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post Aug 17 2011, 04:38 PM
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I just need to confirm some rules that I learned about. They have to do with Magic. I'll make a seperate area for my Matrix questions.

1.) When casting a spell, you choose the Force that you'd like to cast it at, limited to your Magic rating for not overcasting. When you do that, what does this ACTUALLY do to the spell. I thought it was the cap for how many net hits you could have on the test, as well as what the damage is that you're doing (for direct damage spells) or healing (the amount you heal). However, I heard that the Heal spell actually just heals you, and the drain is determined by how severe the wound is that you're healing. Could someone clarify?

2.) We were fighting spirits at our last game, and they were Earth spirits. I did not know you had to do double the amount of force in damage to a spirit before you can even harm it. In that vein, do you need ADPS or Anti-Vehicular rounds against a spirit? Was this something that only Earth spirits have? Where in the book does this list this, because I never see anything under a spirit's powers or skills that says their armor is always double their force and is considered hardened armor.

3.) An extended test imposes a -1 penalty on you for each interval you roll? Wha? Where was THIS in the books? I thought you could keep going, so long as you had the time.

I'm not a new player. I've been playing for a long time. But these are not complex rulings. These seem pretty simple and should have been caught a long time ago. So how did I miss these obvious problems?
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- CrystalBlue   Rules I didn't know existed! :O   Aug 17 2011, 04:38 PM
- - squee_nabob   1) I’m not a magical expert, but if I understand y...   Aug 17 2011, 05:10 PM
- - tete   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 17 2011, 04:38 P...   Aug 17 2011, 05:10 PM
- - Dahrken   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 17 2011, 06:38 P...   Aug 17 2011, 05:22 PM
|- - DamienKnight   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Aug 17 2011, 12:22 PM) T...   Aug 19 2011, 03:39 PM
- - Sephiroth   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 17 2011, 12:38 P...   Aug 17 2011, 05:24 PM
- - CrystalBlue   So, say I have someone that has 7 boxes of damage ...   Aug 17 2011, 05:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 17 2011, 10:57 A...   Aug 17 2011, 06:10 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (squee_nabob @ Aug 17 2011, 01:10 P...   Aug 17 2011, 07:47 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 17 2011, 12:57 P...   Aug 17 2011, 06:19 PM
|- - Bodak   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 18 2011, 03:57 A...   Aug 18 2011, 01:19 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Bodak @ Aug 17 2011, 09:19 PM) I t...   Aug 18 2011, 01:23 AM
- - UmaroVI   There's a handful of other force-based effects...   Aug 17 2011, 06:00 PM
- - Bigity   Yes, every net hit after the target's resistan...   Aug 17 2011, 06:06 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 17 2011, 01:06 PM) Ye...   Aug 17 2011, 06:52 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Aug 17 2011, 08:52 PM) Th...   Aug 17 2011, 07:06 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Aug 17 2011, 01:52 PM) Th...   Aug 17 2011, 07:31 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 17 2011, 09:31 PM) It...   Aug 17 2011, 07:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 17 2011, 01:31 PM) It...   Aug 17 2011, 08:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Besides, your doors probably aren't metal. The...   Aug 17 2011, 06:32 PM
- - hobgoblin   The heal spell is weird in that it uses "dama...   Aug 17 2011, 06:44 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Because they're already ungodly strong. It...   Aug 17 2011, 06:58 PM
- - Bigity   Ah I wasn't aware SR4A had an updated PDF than...   Aug 17 2011, 07:45 PM
- - Seerow   QUOTE Sorry to do this, but I've got a mage th...   Aug 17 2011, 07:46 PM
- - hobgoblin   That is a interesting house rule.   Aug 17 2011, 07:48 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Aug 17 2011, 03:48 PM)...   Aug 17 2011, 07:53 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The lowered Drain already accounts for that. If it...   Aug 17 2011, 08:03 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 17 2011, 04:03 PM...   Aug 17 2011, 08:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 17 2011, 02:16 PM) ...   Aug 17 2011, 08:44 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 17 2011, 04...   Aug 17 2011, 09:11 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 17 2011, 03:11 PM) ...   Aug 17 2011, 09:47 PM
||- - Korwin   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 17 2011, 09...   Aug 18 2011, 06:52 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Korwin @ Aug 17 2011, 11:52 PM) Is...   Aug 18 2011, 01:15 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 09...   Aug 18 2011, 02:16 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 18 2011, 07:16 AM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 02:21 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 10...   Aug 18 2011, 02:24 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 18 2011, 07:24 AM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 02:37 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 10...   Aug 18 2011, 02:40 PM
|- - Korwin   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 17 2011, 08...   Aug 18 2011, 01:46 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Korwin @ Aug 18 2011, 06:46 AM) I’...   Aug 18 2011, 02:07 PM
- - Draco18s   This is true, but my point is, with such weird def...   Aug 17 2011, 11:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 17 2011, 05:09 PM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 01:59 AM
- - Seerow   QUOTE I thought that rule was only ever suggested ...   Aug 18 2011, 01:24 AM
|- - Bodak   QUOTE (Seerow @ Aug 18 2011, 11:24 AM) I ...   Aug 18 2011, 05:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   My point is that the way to fix problems with the ...   Aug 18 2011, 01:39 AM
- - CrystalBlue   Well, seeing as it's an optional rule, we...   Aug 18 2011, 11:57 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 18 2011, 04:57 A...   Aug 18 2011, 01:18 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 18 2011, 01:57 P...   Aug 18 2011, 01:57 PM
- - Machiavelli   Just to clear something out: You cannot cast a for...   Aug 18 2011, 12:57 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Aug 18 2011, 07:57 A...   Aug 18 2011, 01:17 PM
- - CrystalBlue   My problem isn't her getting a good roll. It...   Aug 18 2011, 06:01 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 18 2011, 02:01 P...   Aug 18 2011, 06:06 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 18 2011, 12:06 PM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 06:15 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 02...   Aug 18 2011, 07:01 PM
- - Tanegar   You let him take the initiation discounts in charg...   Aug 18 2011, 06:05 PM
- - CrystalBlue   It was a character he'd already made once befo...   Aug 18 2011, 06:42 PM
- - Tanegar   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Aug 18 2011, 01:42 P...   Aug 18 2011, 07:02 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 18 2011, 03:02 PM) N...   Aug 18 2011, 07:09 PM
|- - DMiller   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 19 2011, 04:09 AM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 09:18 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Personally i'm fine with the sneaky magician t...   Aug 19 2011, 05:32 AM
- - TheOOB   I always found the perception rules for magic to w...   Aug 19 2011, 06:44 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Aug 18 2011, 11:44 PM) I ...   Aug 19 2011, 12:50 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Aug 19 2011, 02:44 AM) I ...   Aug 19 2011, 04:48 PM
- - Irion   Half initation grade at best. Consider that there ...   Aug 19 2011, 01:15 PM
- - Aaron   If you're concerned that direct combat spells ...   Aug 19 2011, 01:17 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Aaron @ Aug 19 2011, 09:17 AM) If ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:07 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 19 2011, 07:07 AM) ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:08 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 19 2011, 10...   Aug 19 2011, 02:10 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 19 2011, 07:10 AM) ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:12 PM
||- - Seerow   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 19 2011, 03...   Aug 19 2011, 02:14 PM
|- - Aaron   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 19 2011, 09:07 AM) ...   Aug 22 2011, 08:22 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Aaron @ Aug 22 2011, 04:22 PM) Are...   Aug 22 2011, 08:26 PM
- - hobgoblin   In a way that could make sense, as with direct spe...   Aug 19 2011, 01:27 PM
- - Draco18s   So it's ok to take away the base damage from t...   Aug 19 2011, 02:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 19 2011, 07:16 AM) ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:19 PM
- - CrystalBlue   I hope I didn't just create an argument by my ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:34 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The mage has plenty of other powers directly relat...   Aug 19 2011, 02:35 PM
- - UmaroVI   There seems to be some... confusion about how the ...   Aug 19 2011, 02:38 PM
- - hobgoblin   There is also the issue that guns are detectable b...   Aug 19 2011, 02:49 PM
- - UmaroVI   Background count.   Aug 19 2011, 02:51 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 19 2011, 07:51 AM) B...   Aug 19 2011, 03:03 PM
- - Dahrken   I did not say that other spiriits did not have it,...   Aug 19 2011, 04:26 PM


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