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The Jake
post Jan 30 2012, 01:19 AM
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Pretty self explanatory. I'm looking at my next Metamagic feat. I'm seriously considering getting a high powered ally. The fluff backstory would be an ally spirit who is an ancestor spirit (of some kind) with a smattering of modern languages/lore to be a bit more 'street savvy' (matching my character's persona). This also fits quite well with a LOT of my character's persona and resent, in game events.

Downside? It is going to cost a LOT of karma. I mean a LOT. Knowledge skills cost the same as Active Skills and I want to give this thing a few skills/powers. Am also seriously thinking of Invoking the sucker (and yes, that is legal by RAW).

So... has anyone done this? Built a huge, honking ally spirit? Is it worth it? I've seen Frank Trollman's thoughts on this and he suggests that it is, but you're going without spending any karma for quite some time and that can be a tough ride (I'm paraphrasing a bit but you get the idea). But I'd like a bit more info, differing perspectives, etc.

- J.
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- The Jake   High Force (8+) Ally Spirit   Jan 30 2012, 01:19 AM
- - Udoshi   Ally spirits are awesome. The biggest - and this i...   Jan 30 2012, 02:10 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 30 2012, 03:10 AM) Al...   Jan 30 2012, 02:24 AM
- - UmaroVI   One big thing that makes them good - unlimited Aid...   Jan 30 2012, 02:28 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 30 2012, 03:28 AM) O...   Jan 30 2012, 02:33 AM
- - Tanegar   I coulda sworn that there was an explicit prohibit...   Jan 30 2012, 02:39 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jan 30 2012, 03:39 AM) I...   Jan 30 2012, 02:41 AM
||- - Neraph   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 29 2012, 08:41 PM) ...   Jan 30 2012, 06:03 AM
|- - Bodak   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jan 30 2012, 12:39 PM) I...   Feb 7 2012, 07:21 AM
- - Tanegar   Force 8 is a little excessive, IMO. Force 5 is mu...   Jan 30 2012, 02:49 AM
- - The Jake   Appreciate where you are coming from, but my quest...   Jan 30 2012, 03:00 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 29 2012, 08:00 PM) ...   Jan 30 2012, 03:20 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 30 2012, 04:20 AM) As...   Jan 30 2012, 03:28 AM
- - Udoshi   Sorry Aspected domains are still PLENTY good, an...   Jan 30 2012, 04:17 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 30 2012, 05:17 AM) So...   Jan 30 2012, 04:37 AM
- - Udoshi   The reason I ask about edge is because ally spirit...   Jan 30 2012, 04:51 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 30 2012, 05:51 AM) Th...   Jan 30 2012, 05:46 AM
- - The Jake   That is a delicious idea Neraph (and nasty) but re...   Jan 30 2012, 06:58 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 29 2012, 11:58 PM) ...   Jan 30 2012, 01:13 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 30 2012, 01:13 PM) Ac...   Jan 30 2012, 01:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 30 2012, 06:22 AM) ...   Jan 30 2012, 03:33 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 30 2012, 06:22 AM) ...   Jan 30 2012, 10:45 PM
- - Modular Man   You actually could, those normal limits are off co...   Jan 30 2012, 10:33 AM
- - The Jake   Ok... soooo....what happens if I get the Ally to I...   Jan 30 2012, 11:48 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 30 2012, 05:48 AM) ...   Jan 31 2012, 05:29 AM
- - UmaroVI   The key shenanigan, if I remember right, is gettin...   Jan 30 2012, 11:56 AM
- - The Jake   We have access to the Koshari leader for Denver as...   Jan 30 2012, 12:31 PM
- - The Jake   I plan on researching the formula from scratch but...   Jan 30 2012, 11:32 PM
- - Udoshi   SM 107: Optional Powers can come from one of the f...   Jan 31 2012, 01:03 AM
|- - The Jake   Damn... shame on not being able to learn Inhabitat...   Jan 31 2012, 01:07 AM
- - Udoshi   My guess would be finding a spirit that has experi...   Jan 31 2012, 01:24 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 31 2012, 01:24 AM) My...   Jan 31 2012, 02:50 AM
- - Yerameyahu   If you want to do that crap *at chargen*, though, ...   Jan 31 2012, 01:28 AM
- - The Jake   Yeah it does. Well beyond what I'm looking at....   Jan 31 2012, 05:50 AM
- - The Jake   OK my GM won't allow any optional rules on Fre...   Jan 31 2012, 08:54 AM
- - The Jake   Out of curiosity, post creation, there is nothing ...   Jan 31 2012, 11:04 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 31 2012, 04:04 AM) ...   Jan 31 2012, 04:52 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 31 2012, 05...   Jan 31 2012, 10:37 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE So I'm just going to stop hassling him, ...   Jan 31 2012, 12:38 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 31 2012, 01:38 PM...   Jan 31 2012, 01:57 PM
- - Udoshi   I do not think so. You can give them new powers fr...   Jan 31 2012, 11:19 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Feb 1 2012, 12:19 AM) I d...   Jan 31 2012, 11:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The why is pretty simple: cuz they can't. Fee...   Jan 31 2012, 11:55 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 1 2012, 12:55 AM)...   Jan 31 2012, 11:56 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 31 2012, 04:56 PM) ...   Feb 1 2012, 12:02 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 1 2012, 01...   Feb 1 2012, 01:08 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 31 2012, 06:08 PM) ...   Feb 1 2012, 01:35 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (The Jake @ Feb 1 2012, 09:08 AM) W...   Feb 1 2012, 07:57 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 31 2012, 07:08 PM) ...   Feb 1 2012, 02:30 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 1 2012, 02:30 PM) Sin...   Feb 2 2012, 01:14 AM
- - Yerameyahu   If you're going to start using the "if it...   Feb 1 2012, 01:44 AM
- - The Jake   My GM is being a tightfisted asshole on this one. ...   Feb 1 2012, 04:36 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe, so the solution is to assume RAW includes an...   Feb 1 2012, 04:48 AM
- - The Jake   I don't think I'm being anywhere as obstin...   Feb 1 2012, 05:49 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe. See, if I thought my GM hated the idea and w...   Feb 1 2012, 05:56 AM
- - Udoshi   Oh come on. Inhabitation for ally spirits isn...   Feb 1 2012, 05:58 AM
- - The Jake   I feel I'm being funnelled in a particular dir...   Feb 1 2012, 06:14 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not saying your idea is bad or you're ...   Feb 1 2012, 06:17 AM
- - Neraph   I find it interesting you value his word so much. ...   Feb 2 2012, 05:11 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 2 2012, 06:11 AM) I f...   Feb 2 2012, 06:03 AM
- - Yerameyahu   If I was going to ask anyone for help exploiting t...   Feb 2 2012, 05:21 AM
- - toturi   @Neraph: I have been riding the Canon/RAW horse in...   Feb 2 2012, 06:16 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 1 2012, 11:21 PM)...   Feb 2 2012, 06:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Mwa ha, it's all part of my plan to make you h...   Feb 2 2012, 08:11 PM
- - The Jake   Damn. Was afraid you'd say that. Ho hum. Oh we...   Feb 2 2012, 10:24 PM
- - Neraph   You misunderstand me. When I'm happy I'm m...   Feb 3 2012, 07:28 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Crap. I'd better change my plan then. Are you...   Feb 3 2012, 10:53 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 3 2012, 04:53 PM)...   Feb 6 2012, 05:06 PM
- - The Jopp   I had a magician in a short lived game who had two...   Feb 7 2012, 08:40 AM


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