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AppliedCheese
post Aug 18 2011, 09:05 AM
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So, every now and again the headlines come back on about drone strikes in Pakistan. Which got me to thinking:

We have precision strike capable drone aircraft in present day, no 6th world involved. They are relatively cheap according to wiki: $4.5M for a predator. They can can hang on station for 30+ hours. They fly high enough and far enough away to be unspottable by the naked eye and unheard. They already have cameras capable of resolution that allow the decision makers to see if people are carrying guns (though not too much detail, or else the misdrops on a border patrol wouldn't have happened). They carry missiles that can engage from a dozen kilometers or more , and some models carry GPS directed bombs. In short, a pretty ideal and comparatively cheap weapon for conducting precision strikes against small groups of terrorists or other people who don't have an integrated air force and air defense network.

People, coincidentally, a lot like shadowrunners. I'm thinking this would be a valuable tool in the mega's arsenal, for either those times when they've said "screw collateral damage" or can lure the runners away from where a strike would have many negative consequences. Depending on the level of precision (according to wiki, current models can put a hellfire through a window if given the conditions, and will reliably hit vehicles), there are probably some urban areas acceptable to. Will anyone ask too many questions if there's an explosion in the deep barrens?

Of course, not so much for the runners, because someone is going to wonder what the drone is doing in their airspace, and it needs a satellite band for long range ops...

So, for a lot of these double crosses, deliberate team take outs, basically those times when you need runners dead, and would usually send an HTR, or try to have an on site ambush in the woods or what not...send a few missiles and bombs form the impunity of 50,000 feet. Even if they cost 15-30k nuyen a piece, getting even one HTR guy thwacked costs a lot more.

So, how do you simulate this? I think the reaosnable design goal should be 50-75% of the team on site killed, with follow on strikes finishing the survivors.
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- AppliedCheese   Simulating High Altitude Drone Strikes   Aug 18 2011, 09:05 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Personally i don't, it's a game, not real ...   Aug 18 2011, 09:23 AM
- - Elfenlied   Thor Shots. Cheap (compared to the cost of a milit...   Aug 18 2011, 10:05 AM
- - UmaroVI   This seems like a great deal of thought and effort...   Aug 18 2011, 12:42 PM
|- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 18 2011, 12:42 PM) T...   Aug 18 2011, 12:50 PM
- - Kirk   Take a tower, give it camo and sig mask 3, take it...   Aug 18 2011, 01:03 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Kirk @ Aug 18 2011, 06:03 AM) Take...   Aug 18 2011, 01:23 PM
- - Elfenlied   Personally, I prefer a cheaper approach. Even thou...   Aug 18 2011, 01:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Aug 18 2011, 06:37 AM)...   Aug 18 2011, 01:44 PM
||- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 01...   Aug 18 2011, 02:03 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Aug 18 2011, 07:03 AM)...   Aug 18 2011, 02:18 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Aug 18 2011, 07:37 AM)...   Aug 18 2011, 02:16 PM
|- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (suoq @ Aug 18 2011, 02:16 PM) What...   Aug 18 2011, 02:27 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Megas aren't usually in the business of huntin...   Aug 18 2011, 01:51 PM
- - UmaroVI   You can assassinate people with a sports rifle... ...   Aug 18 2011, 02:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 18 2011, 07:37 AM) Y...   Aug 18 2011, 03:14 PM
- - suoq   Sometimes the goal isn't killing someone. Some...   Aug 18 2011, 02:40 PM
- - Elfenlied   If I prepare my rifle rounds as vessels, and posse...   Aug 18 2011, 02:42 PM
- - CanRay   Nazi Super-Science Laughs At Your Drones Airdrops....   Aug 18 2011, 03:20 PM
- - onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk   See as a PC, I've done just about all of these...   Aug 18 2011, 03:46 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk @ Aug 18 201...   Aug 18 2011, 04:51 PM
- - AppliedCheese   Its not intended to hunt down random runners. Its ...   Aug 18 2011, 03:50 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (AppliedCheese @ Aug 18 2011, 04:50...   Aug 18 2011, 04:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 18 2011, 10:42 AM...   Aug 18 2011, 05:03 PM
- - CanRay   Or you can drop a bug on them. ... I couldn...   Aug 18 2011, 04:12 PM
- - Neurosis   QUOTE So, how do you simulate this? I think the re...   Aug 18 2011, 04:23 PM
- - CanRay   Also really hard to do ballistics on a laser burn.   Aug 18 2011, 04:54 PM
|- - Miri   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 18 2011, 10:54 AM) Al...   Aug 18 2011, 04:59 PM
- - AppliedCheese   I tend to think of it as something that would not ...   Aug 18 2011, 05:20 PM
- - Irion   As with everything it depends on how you plan it. ...   Aug 18 2011, 05:27 PM
- - suoq   I'm fascinated by the thought that somewhere t...   Aug 18 2011, 05:40 PM
- - Miri   This is where the GM needs to learn how to say.. ...   Aug 18 2011, 05:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Miri @ Aug 18 2011, 10:54 AM) This...   Aug 18 2011, 05:57 PM
|- - Miri   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 11...   Aug 18 2011, 06:00 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Miri @ Aug 18 2011, 12:00 PM) So h...   Aug 18 2011, 06:09 PM
||- - Miri   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 12...   Aug 18 2011, 06:11 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Miri @ Aug 18 2011, 12:11 PM) Righ...   Aug 18 2011, 06:14 PM
|- - AppliedCheese   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 05...   Aug 18 2011, 06:22 PM
- - PeteThe1   I'm surprised that with all the talk of missle...   Aug 18 2011, 06:33 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (PeteThe1 @ Aug 18 2011, 11:33 AM) ...   Aug 18 2011, 06:54 PM
- - Miri   And if you add a SunCell on that LTA, thats 5 days...   Aug 18 2011, 06:57 PM
- - AppliedCheese   Lighter than air - SR reflects reality! Google...   Aug 18 2011, 06:58 PM


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