effect...   Jun 4 2011, 05:51 PM
- - Irion   The problem is not magic, it is the mage. It star...   Jun 4 2011, 06:05 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   You do realize that the penalty for lost essence o...   Jun 4 2011, 06:32 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 4 2011, 02:32 PM...   Jun 4 2011, 07:38 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 04...   Jun 4 2011, 07:58 PM
- - HunterHerne   Another thing that I'm reminded of, healing aw...   Jun 4 2011, 06:50 PM
- - Irion   @Dakka Dakka QUOTE This largely depends on what sp...   Jun 4 2011, 08:05 PM
- - KCKitsune   One way to limit overcasting is to limit to 1.5 ti...   Jun 4 2011, 08:20 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Part of me wants to say that is too restrictive, b...   Jun 4 2011, 08:26 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 11...   Jun 4 2011, 09:08 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 01...   Jun 4 2011, 09:17 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 4 2011, 05...   Jun 4 2011, 10:15 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE We'd rather raise something else up to m...   Jun 4 2011, 08:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Obviously, you should do what's best at your s...   Jun 4 2011, 09:23 PM
- - Faelan   Personally I love Magic and have no problem with i...   Jun 4 2011, 10:08 PM
- - Stahlseele   Simple change: All Spells have to overcome object ...   Jun 5 2011, 12:50 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   And everyone in the world gets a datajack and is i...   Jun 5 2011, 12:52 AM
- - Halflife   You could scale the object resistance threshold ba...   Jun 5 2011, 01:09 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I don't know how that makes low magic mages le...   Jun 5 2011, 01:54 AM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 09...   Jun 5 2011, 02:02 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I don't know where you get that killing a chic...   Jun 5 2011, 02:15 AM
- - HunterHerne   Well, it's not a permanent background count. ...   Jun 5 2011, 02:29 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Not in any of my books. I could perhaps see perfo...   Jun 5 2011, 03:03 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   I find it amusing that a thread about how to impro...   Jun 5 2011, 04:51 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Cyberware giving a defense against magic would be ...   Jun 5 2011, 04:56 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Maybe, i'm not sure. I don't think cyber...   Jun 5 2011, 05:00 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 5 2011, 12:00...   Jun 5 2011, 01:32 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's the story of SR4. Everything that was c...   Jun 5 2011, 05:14 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Well in the case of radar and ultrasound it makes ...   Jun 5 2011, 05:21 AM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Hmm, I see what you mean. Kind of like how smart ...   Jun 5 2011, 05:22 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   I do think there should be more little gadgets and...   Jun 5 2011, 09:40 AM
- - Irion   QUOTE Cyberware giving a defense against magic wou...   Jun 5 2011, 11:06 AM
- - Stahlseele   Well, one could go into encryption. On second thou...   Jun 5 2011, 01:45 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I wasn't aware that you could wear multiple tr...   Jun 5 2011, 01:48 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 10...   Jun 5 2011, 02:09 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jun 5 2011, 08:09 AM...   Jun 5 2011, 02:13 PM
||- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 11...   Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 08...   Jun 5 2011, 02:23 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:23 AM) A ski...   Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 09...   Jun 5 2011, 02:33 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:33 AM) This ...   Jun 5 2011, 02:36 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 09...   Jun 5 2011, 02:39 PM
|- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 10:39 AM) Congr...   Jun 5 2011, 02:40 PM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 09...   Jun 5 2011, 02:48 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:48 AM) The i...   Jun 5 2011, 02:50 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:39 AM) Congr...   Jun 5 2011, 02:42 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I haven't really seen anything that says they ...   Jun 5 2011, 02:14 PM
- - Stahlseele   What the hell is a voilet wand?   Jun 5 2011, 02:25 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 09:25 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:29 AM) A mod...   Jun 5 2011, 02:30 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   I'm fairly sure that if two people using skinl...   Jun 5 2011, 02:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If you want to limit VR to implants and wires, you...   Jun 5 2011, 02:41 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Skinlinks have their own functional profile. Devic...   Jun 5 2011, 02:55 PM
- - suoq   You can have an implant that's expensive, hard...   Jun 5 2011, 03:01 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's an implant vs. device issue, not a skin...   Jun 5 2011, 03:08 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:08 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:15 PM
||- - Ghost_in_the_System   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 11:15 AM) Yes. ...   Jun 5 2011, 03:19 PM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 09...   Jun 5 2011, 03:28 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:08 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Don't pout and spout sarcasm, just give me a c...   Jun 5 2011, 03:29 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 10:29 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:34 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:29 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 10...   Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 12:42 PM) Anyon...   Jun 5 2011, 03:58 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 05:42 PM) Anyon...   Jun 5 2011, 05:00 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 5 2011, 02:00 PM...   Jun 5 2011, 05:04 PM
- - CanRay   The advantage of cables is that they can be used a...   Jun 5 2011, 03:33 PM
- - Faelan   A skinlinked device can always be taken away, an i...   Jun 5 2011, 03:34 PM
- - BnF95   Skinlink transmits via the electrical energy of th...   Jun 5 2011, 03:36 PM
- - HunterHerne   You want to find a disadvantage to skinlinks? Alr...   Jun 5 2011, 03:41 PM
- - HunterHerne   You want to find a disadvantage to skinlinks? Alr...   Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jun 5 2011, 10:42 AM...   Jun 5 2011, 03:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Christ, suoq. Half of those aren't even equiva...   Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:42 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:50 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Implants (at least, things like commlinks or Math ...   Jun 5 2011, 03:48 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 10:48 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 03:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No, the point is you claimed 'ware could glitc...   Jun 5 2011, 03:53 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:53 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 04:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   What is wrong with you? I'm trying to be nice,...   Jun 5 2011, 04:16 PM
- - HunterHerne   I also said there would be an alert on the PAN. B...   Jun 5 2011, 04:25 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, I dig. I feel like my 'item stolen!...   Jun 5 2011, 04:26 PM
- - HunterHerne   Well, think about it like this, unless they specif...   Jun 5 2011, 04:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I just don't agree there. This is anti-theft. ...   Jun 5 2011, 04:37 PM
- - Ghost_in_the_System   Hunter has a really good point. Even Shadowrunner...   Jun 5 2011, 04:46 PM
- - Stahlseele   Furthermore, if you are running black trenchcoat, ...   Jun 5 2011, 04:49 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM)...   Jun 5 2011, 04:52 PM
- - Stahlseele   Much different Situation from you getting cought b...   Jun 5 2011, 05:16 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 02:16 PM)...   Jun 5 2011, 05:23 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   I doubt the conversation would take place that way...   Jun 5 2011, 05:29 PM
- - Stahlseele   Same goes for mages actually. Since there is NO W...   Jun 5 2011, 05:30 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 10:30 AM)...   Jun 5 2011, 05:31 PM
7 Pages V   1 2 3 > » 


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th April 2026 - 12:52 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.