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post May 21 2012, 01:17 AM
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I've been thinking about how battle rifles basically make it pretty much pointless to get the assault rifles... as they're strictly better. Then the idea struck me... since they enjoy sporting rifle ranges and calibre while also enjoying the full-auto abilities of assault rifles... why not merge them in a wierd way with the in-game skills.

Put simply... the character uses the LOWER of his automatics or longarms skills. He effectively needs both skills to use the weapons to their full potential. (the classic buy only automatics and maybe pistols gunbunnies... will have trouble with that, while the less min-maxed guys with the weapon groups will make out nicely).

Thoughts...


A similar idea could be put towards SMGs... if used single handed--- use the worse of the automatics or pistols skill. It helps limit the classic automatics as the one true gun skill which you never need any other if it only fully applies to machine-pistols and assault rifles.
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- Falconer   Battle Rifles - A balance idea   May 21 2012, 01:17 AM
- - Hida Tsuzua   Automatics is already a pretty beastly skill with ...   May 21 2012, 04:14 PM
- - Darksong   The other idea I'd been toying with is having ...   May 21 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Personally, pistols, Rifles, SMG's, Assault ri...   May 21 2012, 05:10 PM
- - almost normal   Battle rifles aren't better, they fill a diffe...   May 21 2012, 05:22 PM
- - Umidori   I've personally experimented a little with sev...   May 21 2012, 06:06 PM
- - Hida Tsuzua   With the Arsensal rules, it's not hard to get ...   May 21 2012, 07:02 PM
- - Umidori   The point I was making is that allowing either Pis...   May 21 2012, 08:11 PM
|- - Hida Tsuzua   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 21 2012, 08:11 PM) T...   May 21 2012, 09:23 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Hida Tsuzua @ May 21 2012, 03:23 P...   May 21 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Hida Tsuzua   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 21 2012, 10:43 PM) I...   May 21 2012, 11:35 PM
- - Umidori   On a different not, does anyone else get annoyed b...   May 21 2012, 08:44 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 21 2012, 04:44 PM) (...   May 21 2012, 08:59 PM
- - UmaroVI   The single biggest selling point for Machine Pisto...   May 21 2012, 09:01 PM
- - Umidori   @UmaroVI Quite right - it's far easier to get...   May 21 2012, 09:31 PM
- - Falconer   I think some get the point exactly... the one gent...   May 22 2012, 12:20 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 21 2012, 08:20 PM) ...   May 22 2012, 12:38 PM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 22 2012, 07:38 ...   May 22 2012, 04:16 PM
- - Daylen   How to balance Battle Rifles? Easy, use recoil, co...   May 22 2012, 01:57 AM
- - Falconer   Daylen... really... Lets pull out a very basic ex...   May 22 2012, 02:16 AM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 22 2012, 02:16 AM) ...   May 24 2012, 02:42 AM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Daylen @ May 21 2012, 08:57 PM) Ho...   May 24 2012, 08:44 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 24 2012, 09:44 PM) ...   May 25 2012, 02:11 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Daylen @ May 24 2012, 10:11 PM) 1....   May 25 2012, 12:51 PM
- - almost normal   Double post.   May 22 2012, 04:32 PM
- - almost normal   To back up Thorya, I tend to fire the MP-5 from th...   May 22 2012, 04:32 PM
- - Umidori   For the sake of theorycrafting, how would that be ...   May 22 2012, 10:09 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Well, if you take weight and encumbrance out of th...   May 24 2012, 07:59 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ May 24 2012, 02:59 ...   May 24 2012, 08:32 PM
- - Falconer   Daylen... if you think that is a straw man then yo...   May 25 2012, 02:56 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 24 2012, 10:56 PM) ...   May 25 2012, 12:59 PM
|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 25 2012, 12:59 ...   May 26 2012, 12:35 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Daylen @ May 25 2012, 07:35 PM) Fu...   May 31 2012, 07:11 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 31 2012, 12:11 ...   May 31 2012, 07:40 PM
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|- - Daylen   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 25 2012, 06:11 PM) ...   May 26 2012, 12:45 AM
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|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 26 2012, 12:09 AM) ...   May 31 2012, 07:14 PM
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||- - CanRay   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jun 3 2012, 06:04 AM) ...   Jun 3 2012, 02:58 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 2 2012, 12:35 PM) Rep...   Jun 5 2012, 05:28 PM
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