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GM Lich
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So if I remember correctly correctly when I was reading that heavily cybered individuals basically lose their humanity because apparently cybernetics eat your soul. Thats fine, but I was wondering what are the disadvantages of being a mage. Do mage's lose their humanity or anything or is the only disadvantages is the mentor spirits really. I don't see any real disadvantage with mage aside from possibly social stigma?
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- GM Lich   Mages vs Street Sammie   Dec 4 2011, 06:38 AM
- - Christian Lafay   If it's just fluff, then one game I was in had...   Dec 4 2011, 06:42 AM
- - Irion   There is not. Mages are superhumans, end of line. ...   Dec 4 2011, 07:08 AM
- - Falconer   It's simple! Streat sams lose their souls...   Dec 4 2011, 07:40 AM
- - Hound   Falconer kind of has it right actually, in my opin...   Dec 4 2011, 08:54 AM
- - Irion   @Hound True, but thats not from beeing a mage that...   Dec 4 2011, 08:58 AM
- - Glyph   Awakened characters are like the X-men; they are a...   Dec 4 2011, 12:44 PM
- - The_Vanguard   There's also the problem that power corrupts, ...   Dec 4 2011, 01:01 PM
- - Irion   @The_Vanguard QUOTE There's also the problem t...   Dec 4 2011, 01:44 PM
- - Blade   First of all, a mage has to follow a tradition. An...   Dec 5 2011, 10:27 AM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Yeah, just take a look at Anakin and Palpatine... ...   Dec 5 2011, 12:09 PM
- - MortVent   It's also a cycle thing too.. When you are kn...   Dec 5 2011, 12:19 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   My first Shadowrun4 character didn't had so mu...   Dec 5 2011, 12:33 PM
- - Belvidere   And you have to take into account, the street samm...   Dec 5 2011, 04:40 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Belvidere @ Dec 5 2011, 01:40 PM) ...   Dec 5 2011, 05:42 PM
- - CanRay   Also, there's a lot more "Street Samurais...   Dec 5 2011, 05:25 PM
|- - Blade   QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 5 2011, 06:25 PM) Als...   Dec 6 2011, 09:08 AM
|- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (Blade @ Dec 6 2011, 10:08 AM) I do...   Dec 6 2011, 09:52 AM
- - Shortstraw   Also an overcasting addiction is a bitch- the high...   Dec 6 2011, 10:47 AM
- - Darquewing   I think one of the biggest issues is that Mages ar...   Dec 6 2011, 06:28 PM
|- - JanessaVR   QUOTE (Darquewing @ Dec 6 2011, 10:28 AM)...   Dec 6 2011, 08:12 PM
- - Irion   @Darquewing Sorry, but this is not a real argument...   Dec 7 2011, 09:10 AM
|- - Darquewing   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 7 2011, 03:10 AM) @Dar...   Dec 7 2011, 02:10 PM
- - Irion   @Darquewing Both have the option of the delta clin...   Dec 7 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 7 2011, 12:35 PM) @Dar...   Dec 7 2011, 04:56 PM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 7 2011, 05...   Dec 7 2011, 06:29 PM
||- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 7 2011, 03:29 PM) I ju...   Dec 7 2011, 08:49 PM
||- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 7 2011, 08...   Dec 7 2011, 10:12 PM
|- - Jareth Valar   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 7 2011, 11...   Dec 8 2011, 03:38 AM
|- - Darquewing   QUOTE (Jareth Valar @ Dec 7 2011, 09:38 P...   Dec 8 2011, 12:58 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Darquewing @ Dec 8 2011, 05:58 AM)...   Dec 8 2011, 03:22 PM
- - CanRay   Magician Way Of The Burn-Out! Also, there...   Dec 7 2011, 05:22 PM
|- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 7 2011, 05:22 PM) Mag...   Dec 7 2011, 05:28 PM
- - CanRay   You know, that sounded almost Tom Waits as well as...   Dec 7 2011, 05:30 PM
- - Christian Lafay   If your mage runs out of things to buy then you ar...   Dec 7 2011, 06:31 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Dec 7 2011, 02:3...   Dec 7 2011, 07:32 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Dec 7 2011, 01:3...   Dec 7 2011, 07:42 PM
|- - Christian Lafay   QUOTE (MortVent @ Dec 7 2011, 07:42 PM) S...   Dec 7 2011, 08:06 PM
- - Irion   Well, so why would the Sam take delta gear? (That...   Dec 7 2011, 10:48 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 8 2011, 06:48 AM) Well...   Dec 8 2011, 01:50 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (toturi @ Dec 7 2011, 09:50 PM) I t...   Dec 8 2011, 02:03 AM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (toturi @ Dec 8 2011, 02:50 AM) I t...   Dec 8 2011, 07:55 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 8 2011, 12:55 AM) So p...   Dec 8 2011, 03:20 PM
- - CanRay   QUOTE (MortVent @ Dec 7 2011, 03:42 PM) S...   Dec 8 2011, 01:13 AM
- - ggodo   What's the damage rating on bags of credsticks...   Dec 8 2011, 02:04 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (ggodo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:04 PM) What...   Dec 8 2011, 02:44 AM
- - Christian Lafay   Normal or are we using SR4 A- non errata phys-ad r...   Dec 8 2011, 02:45 AM
- - Irion   @Tymeaus Jalynsfein And what is stopping you from ...   Dec 8 2011, 04:23 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 8 2011, 09:23 AM) @Tym...   Dec 8 2011, 06:04 PM
- - Darquewing   I think it all depends on the sort of campaign you...   Dec 8 2011, 06:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Darquewing @ Dec 8 2011, 11:32 AM)...   Dec 8 2011, 06:51 PM
- - MortVent   I would think most runners want to retire. So the...   Dec 8 2011, 06:46 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (MortVent @ Dec 8 2011, 11:46 AM) I...   Dec 8 2011, 06:54 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (MortVent @ Dec 8 2011, 02:46 PM) I...   Dec 8 2011, 07:51 PM
- - Machiavelli   You know that I would be the last person who would...   Dec 8 2011, 06:52 PM
- - Irion   @Tymeaus Jalynsfe... It depends. The point is, if...   Dec 8 2011, 06:58 PM
- - Machiavelli   @ Irion: i do? I cannot see a mistake, sorry. The ...   Dec 8 2011, 07:12 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   And background-count   Dec 8 2011, 07:14 PM
- - Irion   @Machiavelli Which is the point. If I am able to m...   Dec 8 2011, 07:33 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Irion @ Dec 8 2011, 08:33 PM) @Mac...   Dec 8 2011, 08:06 PM
|- - Slithery D   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Dec 8 2011, 03:06 PM...   Dec 9 2011, 02:52 PM
- - ggodo   One of my characters has a permanent cheap high li...   Dec 8 2011, 08:29 PM
- - Irion   @Machiavelli Find the mage can be quite difficult....   Dec 8 2011, 09:33 PM
- - Machiavelli   We donīt handwave pressing through. We just handle...   Dec 9 2011, 08:22 AM
- - Irion   @Machiavelli 1. Depends on how you define game bre...   Dec 9 2011, 09:12 AM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   The conversation evolved a lot while I wasn't ...   Dec 9 2011, 11:24 AM
- - Machiavelli   @Irion: 1) Like every body else does? Making the g...   Dec 9 2011, 11:34 AM
- - Mercer   I only have a minute before work but I usually don...   Dec 9 2011, 11:48 AM
- - Irion   QUOTE 3) Quickening is always a good option. Even ...   Dec 9 2011, 12:27 PM
- - Machiavelli   Actually they are quite common, but our team is ca...   Dec 9 2011, 02:44 PM
- - Irion   I do not play with you. So I can't say how use...   Dec 9 2011, 02:58 PM
- - Machiavelli   I would agree. Depends.   Dec 9 2011, 02:59 PM
- - Falconer   I can't see how extended masking ISN"T al...   Dec 10 2011, 06:51 PM
- - Irion   @Falconer Well, the change is not gamebreaking if ...   Dec 10 2011, 07:51 PM
- - Jet   It all comes down to the character's motivatio...   Dec 12 2011, 02:02 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jet @ Dec 11 2011, 07:02 PM) It al...   Dec 12 2011, 04:00 AM
- - Glyph   I think runners should have reasons to run beyond ...   Dec 12 2011, 03:28 AM
- - CanRay   Why can't it be both, Jet? I know most of m...   Dec 12 2011, 04:04 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 11 2011, 09:04 PM) Wh...   Dec 12 2011, 03:55 PM


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