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post Sep 23 2011, 06:38 AM
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Good Morning Dumpshockers,

i am reanimating the idea of a BC-creating spell for defense purposes. I already thought about it but up to now it didn´t work well rule-wise. What i basically want is an instant-effect, sustaining spell that creates a BC at a rating of the successes rolled. Centre of effect is the magician so that he is influenced as well. Of course you need to have at least magic 1 left after the effect takes in to sustain it. You cannot aspect the rating to your tradition, so it is really only for defensive purposes and to keep spirits away from you if things go FUBAR. I don´t have my books at hand and the last try to calculate the drain was below the drain for mana static. Don´t know if the GM allows it. Can you help?
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- Machiavelli   New Spell   Sep 23 2011, 06:38 AM
- - Loch   I can point you to Mana Static, a spell which does...   Sep 23 2011, 06:40 AM
- - Machiavelli   Naa, not really. Mana Static is a permanent area-o...   Sep 23 2011, 06:48 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 22 2011, 11:48 P...   Sep 23 2011, 02:11 PM
||- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 04...   Sep 23 2011, 04:24 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 23 2011, 09:24 AM) S...   Sep 23 2011, 04:35 PM
||- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 23 2011, 03...   Sep 24 2011, 12:30 PM
||- - Stalag   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 24 2011, 08:30 A...   Sep 24 2011, 06:06 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 23 2011, 12:48 A...   Sep 24 2011, 12:05 AM
|- - Stalag   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 23 2011, 01:48 A...   Sep 24 2011, 02:29 AM
- - Draco18s   Sounds like you need to surge into an Astrally Haz...   Sep 24 2011, 04:22 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not clear if the magic in SR4 allows non-...   Sep 24 2011, 04:41 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Indeed... It seems like what the Player/Character ...   Sep 24 2011, 04:58 PM
- - Ascalaphus   What about a Slaughter Spirits spell? It's saf...   Sep 24 2011, 06:48 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 24 2011, 02:48 PM...   Sep 24 2011, 07:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 24 2011, 11:48 AM...   Sep 24 2011, 07:18 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Such a BC spell would be quite useful. It'd so...   Sep 24 2011, 07:14 PM
|- - Stalag   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 24 2011, 02:14 PM...   Sep 24 2011, 07:28 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not really a question of being useful, th...   Sep 24 2011, 07:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Another issue is that this effectively replicates ...   Sep 24 2011, 07:52 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 24 2011, 03:52 PM...   Sep 24 2011, 09:45 PM
|- - Stalag   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Sep 24 2011, 04:45 P...   Sep 25 2011, 04:41 AM
- - Modular Man   I'm sorry, but I'm not really following he...   Sep 25 2011, 10:17 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Modular Man @ Sep 26 2011, 12:17 A...   Sep 25 2011, 10:32 PM
||- - Modular Man   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 26 2011, 12:32 AM) D...   Sep 25 2011, 11:17 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Modular Man @ Sep 25 2011, 06:17 P...   Sep 25 2011, 10:40 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Sep 26 2011, 12:40 A...   Sep 26 2011, 12:17 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Hmm. How 'smart' is it? Does it ignore the...   Sep 26 2011, 12:34 AM
- - Machiavelli   This would be my spell no. 2 but i didn´t plan it ...   Sep 26 2011, 11:00 AM
|- - Stalag   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 26 2011, 07:00 A...   Sep 26 2011, 01:43 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If you want AoE Elemental Aura, I assume you just ...   Sep 26 2011, 02:45 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 26 2011, 02:45 PM...   Sep 26 2011, 02:48 PM
- - Machiavelli   I am doing the same spell with the mage as the cen...   Sep 26 2011, 02:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That was my assumption, too, but my rules-fu is we...   Sep 26 2011, 02:51 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I'm having trouble understanding why people ar...   Sep 26 2011, 03:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't say people are any amount of upset....   Sep 26 2011, 04:04 PM
- - Machiavelli   UI am off-books but IIRC there is no drain-modifie...   Sep 27 2011, 05:49 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Number one, why do you ask? Did someone suggest th...   Sep 27 2011, 12:50 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 27 2011, 01:50 PM...   Sep 27 2011, 01:06 PM
||- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 27 2011, 03:06 PM...   Sep 27 2011, 01:26 PM
||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 27 2011, 02:26 PM) W...   Sep 27 2011, 01:51 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 27 2011, 12:50 PM...   Sep 27 2011, 02:12 PM
- - Minimax le Rouge   a power 6 spirit materialize in front of me and en...   Sep 27 2011, 02:14 PM
- - Machiavelli   So you want to say there is some space for abusal?...   Sep 27 2011, 02:21 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Elemental Aura is sustained, though (and never AoE...   Sep 27 2011, 02:48 PM
- - HunterHerne   On my suggested spell: It probably would have the...   Sep 27 2011, 02:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, I could see allowing a special class of ...   Sep 27 2011, 03:28 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 27 2011, 03:28 PM...   Sep 27 2011, 03:33 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 27 2011, 05:33 P...   Sep 27 2011, 04:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   My point is that that's totally outside of the...   Sep 27 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 27 2011, 04:35 PM...   Sep 27 2011, 04:02 PM
- - Machiavelli   No, elemental aura has no AOE acc. to RAW, but the...   Sep 27 2011, 03:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's argue that those are indirect AoE instant...   Sep 27 2011, 04:05 PM
- - Machiavelli   Of course you have to adjust the rules a little bi...   Sep 28 2011, 05:55 AM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 01:55 A...   Sep 28 2011, 11:38 AM
- - Machiavelli   I say: if element aura can do it, the burst-spell ...   Sep 28 2011, 12:55 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 05:55 A...   Sep 28 2011, 02:41 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 02:55 P...   Sep 28 2011, 04:34 PM
- - Yerameyahu   A house-ruled variation of Elemental Aura, yes. I ...   Sep 28 2011, 03:05 PM
- - Machiavelli   I did it this way: - expands (force/2) meters fr...   Sep 28 2011, 04:35 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 06:35 P...   Sep 28 2011, 05:01 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 06:35 P...   Sep 28 2011, 05:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's stupid, Mardrax. There is no concept i...   Sep 28 2011, 04:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'd say because you can't physically dodge...   Sep 28 2011, 05:04 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 28 2011, 07:04 PM...   Sep 28 2011, 05:12 PM
- - Bigity   What came first? The simple action to shoot yours...   Sep 28 2011, 05:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You have to make a surprise test against yourself,...   Sep 28 2011, 05:33 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 28 2011, 07:33 PM...   Sep 28 2011, 05:54 PM
- - Machiavelli   Ok, let´s see: Type Physical spell +1 Range Very...   Sep 28 2011, 06:53 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 28 2011, 01:53 P...   Sep 28 2011, 08:47 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Critias @ Sep 28 2011, 04:47 PM) *...   Sep 29 2011, 12:15 AM
- - Bigity   Why is the target restricted to the caster and the...   Sep 28 2011, 06:56 PM
- - Dahrken   Flame Aura (the original spell) is LOS, meaning yo...   Sep 28 2011, 07:46 PM
- - Mardrax   Especially with the double dipping going on, this ...   Sep 28 2011, 08:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I wasn't aware of Elemental Cloud before today...   Sep 28 2011, 08:38 PM
- - Machiavelli   I only took the RAW and put every approbriate modi...   Sep 29 2011, 05:57 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 29 2011, 01:57 A...   Sep 29 2011, 12:54 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 29 2011, 07:57 A...   Sep 29 2011, 09:34 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 29 2011, 03:34 PM) A...   Sep 29 2011, 09:35 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 29 2011, 11...   Sep 30 2011, 04:03 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 30 2011, 10:03 AM) H...   Sep 30 2011, 04:09 PM
- - Dahrken   The difference is you need to sucessfully attack (...   Sep 29 2011, 11:08 AM
- - Ascalaphus   I think it makes more sense to take Fireball as ba...   Sep 29 2011, 11:20 AM
- - Machiavelli   The problem is, the spell is designed to save your...   Sep 29 2011, 11:53 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 29 2011, 12:53 P...   Sep 29 2011, 12:02 PM
- - Machiavelli   I will let my GM decide. ^^   Sep 29 2011, 12:08 PM
- - HunterHerne   I still say it works best as a suppressive fire zo...   Sep 29 2011, 12:10 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Personally, I never understood my Caster Only shou...   Sep 29 2011, 12:18 PM
- - Machiavelli   I don´t know. We are talking about a field of fire...   Sep 29 2011, 12:22 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Having not read WAR!, how is this different fr...   Sep 29 2011, 01:00 PM
- - Machiavelli   Really. Hmmmm...what about limited target? I wante...   Sep 29 2011, 01:01 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 29 2011, 09:01 A...   Sep 29 2011, 01:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Not affecting the caster is a bonus, though.   Sep 29 2011, 01:15 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 29 2011, 09:15 AM...   Sep 29 2011, 01:43 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 29 2011, 09:43 AM) ...   Sep 29 2011, 02:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You did say it wasn't, when you suggested that...   Sep 29 2011, 02:11 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 29 2011, 10:11 AM...   Sep 29 2011, 02:18 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 29 2011, 04:11 PM...   Sep 29 2011, 06:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, he obviously can't have both spells tog...   Sep 29 2011, 09:10 PM
- - Dahrken   The drain of the "standard" spell would ...   Sep 30 2011, 05:10 PM
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