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Jonny Reload
post Jan 20 2012, 03:03 AM
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Ok, most of the content in Runners Black Book was kinda meh, but then I see this one "Obsolete" Drone in the "This Old Drone" section called the Ares Air-Supply and this thing is all sorts of wrong.

For starters, I feel guilty for wanting to pick it up for my Technomancer but it's clearly worth the value. But here's where the responsible player/GM in me comes around to beat me upside the head...

Sometimes the art doesn't accurately portray the stats or write up for the drone sometimes but GOOD GOD this thing is huge! Look at the mounted mini-gun in front then compare it to the rest of the mass of the drone. Did the writers just make a new size category for Drones and forgot to tell everyone about it?!

Normally I wasn't even aware Drones could go past Body 4, I thought anything bigger and that's when you move into Vehicle territory, but with a Body 6 (if this isn't a typo), you can upgrade this VTOL Drone to have an 18 Armor.... 18! Most Military Drones can't even get past 12!

Now, this is primarily a Re-Supply Transport Drone that has tons of cargo space so my question at this point is, why would you ever need to buy a Plane or a Helicopter if this Drone could seat you for transport? Most flying vehicles easily break the 100,000 Nuyen price point so while this drone is only 8,500!!! I mean unless your Shadowrunners demand to travel in comfort and style (Which at this point, you should probably have a Luxury Lifestyle if your runner is this picky) why is this series not still in mass production by Ares? Better yet, why isn't in vastly popular amongst Smugglers and Riggers alike?

I mean, this Drones stats and write up literally make no sense in terms with fitting into the Shadowrun universe on an economic, rules, or statistic level at all. Is their an addendum or errata that was released saying "Oh yeah, we forgot 2 digits off the price point" or "Yeah the Body was suppose to be a 4" I mean high-body Drones give you the opportunity to push Armor ratings WAY up and being that it's only 8,500 there's no reason why every Rigger doesn't have at least 2 or 3 of these at their garage.
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- Jonny Reload   Ares Air-Supply Drone from Runners Black Book...   Jan 20 2012, 03:03 AM
- - CanRay   Why is it not in mass production by Ares? Their o...   Jan 20 2012, 03:08 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 19 2012, 10:08 PM) Al...   Jan 20 2012, 03:19 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 19 2012, 10:08 PM) Al...   Jan 21 2012, 11:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   At some point, 'drone' doesn't really ...   Jan 20 2012, 03:19 AM
- - CanRay   Well, easy enough to find out. Figure out who the...   Jan 20 2012, 03:37 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 19 2012, 11:37 PM) We...   Jan 20 2012, 05:11 AM
- - ntwi   Food and Ammo for a platoon for a week? Figure a ...   Jan 20 2012, 04:28 AM
- - CanRay   Say a standard mobile unit in the field (It's ...   Jan 20 2012, 04:57 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 19 2012, 09:57 PM) St...   Jan 20 2012, 05:50 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 20 2012, 12:50 AM) I ...   Jan 20 2012, 06:00 AM
- - CanRay   Thanks Critias! We'll let him know who ra...   Jan 20 2012, 05:21 AM
- - Critias   I was thinking more along the lines of "shoot...   Jan 20 2012, 05:32 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 20 2012, 12:32 AM) I...   Jan 20 2012, 05:50 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 20 2012, 01:32 AM) I...   Jan 20 2012, 03:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Just because a rigger cocoon 'fits on somethin...   Jan 20 2012, 06:57 AM
- - KarmaInferno   When I think of a rigger cocoon on a medium drone,...   Jan 20 2012, 03:43 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, except it's more like a strong large duf...   Jan 20 2012, 04:05 PM
- - Method   I don't know if the art was changed in the pri...   Jan 20 2012, 04:28 PM
- - KarmaInferno   You could just rig it while sitting gecko-gripped ...   Jan 20 2012, 04:32 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, Method, you'd think a cargo supply drone...   Jan 20 2012, 04:36 PM
- - nightslasthero   I was going to suggest perhaps the department isn...   Jan 20 2012, 04:39 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (nightslasthero @ Jan 20 2012, 11:3...   Jan 20 2012, 04:47 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Assuming they don't have to go to the bathroom...   Jan 20 2012, 04:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't say that's 'easily ignored...   Jan 20 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Jan 20 2012, 04:03 ...   Jan 20 2012, 05:01 PM
- - Xahn Borealis   What about the drone having the actual lifting cap...   Jan 20 2012, 06:44 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2012, 02:44...   Jan 20 2012, 06:45 PM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2012, 06:44...   Jan 21 2012, 02:24 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yup, Xahn, carrying capacity is another tidbit we ...   Jan 20 2012, 06:57 PM
- - Xahn Borealis   I remember some rule somewhere saying that Body/2 ...   Jan 20 2012, 07:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Sounds sort of familiar, but that's still just...   Jan 20 2012, 07:23 PM
- - Saint Sithney   The Otomo has a bod of 6 and is a medium drone. L...   Jan 21 2012, 01:41 AM
- - Yerameyahu   'Potentially could' carry an adult (but no...   Jan 21 2012, 02:34 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 20 2012, 10:34 PM...   Jan 21 2012, 03:01 AM
- - 3278   QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Jan 20 2012, 03:03 ...   Jan 21 2012, 03:06 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 20 2012, 10:06 PM) I wo...   Jan 21 2012, 03:23 AM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Jan 21 2012, 03:23 ...   Jan 21 2012, 03:48 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 20 2012, 10:48 PM) Well...   Jan 21 2012, 03:53 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Besides, the Kull is *also* too cheap. Many things...   Jan 21 2012, 03:25 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Sounds good to me. Aircraft simply aren't chea...   Jan 21 2012, 03:56 AM
- - ntwi   Regarding price, as someone (3278) mentioned, in R...   Jan 21 2012, 04:13 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 20 2012, 11:13 PM) Rega...   Jan 21 2012, 04:24 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 20 2012, 08:13 PM) Rega...   Jan 21 2012, 09:05 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Pretty small load, too. Meaning, reasonable. Good...   Jan 21 2012, 04:18 AM
- - Saint Hallow   DO you really want to know why this drone is sized...   Jan 21 2012, 04:31 AM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Jan 20 2012, 11:31 ...   Jan 21 2012, 04:55 AM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Jan 21 2012, 12:55 ...   Jan 21 2012, 05:16 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Jan 21 2012, 12:31 ...   Jan 21 2012, 06:35 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 21 2012, 01:35 AM) I...   Jan 22 2012, 04:47 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 22 2012, 12:47 PM) ...   Jan 22 2012, 05:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe. It's the first thing I thought of when I...   Jan 21 2012, 05:18 AM
|- - Saint Hallow   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 21 2012, 12:18 AM...   Jan 21 2012, 05:22 AM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   Just compare the price to a "Wuxing Hussar...   Jan 21 2012, 01:49 PM
|- - Jonny Reload   QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Jan 21 2012, 08:49 ...   Jan 21 2012, 06:37 PM
- - Yerameyahu   At least it's not flying. But yup, *many* pric...   Jan 21 2012, 02:57 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   no, its just a hovercraft   Jan 21 2012, 03:22 PM
- - 3278   By and large, I think drones are priced disproport...   Jan 21 2012, 03:27 PM
- - Falconer   Quite frankly, I'm against putting passengers ...   Jan 21 2012, 07:04 PM
|- - 3278   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 21 2012, 08:04 PM) ...   Jan 21 2012, 07:11 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 21 2012, 12:04 PM) ...   Jan 21 2012, 08:42 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 21 2012, 02:04 PM) ...   Jan 21 2012, 11:03 PM
|- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jan 22 2012, 12:03 ...   Jan 23 2012, 04:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That, at least, is a case where the rules clearly ...   Jan 21 2012, 08:52 PM
- - CanRay   OK, I'll be the one to say it: Body should in...   Jan 21 2012, 10:04 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 21 2012, 02:04 PM) OK...   Jan 22 2012, 12:58 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jan 21 2012, 08:58...   Jan 22 2012, 01:15 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Sengir mentioned it… for this thread. Stupid ...   Jan 21 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's assuming it's even possible, of cou...   Jan 21 2012, 11:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's really just spitballing, because they wer...   Jan 22 2012, 12:15 AM
- - CanRay   Where's my duct tape?   Jan 22 2012, 12:20 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Jan 20 2012, 04:03 ...   Jan 22 2012, 01:25 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Man, if someone dared try that…   Jan 22 2012, 01:35 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 22 2012, 02:35 AM...   Jan 22 2012, 07:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe, nice. For me, Body is totally ineligible for...   Jan 22 2012, 07:19 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 22 2012, 08:19 PM...   Jan 22 2012, 07:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Nothing in the rules for that, though. I agree it ...   Jan 22 2012, 08:17 PM
- - Modular Man   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jan 20 2012, 04:43 ...   Jan 25 2012, 04:39 PM
- - Brainpiercing7.62mm   Crud someone beat me to it, and such a long time a...   Jan 26 2012, 01:25 AM


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