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GM Lich
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So anyways going to run shadow run again its been a while since I've ran it. The plan at least so far is just to make it an alternative campaign to our regular GURPS: Mass Effect game. One thing we had problems with our previous shadowrun campaign was min maxing. We basically had characters who could do well in whatever field of specialization they were suppose to do. For example the face was rolling 20+ dice. This was in a 300 bp campaign too. It was silly. Basically all the runners could throw a bunch of dice around in combat or in their area of specialization but absolutely sucked when it came to do anything outside their area of specialization. Fast forward a bit that group eventually moved on to other systems and we drifted apart. So now I have a bunch of newbies to shadowrun (and rpgs in general) and one veteran (He played in the min max group.)
So I've been trying to avoid the min maxing nightmare. So I've implemented the following houserules:
core book only SRA, to avoid power creep, all other books are subject to gm's approval depending on what advantages/equipment they are taking
To encourage people to use skills, and be able to be prepare in a number of rather then attribute maxing, they now cost 1 point less per rating to buy in BP
To encourage people not to dump CHA (Besides the face), going to use free contacts = CHA attribute X 2
To prevent over equipment dependency, the total hits limited to skill's rating x2

Anyways just to keep it simple I will run Shadowrun Missions Season 2 (Denver). Right now my worry is the veteran, and people asking to use certain books. Any advice to avoid what was happening in the other group. Any advice running shadowrun missions denver, houserules, and advice would be nice. The two archetypes that seem both really good is that have potential to abuse is the Mage (summoning spirits) and Technomancer (Or should I say dronomancer).
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- GM Lich   Help me keep my campiagn undercontrol!   Sep 9 2011, 07:38 PM
- - suoq   I'm not arguing with you that it's a probl...   Sep 9 2011, 07:59 PM
- - Tanegar   It seems to me that power creep isn't your pro...   Sep 9 2011, 08:06 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Sep 9 2011, 05:06 PM) It...   Sep 9 2011, 08:18 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Sep 10 2011, 12:06 AM) I...   Sep 9 2011, 09:13 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Fatum @ Sep 9 2011, 05:13 PM) This...   Sep 9 2011, 09:18 PM
- - Summerstorm   Just one rule for me: 1. Make a character which c...   Sep 9 2011, 08:27 PM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Sep 9 2011, 09:27 PM...   Sep 9 2011, 09:30 PM
|- - Modular Man   QUOTE (Traul @ Sep 9 2011, 11:30 PM) The ...   Sep 10 2011, 06:04 AM
- - UmaroVI   It sounds like you want less specialized and more ...   Sep 9 2011, 08:35 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Sep 9 2011, 03:35 PM) It...   Sep 9 2011, 09:22 PM
- - AppliedCheese   Well, if you want to see them down scale in a hurr...   Sep 9 2011, 09:23 PM
- - Mardrax   You can of course just limit dice pools. Say no on...   Sep 9 2011, 09:59 PM
- - Tanegar   Hard caps on dice pools feel arbitrarily restricti...   Sep 9 2011, 10:06 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Sep 9 2011, 02:06 PM) Ha...   Sep 10 2011, 11:39 AM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 10 2011, 07:39 AM) Err....   Sep 11 2011, 01:57 AM
- - Glyph   Those house rules don't seem too restrictive, ...   Sep 10 2011, 04:20 AM
- - kzt   Skills are seriously overpriced in SR. Nobody sho...   Sep 10 2011, 08:56 AM
|- - Seriously Mike   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 10 2011, 10:56 AM) And i...   Sep 10 2011, 11:26 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 10 2011, 03:56 AM) ...   Sep 10 2011, 02:24 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 10 2011, 01:56 AM) Skill...   Sep 10 2011, 03:03 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Talk to your players. Talk to the old min/maxer in...   Sep 10 2011, 09:13 AM
- - Irion   QUOTE ("UmaroVI")It sounds like you want...   Sep 10 2011, 02:24 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Irion @ Sep 10 2011, 07:24 AM) ...   Sep 10 2011, 05:13 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 10 2011, 09:13 AM) Actu...   Sep 10 2011, 06:49 PM
||- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 10 2011, 02:49 PM) On ...   Sep 10 2011, 07:02 PM
||- - Glyph   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Sep 10 2011, 12:02 P...   Sep 10 2011, 08:32 PM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 10 2011, 02:32 PM) Any...   Sep 10 2011, 08:54 PM
||- - Paul   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 10 2011, 04:32 PM) Any...   Sep 11 2011, 01:54 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 10 2011, 10:13 AM) Actu...   Sep 10 2011, 08:02 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I think on the one hand, the expectations of what ...   Sep 10 2011, 03:13 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 10 2011, 08:13 AM...   Sep 10 2011, 03:14 PM
- - Traul   If you players overspecialize, it is also your rol...   Sep 10 2011, 03:30 PM
- - Emeraldknite   I have a player that likes to min/max like that. Y...   Sep 10 2011, 04:00 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Emeraldknite @ Sep 10 2011, 12:00 ...   Sep 10 2011, 05:33 PM
- - EpicSpire   the way i go about this in my games is as follows:...   Sep 10 2011, 05:23 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE The absolute dicepool max is an optional rul...   Sep 10 2011, 06:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 10 2011, 12:09 PM) I...   Sep 10 2011, 06:13 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 10 2011, 02:09 PM) I...   Sep 10 2011, 06:28 PM
- - Irion   @Glyph Yes, you may need to tweak it bit. Reintrod...   Sep 10 2011, 07:48 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Irion @ Sep 10 2011, 12:48 PM) Let...   Sep 10 2011, 08:06 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Irion @ Sep 10 2011, 03:48 PM) @Hu...   Sep 10 2011, 08:43 PM
- - UmaroVI   The reason karmagen encourages more balanced chara...   Sep 10 2011, 08:34 PM
- - Glyph   Characters have weaknesses because character creat...   Sep 10 2011, 09:18 PM
- - Cain   No character can be great at everything. So, in r...   Sep 10 2011, 10:21 PM
- - GM Lich   Thanks for all who replied! So it seems accord...   Sep 11 2011, 12:08 AM
- - Critias   Communication > Character Creation Rules. When...   Sep 11 2011, 12:13 AM
- - CanRay   When all else fails, always remember: Squirt Bott...   Sep 11 2011, 12:16 AM
- - Fatum   Okay, let's start from the very beginning. A s...   Sep 11 2011, 02:33 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Fatum @ Sep 10 2011, 08:33 PM) by ...   Sep 11 2011, 03:44 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 11 2011, 07:44 AM) In m...   Sep 11 2011, 11:14 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 10 2011, 08:44 PM) In m...   Sep 11 2011, 02:55 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE The problem I have with a global dice-pool c...   Sep 11 2011, 07:10 AM
- - toturi   Personally if I were to house rule, I'd create...   Sep 11 2011, 07:30 AM
- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 11 2011, 03:30 AM) Pe...   Sep 11 2011, 11:19 AM


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