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So as it is, Shadowrun damage in the hands of "average" people is not a very scary prospect, even if you don't have any armor. Consider an untrained person firing a light pistol at point blank range (3 agi, -1 untrained, +2 point blank) at me, an average person with 3 rea, 3 body (10 Physical Condition Monitor boxes). Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they got 4 successes and I got none on my Reaction test, then utterly failed my Body test to soak the damage. With a light pistol (4P) and under the most favorable circumstances, this person *still* only got 8 boxes of damage, which is completely non-life-threatening.

At risk of sounding like a "realist", average people are killed by 9mm pistols in the hands of untrained assailants on occasion (and often accidentally). I'm not looking to completely mirror reality here, but it seems a bit off to me that under the best of circumstances an untrained person cannot kill, or at least incapacitate, an average person with a light pistol.

I considered instantiating bleeding damage for any hit that does > 1/2 condition monitor, implemented in a way similar to when one's damage exceeds the condition monitor (SR4a, p.163) but figured that might require a little too much bookkeeping, especially for NPCs.

I've also played - gasp! - Savage Worlds, where being hit *could* be a scary prospect as weapon damage dice explode and a very lucky dice roll could potentially drop you in one hit. A little too spiky and unreliable for my taste, but it did have the desired effect of making people try very hard not to be hit.

A comfortable median would be ideal...anyone here implement custom house rules to make damage a little scarier when facing mooks? I'd appreciate any feedback.
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- counterveil   Making damage spikier?   Apr 10 2012, 07:20 PM
- - VykosDarkSoul   but you forgot that your average joe can shoot twi...   Apr 10 2012, 08:03 PM
- - thorya   Most gunshot wounds from a single 9 mm are not fat...   Apr 10 2012, 08:30 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (thorya @ Apr 10 2012, 02:30 PM) Mo...   Apr 11 2012, 05:19 AM
- - almost normal   SR has a suggestion to make all weapons a flat +2D...   Apr 10 2012, 08:34 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (almost normal @ Apr 10 2012, 01:34...   Apr 10 2012, 09:47 PM
- - counterveil   Thanks for the replies folks! thorya, you...   Apr 10 2012, 09:01 PM
- - Chainsaw Samurai   For starters "only 8P which isn't life th...   Apr 10 2012, 09:42 PM
- - Chainsaw Samurai   Disclaimer: I don't think realism belongs in ...   Apr 10 2012, 09:57 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 10 2012, 03...   Apr 10 2012, 10:02 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 10 2012, 02...   Apr 10 2012, 10:12 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 10 2012, 10...   Apr 11 2012, 05:27 AM
- - counterveil   chainsaw samurai, agreed on the reality bit - I...   Apr 10 2012, 11:08 PM
- - Chainsaw Samurai   QUOTE The Armor adds to damage resistance when pen...   Apr 11 2012, 12:52 AM
- - VykosDarkSoul   I think they went over that rather well however. I...   Apr 11 2012, 04:55 AM
- - Chainsaw Samurai   QUOTE That's the wrong attitude. "Realism...   Apr 11 2012, 05:45 AM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 11 2012, 06...   Apr 11 2012, 06:54 AM
- - The Jopp   Well, I would not make the weapons 'deadlier...   Apr 11 2012, 07:36 AM
- - Psikerlord   Also you can use the serious wounds damage rule fr...   Apr 11 2012, 10:02 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 11 2012, 10:02 AM...   Apr 11 2012, 11:23 AM
|- - Dr.Rockso   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 11 2012, 05:02 AM...   Apr 12 2012, 07:54 PM
- - Warlordtheft   My 0.02 nuyen: The game is deadly as is. THough y...   Apr 11 2012, 06:13 PM
- - The Jopp   A good post above. Limit gear to what is plausibl...   Apr 11 2012, 08:15 PM
|- - Chainsaw Samurai   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 11 2012, 01:15 PM) ...   Apr 11 2012, 10:30 PM
|- - Halinn   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 12 2012, 12...   Apr 11 2012, 10:59 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Halinn @ Apr 11 2012, 06:59 PM) Or...   Apr 12 2012, 08:58 PM
|- - Chainsaw Samurai   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Apr 12 2012, 12:58 ...   Apr 12 2012, 10:19 PM
|- - VykosDarkSoul   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 12 2012, 05...   Apr 12 2012, 11:15 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Apr 12 2012, 06...   Apr 13 2012, 01:34 PM
- - Halinn   Don't forget to change which type of sport you...   Apr 13 2012, 11:24 AM
- - Psikerlord   We have banned PPP and Form fitting armour in our ...   Apr 13 2012, 11:25 AM
|- - Chainsaw Samurai   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 13 2012, 03:25 AM...   Apr 13 2012, 06:45 PM
- - Udoshi   If you wanted a 'punchier guns' type thing...   Apr 13 2012, 05:53 PM
- - thorya   Another idea, it adds more rolling to combat which...   Apr 13 2012, 06:29 PM
- - snowRaven   Pg. 75 in SR4A has optional rules - these may be o...   Apr 13 2012, 10:51 PM


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