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So i've been somewhat frustrated lately as the game becomes more and more hostile to ware and augmentation while at the same time continues to throw new toys at the magic using set. I look at additional spells and improvement to things like trodes but when I look at the ware catalog it's more or less the same as when i first started playing the game in second edition. As such i'm trying to compile a list of ware that needs a bit of a shot in the arm or improvement and then format a series of house rules to apply the same.
First thing: Drop the first aid/medicine modifier for lack of essence. I've worked on enough bloody people to know that having them bleed less would actually likely be helpful, or at the very least not hurt my chances any more. Datajack - The venerable datajack gets reworked withs ome of the same tech that allows trodes to work better taking advantage of it's direct link to a users brain to provide the full DNI 2.0 experience: Datajacks now allow users to take and additional free action and a complex or two simples in regards to the matrix or other online devices. Problems with implantation: We'd need to codify what can be done with these actions, if instructing your drone to fire is ok why wouldn't instrucitng your cyberarm to fire? (i'm actually pretty comfortable with this, but others might not be). Also some way for technomancers to do the same would have to be implented through echos or complex forms or something. Smartlink - An implanted smart link's better tap into your hand eye complex allows you to ignore the pentalties for shooting FROM cover. |
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LurkerOutThere Improving Cyberware Jun 4 2011, 03:55 PM
Halflife The Macro Echo allows Technomancers to take an add... Jun 4 2011, 04:10 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 4 2011, 08:55... Jun 4 2011, 04:15 PM
Halflife I do like the idea of applying the Essence Loss Pe... Jun 4 2011, 04:17 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Halflife @ Jun 4 2011, 09:17 AM) I... Jun 4 2011, 04:18 PM
Yerameyahu The datajack idea seems very complex and probably ... Jun 4 2011, 04:29 PM
HunterHerne However, that would only be for mana spells. Phys... Jun 4 2011, 04:33 PM
Ascalaphus Change the cost/benefit ratio so that tech is alwa... Jun 4 2011, 05:21 PM
suoq The problem isn't the ware. The problem is the... Jun 4 2011, 05:37 PM
HunterHerne The problem is that there aren't enough effect... Jun 4 2011, 05:51 PM
Irion The problem is not magic, it is the mage.
It star... Jun 4 2011, 06:05 PM
Dakka Dakka You do realize that the penalty for lost essence o... Jun 4 2011, 06:32 PM
Ghost_in_the_System QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 4 2011, 02:32 PM... Jun 4 2011, 07:38 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 04... Jun 4 2011, 07:58 PM
HunterHerne Another thing that I'm reminded of, healing aw... Jun 4 2011, 06:50 PM
Irion @Dakka Dakka
QUOTE This largely depends on what sp... Jun 4 2011, 08:05 PM
KCKitsune One way to limit overcasting is to limit to 1.5 ti... Jun 4 2011, 08:20 PM
Ghost_in_the_System Part of me wants to say that is too restrictive, b... Jun 4 2011, 08:26 PM
Mäx QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 11... Jun 4 2011, 09:08 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 01... Jun 4 2011, 09:17 PM
Ghost_in_the_System QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 4 2011, 05... Jun 4 2011, 10:15 PM
Irion QUOTE We'd rather raise something else up to m... Jun 4 2011, 08:51 PM
Yerameyahu Obviously, you should do what's best at your s... Jun 4 2011, 09:23 PM
Faelan Personally I love Magic and have no problem with i... Jun 4 2011, 10:08 PM
Stahlseele Simple change:
All Spells have to overcome object ... Jun 5 2011, 12:50 AM
Ghost_in_the_System And everyone in the world gets a datajack and is i... Jun 5 2011, 12:52 AM
Halflife You could scale the object resistance threshold ba... Jun 5 2011, 01:09 AM
Ghost_in_the_System I don't know how that makes low magic mages le... Jun 5 2011, 01:54 AM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 4 2011, 09... Jun 5 2011, 02:02 AM
Ghost_in_the_System I don't know where you get that killing a chic... Jun 5 2011, 02:15 AM
HunterHerne Well, it's not a permanent background count. ... Jun 5 2011, 02:29 AM
Ghost_in_the_System Not in any of my books. I could perhaps see perfo... Jun 5 2011, 03:03 AM
LurkerOutThere I find it amusing that a thread about how to impro... Jun 5 2011, 04:51 AM
Ghost_in_the_System Cyberware giving a defense against magic would be ... Jun 5 2011, 04:56 AM
LurkerOutThere Maybe, i'm not sure. I don't think cyber... Jun 5 2011, 05:00 AM
suoq QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 5 2011, 12:00... Jun 5 2011, 01:32 PM
Yerameyahu That's the story of SR4. Everything that was c... Jun 5 2011, 05:14 AM
LurkerOutThere Well in the case of radar and ultrasound it makes ... Jun 5 2011, 05:21 AM
Ghost_in_the_System Hmm, I see what you mean. Kind of like how smart ... Jun 5 2011, 05:22 AM
Badmoodguy88 I do think there should be more little gadgets and... Jun 5 2011, 09:40 AM
Irion QUOTE Cyberware giving a defense against magic wou... Jun 5 2011, 11:06 AM
Stahlseele Well, one could go into encryption.
On second thou... Jun 5 2011, 01:45 PM
Ghost_in_the_System I wasn't aware that you could wear multiple tr... Jun 5 2011, 01:48 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 10... Jun 5 2011, 02:09 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jun 5 2011, 08:09 AM... Jun 5 2011, 02:13 PM

HunterHerne QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 11... Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
suoq QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 08... Jun 5 2011, 02:23 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:23 AM) A ski... Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
suoq QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 09... Jun 5 2011, 02:33 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:33 AM) This ... Jun 5 2011, 02:36 PM
suoq QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 09... Jun 5 2011, 02:39 PM
Ghost_in_the_System QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 10:39 AM) Congr... Jun 5 2011, 02:40 PM

suoq QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 09... Jun 5 2011, 02:48 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:48 AM) The i... Jun 5 2011, 02:50 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:39 AM) Congr... Jun 5 2011, 02:42 PM
Ghost_in_the_System I haven't really seen anything that says they ... Jun 5 2011, 02:14 PM
Stahlseele What the hell is a voilet wand? Jun 5 2011, 02:25 PM
suoq QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 09:25 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 02:29 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 08:29 AM) A mod... Jun 5 2011, 02:30 PM
Ghost_in_the_System I'm fairly sure that if two people using skinl... Jun 5 2011, 02:39 PM
Yerameyahu If you want to limit VR to implants and wires, you... Jun 5 2011, 02:41 PM
Yerameyahu Skinlinks have their own functional profile. Devic... Jun 5 2011, 02:55 PM
suoq You can have an implant that's expensive, hard... Jun 5 2011, 03:01 PM
Yerameyahu That's an implant vs. device issue, not a skin... Jun 5 2011, 03:08 PM
suoq QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:08 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:15 PM

Ghost_in_the_System QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 11:15 AM) Yes. ... Jun 5 2011, 03:19 PM

suoq QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 5 2011, 09... Jun 5 2011, 03:28 PM
suoq QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:08 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:19 PM
Yerameyahu Don't pout and spout sarcasm, just give me a c... Jun 5 2011, 03:29 PM
suoq QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 10:29 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:34 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:29 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:35 PM
suoq QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2011, 10... Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 12:42 PM) Anyon... Jun 5 2011, 03:58 PM
Dakka Dakka QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 5 2011, 05:42 PM) Anyon... Jun 5 2011, 05:00 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 5 2011, 02:00 PM... Jun 5 2011, 05:04 PM
CanRay The advantage of cables is that they can be used a... Jun 5 2011, 03:33 PM
Faelan A skinlinked device can always be taken away, an i... Jun 5 2011, 03:34 PM
BnF95 Skinlink transmits via the electrical energy of th... Jun 5 2011, 03:36 PM
HunterHerne You want to find a disadvantage to skinlinks? Alr... Jun 5 2011, 03:41 PM
HunterHerne You want to find a disadvantage to skinlinks? Alr... Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
suoq QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jun 5 2011, 10:42 AM... Jun 5 2011, 03:45 PM
Yerameyahu Christ, suoq. Half of those aren't even equiva... Jun 5 2011, 03:42 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:42 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:50 PM
Yerameyahu Implants (at least, things like commlinks or Math ... Jun 5 2011, 03:48 PM
suoq QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 10:48 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 03:52 PM
Yerameyahu No, the point is you claimed 'ware could glitc... Jun 5 2011, 03:53 PM
suoq QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2011, 09:53 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 04:06 PM
Yerameyahu What is wrong with you? I'm trying to be nice,... Jun 5 2011, 04:16 PM
HunterHerne I also said there would be an alert on the PAN. B... Jun 5 2011, 04:25 PM
Yerameyahu Yeah, I dig. I feel like my 'item stolen!... Jun 5 2011, 04:26 PM
HunterHerne Well, think about it like this, unless they specif... Jun 5 2011, 04:29 PM
Yerameyahu I just don't agree there. This is anti-theft. ... Jun 5 2011, 04:37 PM
Ghost_in_the_System Hunter has a really good point. Even Shadowrunner... Jun 5 2011, 04:46 PM
Stahlseele Furthermore, if you are running black trenchcoat, ... Jun 5 2011, 04:49 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 01:49 PM)... Jun 5 2011, 04:52 PM
Stahlseele Much different Situation from you getting cought b... Jun 5 2011, 05:16 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 02:16 PM)... Jun 5 2011, 05:23 PM
Dakka Dakka I doubt the conversation would take place that way... Jun 5 2011, 05:29 PM
Stahlseele Same goes for mages actually.
Since there is NO W... Jun 5 2011, 05:30 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2011, 10:30 AM)... Jun 5 2011, 05:31 PM![]() ![]() |
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