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kevyn668
post Apr 2 2004, 03:20 AM
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The core rules state that most rifles and most SMGs can have one top mount, one bottom mount and one barrel mount. Makes sense, space wise. So if we go strictly by the core rules, would it be correct to say that if a weapon already has a barrel mount (say, gas vent) then that weapon could not mount an additional barrel mount (say, a suppressor)?

It seems that it is implied by the HK227 and the HK227-S (and the Colt Cobra, etc...) that there is only one slot.

Now I'm of the opinion that if (in the above example) the barrel mount "slot" is full, that's that. Unfortunately I seem to be in the minority. The only time I ignore my own rule is the Ingram M20t Smartgun. If I had my way, that thing would not come with the GV. Period. What the hell is gas vent anyway??

And about suppressors: if you have a suppressor, shouldn't that also do some double duty as a gas vent or muzzel brake or whatever?

Well I'm at it, pistols can't take barrel mounts, right? So how come everyone seems to have GV on his/her Pred?

Do we assume that you can have a Low Light and Thermo mag scope all in one and you could switch between the two with a button? Techology advancing to the point where you can place both systems in one's eyes and mental toggle between the two. Would you have a cost multiplier for this or just add up the prices?


Is the Under Barrel Weight actually look more like the extended barrels we see in films such as "Underworld"?

BTW, I think Rayguns Picanty (sp?) Railmounts are brilliant.


The reason I'm going off about all this is that I often see (and I am guilty of it all too often as well) a weapon that has the GV and suppressor.

I guess the counter arguement ( and what I use to rationalize to myself) is that gas vent is actually done "to the barrel" whereas a suppressor is atatched to "the end of the barrel."

Thoughts?
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- kevyn668   Firearms and after market add ons.   Apr 2 2004, 03:20 AM
- - Modesitt   QUOTE Now I'm of the opinion that if (in the a...   Apr 2 2004, 03:27 AM
- - kevyn668   You've never seen a Smartgun w/ a suppressor? ...   Apr 2 2004, 03:31 AM
- - Modesitt   No, I haven't ever seen someone try to mount a...   Apr 2 2004, 03:34 AM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE (Modesitt) No, I haven't ever seen someo...   Apr 2 2004, 03:42 AM
- - Modesitt   QUOTE Really? There's been at least two charac...   Apr 2 2004, 03:50 AM
- - kevyn668   I don't want to turn this into a "Can to-...   Apr 2 2004, 03:59 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE You've never seen a Smartgun w/ a suppre...   Apr 2 2004, 04:13 AM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE You've never seen a Sm...   Apr 2 2004, 04:16 AM
- - CardboardArmor   QUOTE (kevyn668) I guess the counter arguement ( a...   Apr 2 2004, 04:18 AM
- - mfb   yeah. check the SSC. (not being facetious, that re...   Apr 2 2004, 04:32 AM
- - kevyn668   So are you saying that its a barrel extension or a...   Apr 2 2004, 04:37 AM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE Gas vents vent the fired gasses along with t...   Apr 2 2004, 04:37 AM
- - BitBasher   Sure, I got pics From this site, about halfway d...   Apr 2 2004, 04:38 AM
- - kevyn668   Are there any game advantages to such a device?   Apr 2 2004, 04:42 AM
- - mfb   hm. what's pictured there looks like a 2-stage...   Apr 2 2004, 04:49 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Kevyn668)The core rules state that most rif...   Apr 2 2004, 05:28 AM
- - sidartha   You Sir are the first person I've meet that kn...   Apr 2 2004, 07:41 AM
- - TheScamp   <voiceclass=mulletheadedjinglesinger> ...   Apr 2 2004, 10:25 AM
- - kevyn668   Thanks all!   Apr 2 2004, 02:15 PM
- - Siege   Check out the link here. Look at the tac-light/la...   Apr 3 2004, 02:15 PM
- - Stumps   QUOTE (sidartha)You Sir are the first person I...   Apr 3 2004, 04:29 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (kevyn668) I don't want to turn this int...   Apr 3 2004, 07:14 PM
- - Zazen   I'm surprised no one has yet linked to that ph...   Apr 3 2004, 07:28 PM
- - Voorhees   I think of guns with underbarrel weights as lookin...   Apr 3 2004, 08:25 PM
- - CardboardArmor   Like a staple gun, obviously. But in all seriousn...   Apr 3 2004, 08:40 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   All pictures I've ever seen of the Ares Predat...   Apr 3 2004, 11:18 PM
- - Raygun   The SR2 BBB has an illustration that is an exact c...   Apr 4 2004, 01:07 AM
- - Shadow   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) There is no picture of...   Apr 4 2004, 02:09 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Page 18 of the Street Samurai Catalog (the one wit...   Apr 4 2004, 02:17 AM
- - A Clockwork Lime   According to canon (SR3 p. 276, "Pistols...   Apr 4 2004, 02:32 AM
- - kevyn668   I hear ya on the Canon Rules bit, but I throw the ...   Apr 4 2004, 02:41 AM
- - gknoy   On the predator ... the Weapons Specialist glossy ...   Apr 4 2004, 02:53 AM
- - Voran   In the SR3 basic rulebook, (may be an older versio...   Apr 4 2004, 03:35 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Base manhunter: 425 with a laser sight; SI 1 Base ...   Apr 4 2004, 03:41 AM
- - tjn   I feel the appeal of the Ares Predator comes from ...   Apr 4 2004, 06:10 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Voran)In the SR3 basic rulebook, (may be an...   Apr 4 2004, 11:10 PM
- - Voran   I'm curious, it doesn't indicate so in the...   Apr 5 2004, 02:20 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Sigh, I was hoping to direct you to Raygun's s...   Apr 5 2004, 03:01 AM
- - Raygun   I meant to to link to that page, darn it... Suppre...   Apr 5 2004, 03:09 AM
- - Voran   Yknow what I find kinda wierd (in my old age...heh...   Apr 5 2004, 07:27 AM
- - Stumps   Voran, that's bound to give you a headache in ...   Apr 5 2004, 08:06 AM
- - Voran   Yeah. Darned right its annoying Its gotta be the...   Apr 5 2004, 10:45 AM


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