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Joker9125
post Apr 5 2004, 07:15 PM
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In a run i did i had the team break into an apartment and "convince" a guy not to testify against a mob bosses grandson. Knowing the team and figuring on everyone having improved invisiblity i had a thought. If i give the swat team mage that is helping to guard the guy trid phantasim i can make the player characters visible!!! Trid phantasim is awsome i simply had the mage cast it and make an illusion of those characters standing, walking, or running where they were, now this brings me to my first question. Since both spells affect the same part of the brain and would contradict each other in that situation how do you determine wich one wins? When I did the trid thing the character ducked behind a door to get full cover modifiers. Now herein lies the problem with this. This was an average sized door and even though this guy was a dwarf he would still take up a good bit of the width of the door. Think about it, if you were standing in front of a door while someone in shotting at it you would have a pretty damn high probability of getting hit espically if the attacker was using an assault rifle like these swat guys were.

My personal thoughts on these situations is as follows

For conflicting spells use a force test
For the door thing or similar situations use supressing fire rules but allow for some damage stageup.

Any suggestions? or better ideas?
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- Joker9125   Conflicting spells and stange situations   Apr 5 2004, 07:15 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Wow, interesting situation. For the spells in conf...   Apr 5 2004, 07:30 PM
- - Nikoli   Quick question, how is the Mage seeing them in the...   Apr 5 2004, 07:32 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I'm assuming astrally.   Apr 5 2004, 07:33 PM
- - Nikoli   No good, invis and improved invis duck astral. on...   Apr 5 2004, 07:36 PM
- - Joker9125   Astral perception   Apr 5 2004, 07:37 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   SR core book, pg 195 Improved Invisibility: This s...   Apr 5 2004, 07:40 PM
- - Joker9125   QUOTE (Nikoli) Better bet would have been a ward t...   Apr 5 2004, 07:40 PM
- - Nikoli   Again, the support mage can't see them. Might...   Apr 5 2004, 07:42 PM
- - Joker9125   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) SR core book, pg 195 Improved In...   Apr 5 2004, 07:43 PM
- - Joker9125   QUOTE (Nikoli) Again, the support mage can't s...   Apr 5 2004, 07:44 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Nikoli)No good, invis and improved invis du...   Apr 5 2004, 07:44 PM
- - Nikoli   I will, but I was under the impression that regard...   Apr 5 2004, 07:45 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Maybe I'm misunderstanding the situation, but ...   Apr 5 2004, 07:45 PM
- - Joker9125   that is the situation i hoped i made it clear enou...   Apr 5 2004, 07:50 PM
- - Nikoli   I didn't know astral got around invis in Canon...   Apr 5 2004, 07:53 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Joker9125) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Apr 5 20...   Apr 5 2004, 07:54 PM
- - Rev   Moon hawk has good ideas about how to work it. I ...   Apr 5 2004, 08:02 PM
- - Sunday_Gamer   Let's break it down. for starters let's ju...   Apr 5 2004, 11:37 PM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE The mage can see their auras from astral spa...   Apr 5 2004, 11:44 PM
- - Voran   Yeah, i don't think it would make any differen...   Apr 6 2004, 12:17 AM
- - OurTeam   Sunday_Gamer's interpretation matches mine, an...   Apr 6 2004, 03:12 AM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE B) An astrally projecting magician cannot ca...   Apr 6 2004, 03:54 AM
- - Joker9125   "An astrally projecting magician cannot cast ...   Apr 6 2004, 03:55 AM
- - Zazen   I'm just curious, how were they all under Imp ...   Apr 6 2004, 06:06 AM
- - Sunday_Gamer   It should be noted that I once helped my friends s...   Apr 6 2004, 06:11 AM
- - Sunday_Gamer   And btw, seeing someone under invisibility from th...   Apr 6 2004, 06:15 AM
- - BitBasher   Well there's a catch with that. Most times mag...   Apr 6 2004, 06:19 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Sunday_Gamer) And btw, seeing someone under...   Apr 6 2004, 06:34 AM
- - A Clockwork Lime   QUOTE (Sunday_Gamer) And btw, seeing someone under...   Apr 6 2004, 06:43 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE Their astral aura will look just like it alw...   Apr 6 2004, 06:47 AM
- - A Clockwork Lime   It's not an aura you're seeing. It's ...   Apr 6 2004, 06:53 AM
- - Kanada Ten   That's an interpritation. The book calls it a ...   Apr 6 2004, 06:54 AM
- - A Clockwork Lime   <just rubs his temples> Even a character wh...   Apr 6 2004, 07:06 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) Even a character who is c...   Apr 6 2004, 07:24 AM
- - tjn   What Zazen said Cept, one's not actually see...   Apr 6 2004, 07:41 AM
- - Thistledown   I agree that invisibilty, improved or not, would n...   Apr 6 2004, 08:18 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Thistledown) On a related thing though, is ...   Apr 6 2004, 08:27 AM
- - Darkest Angel   QUOTE (Thistledown @ Apr 6 2004, 09:18 AM) I ...   Apr 6 2004, 01:39 PM
- - Brazila   A lot of you guys are just arguing the scenario, w...   Apr 9 2004, 05:16 AM


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