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stu_pie
post Jul 14 2011, 05:50 AM
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One of my players asked me why would you pick to play as a human, and only reasons I could think of was

1)You fit in better, fewer people hate you
2)Save you a few BP (though not that true as with other Matetypes you seem to gain more attributes then their BP cost)

But honestly the 1st point doesnt really seem that great and the 2nd point also seems bit dumb as your likely to spend points on your attributes, so playing any of the other metatypes seems to make more sense.

I'm sure this has been raised before, but what could humans get to make them worth playing (some kind of bonus?)? Or least why do you guys think their worth playing?
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- stu_pie   Are Humans unpowered?   Jul 14 2011, 05:50 AM
- - MYST1C   QUOTE (stu_pie @ Jul 14 2011, 07:50 AM) I...   Jul 14 2011, 06:44 AM
- - Faraday   1. More edge. A lot of people underestimate edge, ...   Jul 14 2011, 06:49 AM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (Faraday @ Jul 14 2011, 07:49 AM) 1...   Jul 14 2011, 07:07 AM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE 1. More edge. A lot of people underestimate ...   Jul 14 2011, 07:04 AM
- - SpellBinder   What Faraday said, and IIRC humans are the most co...   Jul 14 2011, 07:05 AM
- - Aerospider   QUOTE (stu_pie @ Jul 14 2011, 06:50 AM) O...   Jul 14 2011, 07:06 AM
- - Medicineman   Errataed(German )Rules say that You pay Attribute ...   Jul 14 2011, 07:10 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 14 2011, 12:10 A...   Jul 14 2011, 07:40 AM
|- - Amazeroth   QUOTE (Faraday @ Jul 14 2011, 09:40 AM) F...   Jul 14 2011, 07:44 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Amazeroth @ Jul 14 2011, 12:44 AM)...   Jul 14 2011, 07:48 AM
|- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (Faraday @ Jul 14 2011, 07:48 AM) D...   Jul 14 2011, 08:16 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jul 14 2011, 01:16 AM)...   Jul 14 2011, 01:35 PM
- - CanRay   How about the ability to blend in? Still more hum...   Jul 14 2011, 07:47 AM
- - Ascalaphus   For hackers/riggers, mages not on a Charisma Tradi...   Jul 14 2011, 08:17 AM
- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   I agree basically humans mostly have edge going fo...   Jul 14 2011, 08:57 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   For me there is a huge fluff difference between an...   Jul 14 2011, 09:02 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 14 2011, 04:0...   Jul 14 2011, 03:33 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I think the game developers actually did a very go...   Jul 14 2011, 09:36 AM
|- - Thanee   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jul 14 2011, 11:36 AM...   Jul 14 2011, 10:32 AM
- - Thanee   If you consider bioelectrics, it could be said, th...   Jul 14 2011, 09:38 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Thanee @ Jul 14 2011, 10:38 AM) If...   Jul 14 2011, 09:39 AM
- - suoq   I suddenly have this incredible desire to play an ...   Jul 14 2011, 09:51 AM
- - Ascalaphus   I don't think a statistically representative d...   Jul 14 2011, 10:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Didn't we do this already? If they're und...   Jul 14 2011, 01:37 PM
- - Nebular   I don't see why it matters. Playing a game and...   Jul 14 2011, 01:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Nebular @ Jul 14 2011, 06:57 AM) I...   Jul 14 2011, 02:08 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Nebular @ Jul 14 2011, 09:57 PM) I...   Jul 14 2011, 02:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 14 2011, 07:15 AM) Ho...   Jul 14 2011, 02:44 PM
||- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 14 2011, 04...   Jul 14 2011, 02:58 PM
||- - Nebular   QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Jul 14 2011, 09...   Jul 14 2011, 03:06 PM
||- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   QUOTE (Nebular @ Jul 14 2011, 05:06 PM) I...   Jul 14 2011, 03:12 PM
|- - Lantzer   My personal take on the whole powergaming issue: ...   Jul 14 2011, 04:31 PM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Jul 14 2011, 10...   Jul 14 2011, 03:14 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 14 2011, 11:14 ...   Jul 14 2011, 03:54 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 14 2011, 11:14 ...   Jul 15 2011, 03:09 AM
|- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 14 2011, 05:14 ...   Jul 15 2011, 08:53 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Jul 15 2011, 09...   Jul 15 2011, 12:20 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Brainpiercing7.62mm @ Jul 15 2011, 04...   Jul 15 2011, 08:26 PM
- - jaellot   I'd say it probably has something to do with p...   Jul 14 2011, 03:25 PM
- - KarmaInferno   It's funny. My current Missions NPC speaks flu...   Jul 14 2011, 03:38 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 14 2011, 10:38 ...   Jul 14 2011, 07:17 PM
||- - Kyrel   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 14 2011, 09:17 PM) ...   Jul 15 2011, 04:04 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 14 2011, 10:38 ...   Jul 15 2011, 12:27 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Bad stats can be roleplayed too. And "good st...   Jul 14 2011, 04:02 PM
- - Aerospider   Optimising builds can be fun, but it's not com...   Jul 14 2011, 05:31 PM
|- - DamienKnight   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jul 14 2011, 12:31 PM...   Jul 14 2011, 06:09 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (DamienKnight @ Jul 14 2011, 12:09 ...   Jul 15 2011, 12:45 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 14 2011, 05:45 PM) Th...   Jul 15 2011, 01:38 AM
- - Irion   Well, there was a huge miss with gene ware. I real...   Jul 14 2011, 08:25 PM
- - UmaroVI   Humans should probably be -10 BP. Although I'm...   Jul 14 2011, 08:42 PM
- - Rubic   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 14 2011, 10:33 AM) My...   Jul 14 2011, 09:50 PM
- - stu_pie   Irion (and everyone else who had this point) I agr...   Jul 14 2011, 10:02 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (stu_pie @ Jul 14 2011, 05:02 PM) I...   Jul 14 2011, 10:16 PM
- - UmaroVI   Rubic: It's only 20 points for an Ork if you p...   Jul 14 2011, 10:26 PM
- - Rubic   second! We can haz exposition?   Jul 15 2011, 01:45 AM
- - suoq   I'm not sure the humans are underpowered. Pers...   Jul 15 2011, 02:27 AM
- - Glyph   I find that in build points, I will often be tempt...   Jul 15 2011, 03:09 AM
- - Teulisch   orks... their cap for logic and charisma is lowere...   Jul 15 2011, 03:15 AM
- - Glyph   Generally, lowering the maximum in an Attribute is...   Jul 15 2011, 03:44 AM
- - PoliteMan   I don't think it's really metahumans, just...   Jul 15 2011, 06:06 AM
- - Ascalaphus   For Orks and Trolls, I mentally insert "And d...   Jul 15 2011, 09:22 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jul 15 2011, 03:22 AM...   Jul 15 2011, 11:16 AM
||- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 15 2011, 12:16 PM) -4 d...   Jul 15 2011, 11:53 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jul 15 2011, 10:22 AM...   Jul 15 2011, 11:56 AM
- - Snow_Fox   Humans aren't 'broken' so long as you...   Jul 15 2011, 11:50 AM
- - Ascalaphus   The exact amount of Racism Modifier isn't real...   Jul 15 2011, 12:01 PM
- - suoq   My gut feeling is that the introduction of that mu...   Jul 15 2011, 12:06 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 15 2011, 01:06 PM) That...   Jul 15 2011, 12:19 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jul 15 2011, 06:19 AM...   Jul 15 2011, 02:33 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 15 2011, 10:33 AM) The ...   Jul 15 2011, 02:43 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Rubic @ Jul 15 2011, 09:43 AM) WAT...   Jul 15 2011, 04:13 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 15 2011, 11:13 AM) We...   Jul 15 2011, 08:43 PM
- - Snow_Fox   It only works if you're 'role' playing...   Jul 15 2011, 12:08 PM
- - KCKitsune   You know there is one thing that might a bit of a ...   Jul 15 2011, 01:51 PM
|- - stu_pie   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 15 2011, 02:51 PM)...   Jul 15 2011, 06:27 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (stu_pie @ Jul 15 2011, 09:27 PM) I...   Jul 15 2011, 08:25 PM
|- - Miri   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 15 2011, 02:25 PM) I wou...   Jul 15 2011, 08:48 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Miri @ Jul 15 2011, 11:48 PM) Are ...   Jul 15 2011, 10:26 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 15 2011, 05:26 PM) Well ...   Jul 15 2011, 10:33 PM
- - Apathy   I think that part of the issue is that not all att...   Jul 15 2011, 09:25 PM
|- - stu_pie   QUOTE (Apathy @ Jul 15 2011, 10:25 PM) I ...   Jul 15 2011, 09:46 PM
- - Irion   Well, they should be, anyway. (Thats why a lot of ...   Jul 15 2011, 09:32 PM
- - pbangarth   The most useful Attributes are the ones the GM mak...   Jul 15 2011, 09:50 PM
- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Miri @ Jul 15 2011, 04:48 PM) Are ...   Jul 15 2011, 10:42 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jul 15 2011, 06:42 P...   Jul 16 2011, 01:10 AM
||- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Rubic @ Jul 15 2011, 09:10 PM) I h...   Jul 16 2011, 01:20 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jul 15 2011, 05:42 P...   Jul 16 2011, 04:09 AM
- - PoliteMan   One of the things that annoys me about the "O...   Jul 16 2011, 02:18 AM
- - LostProxy   Technomancer is 5 BP isn't it? Would fit just ...   Jul 16 2011, 04:16 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Huh. I suppose so. So would Adept. Maybe just the...   Jul 16 2011, 04:25 AM
- - LostProxy   I'm a little dubious with Type O. Delta is nic...   Jul 16 2011, 05:06 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Nothing wrong with out-of-shape Orks. Surely that...   Jul 16 2011, 05:34 AM
- - Glyph   I agree. It could be useful for a highly optimize...   Jul 16 2011, 05:35 AM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 16 2011, 02:35 AM) I a...   Jul 16 2011, 11:34 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Not at all, at least for spell casting, it's s...   Jul 16 2011, 12:05 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 16 2011, 09:0...   Jul 16 2011, 01:05 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   I will double check but I'm pretty sure your u...   Jul 16 2011, 01:38 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 16 2011, 10:3...   Jul 16 2011, 01:41 PM
- - Irion   You need line of sight and you have to "see...   Jul 16 2011, 01:56 PM
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