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Psikerlord
post Oct 9 2011, 06:58 AM
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Is it possible to have a useful and reasonably combat capable character in SR4A with no magic (inc resonance) and no augmentations? I get the feeling it probably is - using very high edge, maybe drugs to boost combat, and spend all your cash and the best gear/equipment...? What do folks think? If anyone has played such a character I'd love to hear how it went.
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- Psikerlord   No augmentation, no magic - a realistic char?   Oct 9 2011, 06:58 AM
- - Mayhem_2006   A lot of stuff useful in combat can be worn as gea...   Oct 9 2011, 07:06 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Mayhem_2006 @ Oct 9 2011, 12:06 AM...   Oct 10 2011, 10:07 PM
- - Tanegar   For some reason, this archetype appeals to me imme...   Oct 9 2011, 07:36 AM
- - Psikerlord   Yeah, I guess by "reasonably capable" in...   Oct 9 2011, 08:04 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Oct 9 2011, 12:04 AM)...   Oct 9 2011, 08:38 PM
- - Tanegar   I think you can still get pretty good dice pools, ...   Oct 9 2011, 08:36 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Oct 9 2011, 01:36 AM) I ...   Oct 9 2011, 08:53 AM
- - Ryu   You should be able to build a GuardXL with 400 BP....   Oct 9 2011, 09:08 AM
- - Hound   I don't know if this counts, but what about th...   Oct 9 2011, 09:44 AM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Hound @ Oct 9 2011, 06:44 AM) I do...   Oct 9 2011, 01:07 PM
|- - Whipstitch   TBH it seems to me that you may as well set those ...   Oct 9 2011, 02:44 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Oct 9 2011, 08:44 AM)...   Oct 9 2011, 02:58 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 9 2011, 09:58 AM) While...   Oct 9 2011, 07:18 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 9 2011, 04:58 PM) Why a...   Oct 9 2011, 08:10 PM
- - suoq   Quick stab for a starting point: http://fairlygood...   Oct 9 2011, 01:51 PM
- - ChatNoir   Creating a character good enough shouldn't be ...   Oct 9 2011, 02:30 PM
- - Makki   drones or sensor pack carrying squirrels for your ...   Oct 9 2011, 02:50 PM
- - Neraph   Trode Net + Commlink + Drone = Capable. Toss in Re...   Oct 9 2011, 05:37 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Neraph @ Oct 9 2011, 07:37 PM) Tro...   Oct 9 2011, 07:23 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Ryu @ Oct 9 2011, 01:23 PM) Much o...   Oct 9 2011, 10:29 PM
- - KCKitsune   Why play as a non-augmented normal? I mean why ...   Oct 9 2011, 07:28 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   There's nothing wrong at all with wanting to p...   Oct 9 2011, 07:46 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Explaining "no magic" isn't the prob...   Oct 9 2011, 08:22 PM
|- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Oct 9 2011, 03:22 PM)...   Oct 9 2011, 08:28 PM
- - TheOOB   The topic of this thread mentioned "A realist...   Oct 9 2011, 08:38 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Oct 9 2011, 10:38 PM) Edg...   Oct 10 2011, 05:23 AM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 9 2011, 10:2...   Oct 9 2011, 09:06 PM
|- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Oct 9 2011, 03:06 PM)...   Oct 9 2011, 09:20 PM
||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 9 2011, 11:2...   Oct 10 2011, 08:20 AM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 9 2011, 04:2...   Oct 10 2011, 05:31 PM
|||- - JonathanC   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 10 2011, 09:31 AM) Beca...   Oct 10 2011, 05:49 PM
|||- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 10 2011, 11:31 AM) Beca...   Oct 10 2011, 06:12 PM
|||- - suoq   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 10 2011, 12...   Oct 10 2011, 06:29 PM
|||- - JonathanC   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 10 2011, 10:29 AM) Agil...   Oct 10 2011, 06:34 PM
||||- - suoq   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 10 2011, 01:34 PM)...   Oct 10 2011, 06:39 PM
||||- - JonathanC   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 10 2011, 10:39 AM) I ag...   Oct 10 2011, 06:44 PM
|||- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 10 2011, 12:29 PM) Agil...   Oct 10 2011, 06:51 PM
|||- - suoq   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 10 2011, 12...   Oct 10 2011, 07:17 PM
|||- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 10 2011, 01...   Oct 10 2011, 10:03 PM
|||- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Oct 10 2011, 04:03 PM) T...   Oct 10 2011, 11:02 PM
|||- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 10 2011, 06...   Oct 11 2011, 12:10 AM
|||- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Oct 10 2011, 07:10 PM) I...   Oct 11 2011, 01:01 AM
||- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 9 2011, 05:2...   Oct 11 2011, 07:43 AM
||- - Bigity   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Oct 11 2011, 02:43 AM) Fo...   Oct 11 2011, 01:21 PM
||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 11 2011, 03:21 PM) I ...   Oct 11 2011, 01:24 PM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 11 2011, 08:21 AM) I ...   Oct 11 2011, 05:27 PM
||- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 11 2011, 08:21 AM) I ...   Oct 11 2011, 09:06 PM
||- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Oct 11 2011, 11:06 PM) Th...   Oct 12 2011, 10:54 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Oct 9 2011, 01:06 PM)...   Oct 9 2011, 10:03 PM
- - Kirk   If I may quote from Augmentation: QUOTE Though mos...   Oct 9 2011, 09:17 PM
- - Shortstraw   You could try playing a pariah.   Oct 9 2011, 09:59 PM
- - Saint Hallow   In earlier editions of SR, this might have been ea...   Oct 10 2011, 05:13 AM
- - Irion   Can you have a starting character performing like ...   Oct 10 2011, 09:06 AM
- - Blade   A few ways I can see to make an unaugmented charac...   Oct 10 2011, 09:35 AM
- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   It depends on the parameters of the game - the mo...   Oct 10 2011, 09:40 AM
- - UmaroVI   As an unaugmented mundane, you will suck - in the ...   Oct 10 2011, 10:58 AM
- - Glyph   Honestly, augmented or awakened characters are les...   Oct 10 2011, 06:50 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 10 2011, 10:50 AM) Hon...   Oct 10 2011, 06:56 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 10 2011, 12:56 PM)...   Oct 10 2011, 09:55 PM
- - Saint Hallow   Isn't Hood (Troll Archer) from 1 of the novels...   Oct 10 2011, 06:57 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Oct 10 2011, 10:57 ...   Oct 10 2011, 07:04 PM
- - Paul   Unaugmented characters have popped up from time to...   Oct 10 2011, 07:14 PM
- - Glyph   Here is a thread with some examples of mundane bui...   Oct 10 2011, 07:17 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   Or 40 BP worth of other gear.   Oct 10 2011, 09:58 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Drugs vs. Implants: I'm having a hard time bel...   Oct 10 2011, 10:02 PM
- - Whipstitch   40 bp of other gear (like perhaps a few quirky veh...   Oct 10 2011, 10:03 PM
- - Irion   It is possible to start like that and not be a dea...   Oct 10 2011, 10:34 PM
- - Glyph   Mundane builds can certainly be viable. But havin...   Oct 10 2011, 11:45 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 10 2011, 07:45 PM) Oth...   Oct 11 2011, 12:25 AM
- - suoq   This is going to an area where I always have diffi...   Oct 11 2011, 12:55 AM
- - KarmaInferno   I dunno about "hyperoptimized characters are ...   Oct 11 2011, 01:15 AM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 10 2011, 09:15 ...   Oct 11 2011, 01:54 AM
- - Udoshi   Reformed Powergamers optimize for flavor, but eat ...   Oct 11 2011, 02:36 AM
- - Saint Hallow   Another good example is the bodyguard type charact...   Oct 11 2011, 03:57 AM
|- - Mayhem_2006   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Oct 11 2011, 04:57 ...   Oct 11 2011, 05:21 AM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, I ran a former corp bodyguard and spider bef...   Oct 11 2011, 05:35 AM
- - Cain   First of all, y'all are making a silly assumpt...   Oct 11 2011, 06:10 AM
- - Saint Hallow   Some triple AAA rated areas & parties can/will...   Oct 11 2011, 06:12 AM
|- - Faraday   4 hits on an assensing test is a lot. For a checkp...   Oct 11 2011, 06:40 AM
- - Whipstitch   Given the oft-repeated ubiquity of headware in cor...   Oct 11 2011, 06:57 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE Your character should be good at what they d...   Oct 11 2011, 08:06 AM
- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   As badly as I would want an unaugmented character ...   Oct 11 2011, 08:47 AM
- - Ryu   Introducing a new quality that permits higher perf...   Oct 11 2011, 12:12 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Ryu @ Oct 11 2011, 04:12 AM) Regar...   Oct 12 2011, 02:39 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Eh. If you want an in-game reason to not have ...   Oct 11 2011, 01:08 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I think, in short, an un-augmented character IS po...   Oct 12 2011, 02:45 AM
- - Midas   I too think an unaugmented mundane character is fe...   Oct 12 2011, 03:46 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Midas @ Oct 11 2011, 08:46 PM) I t...   Oct 12 2011, 03:55 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 11 2011, 07...   Oct 12 2011, 09:05 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 12 2011, 03:05 AM) ...   Oct 12 2011, 02:13 PM
|- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (Midas @ Oct 11 2011, 10:46 PM) Sur...   Oct 12 2011, 01:09 PM
||- - Kirk   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 12 2011, 09...   Oct 12 2011, 01:23 PM
||- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE (Kirk @ Oct 12 2011, 07:23 AM) Actu...   Oct 12 2011, 02:46 PM
||- - DamienKnight   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Oct 12 2011, 09...   Oct 12 2011, 02:48 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (DamienKnight @ Oct 12 2011, 07:48 ...   Oct 12 2011, 02:58 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Midas @ Oct 11 2011, 09:46 PM) Sur...   Oct 12 2011, 02:17 PM
- - Saint Hallow   Maybe if the campaign was a street level game with...   Oct 12 2011, 04:46 AM
- - Neraph   Isn't this really a thread about whether or no...   Oct 12 2011, 02:19 PM
- - DamienKnight   QUOTE (Neraph @ Oct 12 2011, 09:19 AM) Is...   Oct 12 2011, 02:29 PM
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