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Savar
post Feb 20 2012, 02:56 PM
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Okay I am still trying to learn some of the nuances of 4th ed skills
in previous versions of SR Etiquette REQUIRED specialized but 4th dose not ?

the other question is Artisan skill. The basic skill seams a little All Encompassing?
or should it be specialized also ?
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- Savar   Artisan and Etiquette   Feb 20 2012, 02:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Artisan is basically useless, so it's usually ...   Feb 20 2012, 03:06 PM
- - Savar   okay, its just if you wanted to make a Singer or a...   Feb 20 2012, 03:11 PM
- - Neraph   I think the safe way to House-Rule Artisan is like...   Feb 20 2012, 05:48 PM
- - Glyph   Artisan is a skill meant to represent people who a...   Feb 20 2012, 06:04 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 20 2012, 07:04 PM) One...   Feb 20 2012, 07:13 PM
- - SpellBinder   In some of the other gaming circles a friend does ...   Feb 20 2012, 08:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's only required for … well, Artisanal modif...   Feb 20 2012, 08:30 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 20 2012, 04:30 PM...   Feb 20 2012, 08:32 PM
- - Glyph   Etiquette is a general skill of "fitting in...   Feb 20 2012, 08:57 PM
- - Mercer   If Artisan had some sort of component where a cert...   Feb 20 2012, 10:16 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Mercer @ Feb 20 2012, 11:16 PM) Th...   Feb 20 2012, 11:29 PM
- - Critias   While that might be a fun house rule for a rockerb...   Feb 20 2012, 11:46 PM
- - Mercer   It's not my suggestion, only a thought experim...   Feb 21 2012, 03:57 AM
- - UmaroVI   Really, it's that the divide should be between...   Feb 21 2012, 04:22 AM
- - Midas   QUOTE (Savar @ Feb 20 2012, 02:56 PM) Oka...   Feb 21 2012, 05:47 AM
- - Mercer   I think it should be specified (for fluff reasons ...   Feb 21 2012, 05:58 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   For the few characters that actually take the Skil...   Feb 21 2012, 03:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Midas, if you're going to let them be ...   Feb 21 2012, 04:20 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 21 2012, 09:20 AM...   Feb 21 2012, 05:40 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 21 2012, 04:20 PM...   Feb 22 2012, 07:37 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Cuz Forgery is a different skill. Really though,...   Feb 22 2012, 02:41 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 22 2012, 09:41 AM...   Feb 22 2012, 04:35 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 22 2012, 02:41 PM...   Feb 23 2012, 06:18 AM
- - SpellBinder   The problem with that that some people have is som...   Feb 22 2012, 07:54 PM
|- - bibliophile20   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Feb 22 2012, 02:54 P...   Feb 22 2012, 09:59 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Feb 22 2012, 08:54 P...   Feb 22 2012, 10:06 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (snowRaven @ Feb 22 2012, 10:06 PM)...   Feb 23 2012, 06:32 AM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Midas @ Feb 23 2012, 07:32 AM) I t...   Feb 23 2012, 08:26 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (snowRaven @ Feb 23 2012, 08:26 PM)...   Feb 27 2012, 07:34 AM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Midas @ Feb 27 2012, 08:34 AM) Whi...   Feb 27 2012, 10:24 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Right. There would be abuse potential if (a) that ...   Feb 22 2012, 08:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think that's exactly the point, Midas: ...   Feb 23 2012, 12:34 PM
- - Mercer   I find the idea that a character would have ...   Feb 23 2012, 12:46 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   I would cap the artisan skill dice with the level ...   Feb 23 2012, 01:31 PM
- - Yerameyahu   A rock front man shouldn't be dancing, anyway....   Feb 23 2012, 01:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 23 2012, 06:47 AM...   Feb 23 2012, 04:10 PM
- - Mercer   But what if he has the moves like Jagger?   Feb 23 2012, 05:40 PM
- - Critias   I don't think it's really fair to claim th...   Feb 23 2012, 10:20 PM
- - pbangarth   I see where you are coming from, snowRaven, and ca...   Feb 23 2012, 11:01 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Feb 24 2012, 12:01 AM)...   Feb 23 2012, 11:47 PM
- - Savar   heh, busking, Artisan(mime) and Etiquette(street)...   Feb 23 2012, 11:33 PM
- - Mercer   Considering that art is subjective there probably ...   Feb 24 2012, 02:35 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That seems simply crazy, though. All skills repres...   Feb 24 2012, 02:58 AM
- - Mercer   The problem being in this particular area, it...   Feb 24 2012, 04:37 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't think Artisan has anything to do with ...   Feb 24 2012, 04:39 AM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 24 2012, 05:39 AM...   Feb 24 2012, 08:47 AM
- - Glyph   If you want to be a "successful" artist ...   Feb 24 2012, 05:07 AM
- - Mercer   The last two (popularity or price tag) are arbitra...   Feb 24 2012, 06:21 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Mercer @ Feb 24 2012, 07:21 PM) Th...   Feb 24 2012, 07:23 PM
- - Jet   It's a whole wierd can of worms (or is it wyrm...   Feb 26 2012, 04:55 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jet @ Feb 25 2012, 09:55 PM) It...   Feb 26 2012, 03:16 PM
- - Jet   Oh sorry P.S. a lot of artists of all types don...   Feb 26 2012, 04:59 AM
- - Mercer   For performers, Charisma would probably play a rol...   Feb 26 2012, 10:50 AM
- - Mercer   I'm not sure why the table in the book is so o...   Feb 27 2012, 10:21 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Mercer @ Feb 27 2012, 11:21 PM) I...   Feb 27 2012, 10:50 PM
- - Yerameyahu   True, but… relevant?   Feb 27 2012, 10:25 PM
|- - Mercer   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 27 2012, 11:25 PM...   Feb 27 2012, 11:08 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Honestly, it doesn't. That limit mostly just h...   Feb 27 2012, 11:05 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 27 2012, 11:05 PM...   Feb 28 2012, 06:03 AM
- - Yerameyahu   As long as we agree that Artisan is a 'technic...   Feb 27 2012, 11:30 PM
- - Glyph   Not every great artist is going to be commercially...   Feb 28 2012, 02:44 AM
- - Midas   @Snowraven Well argued, I see now why you think sk...   Feb 28 2012, 05:56 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Midas @ Feb 27 2012, 10:56 PM) @Sn...   Feb 28 2012, 03:14 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2012, 03...   Feb 29 2012, 06:36 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Midas @ Feb 28 2012, 11:36 PM) The...   Feb 29 2012, 07:16 PM
|- - Midas   Double post, sorry!   Feb 29 2012, 06:36 AM
- - Kolinho   I'd have thought that using Artisan as a base ...   Feb 28 2012, 12:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Maybe so, Midas, but that's the opposite of th...   Feb 28 2012, 12:37 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 28 2012, 12:37 PM...   Feb 29 2012, 06:22 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Keep hammering on that drum, TJ.   Feb 28 2012, 03:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 28 2012, 08:32 AM...   Feb 28 2012, 04:18 PM
|- - Kolinho   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 28 2012, 04...   Feb 28 2012, 04:37 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Then house rule that no skills can be over...   Feb 28 2012, 04:41 PM
|- - Kolinho   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 28 2012, 04:41 PM...   Feb 28 2012, 04:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm a proponent of skill ranks being re-scaled...   Feb 28 2012, 05:11 PM
|- - Kolinho   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 28 2012, 05:11 PM...   Feb 28 2012, 05:15 PM
- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Midas @ Feb 28 2012, 06:56 AM) @Sn...   Feb 28 2012, 08:03 PM
- - Glyph   A skill of 6 is not legendary. A 7 is "best ...   Feb 29 2012, 02:58 AM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 29 2012, 02:58 AM) A s...   Feb 29 2012, 07:32 AM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 29 2012, 03:58 AM) A s...   Feb 29 2012, 09:06 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (snowRaven @ Feb 29 2012, 01:06 PM)...   Mar 1 2012, 02:54 AM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 1 2012, 03:54 AM) I ki...   Mar 1 2012, 05:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Most people don't agree.   Feb 29 2012, 09:06 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 29 2012, 02:06 PM...   Mar 1 2012, 02:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Those are simply unrelated issues, TJ. You're ...   Mar 1 2012, 03:30 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 29 2012, 08:30 PM...   Mar 1 2012, 05:38 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I was calling 'excellent' a 5, but yes.   Mar 1 2012, 05:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not my fault if the player simply failed ...   Mar 1 2012, 05:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 10:57 AM)...   Mar 1 2012, 06:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's actually not the point I was making. It...   Mar 1 2012, 10:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 03:04 PM)...   Mar 1 2012, 10:07 PM
|- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 11:04 PM)...   Mar 1 2012, 10:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The only one of those that seems relevant is the r...   Mar 1 2012, 10:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 03:16 PM)...   Mar 1 2012, 10:27 PM
- - snowRaven   What really matters, though, is when you have numb...   Mar 1 2012, 10:41 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 1 2012, 03:41 PM) ...   Mar 1 2012, 10:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't think anyone's surprised that an o...   Mar 1 2012, 10:48 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 03:48 PM)...   Mar 1 2012, 11:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   He's provably not. In basically every measurab...   Mar 1 2012, 11:11 PM
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