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forgarn
post May 25 2012, 05:19 PM
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I need some clarification on these rules. The WAR book clearly contradicts itself. On the High-Powered Ammo, it states " High-power rounds
inflict a –2 dice pool penalty when fired due to excess recoil." I have some people telling me that because it is a dice pool penalty that I cannot mitigate this with RC. But the description clearly states that it is due to recoil, so additional recoil compensation should reduce this penalty.

Which is correct? Can it be reduced with additional recoil comp?
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- forgarn   High-Powered Chambering and ammo   May 25 2012, 05:19 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   We allow that High-Recoil Penalty to be reduced by...   May 25 2012, 05:38 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 25 2012, 01...   May 25 2012, 08:06 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 25 2012, 02:06 P...   May 25 2012, 08:33 PM
- - Falconer   I've had it run against me the other way. Re...   May 25 2012, 05:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 25 2012, 11:47 AM) ...   May 25 2012, 06:58 PM
- - forgarn   Well, I was hoping for a more definitive answer, b...   May 25 2012, 07:24 PM
- - Umidori   I think your primary problem is that you're us...   May 25 2012, 08:08 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 25 2012, 04:08 PM) I...   May 25 2012, 08:09 PM
- - Umidori   Recoil is the force exerted on the weapon and the ...   May 25 2012, 08:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 25 2012, 02:54 PM) R...   May 25 2012, 10:02 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 25 2012, 03...   May 25 2012, 11:36 PM
- - Falconer   TJ: I know you know it's cumulative. But ESPE...   May 25 2012, 09:40 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 25 2012, 05:40 PM) ...   May 25 2012, 09:53 PM
- - Falconer   Excellent catch Pax... but I am being consistent ...   May 25 2012, 10:08 PM
- - _Pax._   The thing is, Falconer ... either the -2 from High...   May 25 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Falconer   Pax... recoil is refreshed at the end of each *IP*...   May 25 2012, 10:58 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 25 2012, 06:58 PM) ...   May 25 2012, 11:22 PM
- - FriendoftheDork   Whatever the writer intended, it clearly states yo...   May 26 2012, 01:13 AM
- - Umidori   You're right, rules wise it is a two-round nar...   May 26 2012, 01:29 AM
- - Falconer   Pax: say whatever you want... the rest of your pos...   May 26 2012, 05:35 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 26 2012, 01:35 AM) ...   May 26 2012, 07:05 AM
- - Medicineman   It says ( translated from Page 173 German Frontei...   May 26 2012, 06:42 AM
- - Falconer   Pax: I'm done trying to educate you. You...   May 26 2012, 09:49 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 26 2012, 05:49 AM) ...   May 26 2012, 01:04 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 26 2012, 05:49 AM) ...   May 31 2012, 05:14 PM
- - Shortstraw   Pax, Falconer I believe this is appropriate to the...   May 26 2012, 01:38 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE Medicine: Please cite it... assault cannons ...   May 26 2012, 02:20 PM
|- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 26 2012, 04:20 P...   May 26 2012, 02:47 PM
- - Falconer   Medicine: Don't worry about it... it became ...   May 26 2012, 03:42 PM
- - Umidori   QUOTE (SR4A @ p.153)Semi-Automatic Mode Gun...   May 26 2012, 05:35 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 26 2012, 10:35 AM) T...   May 26 2012, 06:18 PM
- - Umidori   Because the High Power Ammunition ruling is so bla...   May 26 2012, 07:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 26 2012, 01:04 PM) B...   May 26 2012, 07:41 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE Why is that so diffidult? The Modifier can o...   May 26 2012, 07:57 PM
- - Vilda   Dice pool or recoil penalty, RAWs clearly states ...   May 26 2012, 08:14 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Vilda @ May 26 2012, 03:14 PM) Dic...   May 26 2012, 08:37 PM
|- - Vilda   QUOTE (Medicineman @ May 26 2012, 10:37 P...   May 26 2012, 08:46 PM
- - Umidori   You're going to say that "War!",...   May 26 2012, 09:44 PM
|- - Vilda   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 26 2012, 11:44 PM) Y...   May 26 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Umidori   The best reading of what is written there may inde...   May 26 2012, 10:53 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I, personally, think that it's meant to be a s...   May 27 2012, 12:01 AM
- - Umidori   My point exactly. ~Umi   May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
- - Warlordtheft   Going by the path of least modifying of the rules,...   May 29 2012, 05:40 PM
- - Shortstraw   I would look to the PJSS Elephant Rifle as firing ...   May 30 2012, 04:27 AM
- - Umidori   I disagree with comparing it to a more powerful ro...   May 30 2012, 09:30 AM
- - _Pax._   Also, no the PJSS is not firing both barrels at th...   May 30 2012, 09:46 AM
- - Shortstraw   Yes, in real life there would be delay however the...   May 30 2012, 09:55 AM
- - _Pax._   Or perhaps when the rules say "at once",...   May 30 2012, 10:27 AM
- - ikarinokami   Speaking just as a lawyer, i dont fire guns, but i...   May 30 2012, 04:28 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (ikarinokami @ May 30 2012, 11:28 A...   May 30 2012, 06:28 PM
- - Umidori   Well lawyers DO handle poor wording on a regular b...   May 30 2012, 06:11 PM
- - Umidori   Arguably that "additional" could be impl...   May 30 2012, 06:41 PM
|- - ikarinokami   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 01:41 PM) A...   May 30 2012, 07:19 PM
- - _Pax._   Eh. I'd say that was stretching the point a f...   May 30 2012, 07:11 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ May 30 2012, 01:11 PM) It...   May 30 2012, 07:58 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 01:58 PM) A...   May 30 2012, 08:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 01:58 PM) E...   May 30 2012, 08:22 PM
||- - Vilda   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 30 2012, 10...   May 30 2012, 11:28 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 03:58 PM) E...   May 30 2012, 08:31 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ May 30 2012, 02:31 PM) Um...   May 30 2012, 08:57 PM
- - Umidori   You may not have a problem with it Vilda, but I ce...   May 31 2012, 12:51 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 05:51 PM) Y...   May 31 2012, 01:40 AM
||- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 30 2012, 09...   May 31 2012, 02:23 PM
||- - Umidori   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 30 2012, 07...   May 31 2012, 04:45 PM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 30 2012, 07:51 PM) Y...   May 31 2012, 03:08 AM
|- - Shortstraw   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 31 2012, 01:08 PM) ...   May 31 2012, 10:47 AM
- - Yerameyahu   The primary concern is just 'does this rule pu...   May 31 2012, 01:42 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Color me a bit confused there Yerameyahu... Huh? ...   May 31 2012, 01:45 AM
- - Yerameyahu   My point is that, if you *want* the mechanics of ...   May 31 2012, 01:50 AM
- - KarmaInferno   It's "not clear" in that it presents...   May 31 2012, 05:11 AM
- - Falconer   Shortstraw... I'd multiply the cost of any am...   May 31 2012, 01:45 PM
- - Shortstraw   The high power mod does not restrict the weapon ty...   May 31 2012, 02:06 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ May 31 2012, 09:06 AM...   May 31 2012, 03:12 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ May 31 2012, 08:12 AM) A ...   May 31 2012, 03:35 PM
- - _Pax._   Or worse: applying it to a LASER weapon ...   May 31 2012, 03:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ May 31 2012, 08:59 AM) Or...   May 31 2012, 04:04 PM
- - Umidori   "Oh, but you could TOTALLY have a high powere...   May 31 2012, 04:51 PM
- - _Pax._   To sum up Umidori's 12:45 post: "If a co...   May 31 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Are you being sarcastic, Umidori? Because that...   May 31 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Umidori   Except that lasers do not and cannot recoil. *fac...   May 31 2012, 04:56 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Actually, Occams Razor favors the wording of the r...   May 31 2012, 05:18 PM
|- - almost normal   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 31 2012, 12...   May 31 2012, 05:22 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (almost normal @ May 31 2012, 10:22...   May 31 2012, 05:33 PM
||- - Umidori   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 31 2012, 10...   May 31 2012, 05:46 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 31 2012, 10...   May 31 2012, 05:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ May 31 2012, 10:32 AM) T...   May 31 2012, 05:44 PM
- - almost normal   Yeah, that's my question to you Ty. Would you ...   May 31 2012, 05:36 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (almost normal @ May 31 2012, 10:36...   May 31 2012, 05:45 PM
- - almost normal   To politely interject, when fired is a bit ambiguo...   May 31 2012, 05:47 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (almost normal @ May 31 2012, 12:47...   May 31 2012, 06:23 PM
- - Ears   "High-power rounds inflict a -2 dice pool pen...   May 31 2012, 06:19 PM
- - almost normal   Ears, I love you.   May 31 2012, 06:20 PM
- - ZeroPoint   HAH, I was just considering the many different pos...   May 31 2012, 06:28 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (ZeroPoint @ May 31 2012, 02:28 PM)...   May 31 2012, 06:49 PM
- - Umidori   Pax and Almost Normal actually agreeing with somet...   May 31 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE the bit about the high powered mod stating t...   May 31 2012, 06:53 PM
- - Umidori   You've had a lawyer, a professional who deals ...   May 31 2012, 07:27 PM
- - almost normal   I dunno about you mooks, but I started drinking an...   May 31 2012, 07:51 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (almost normal @ May 31 2012, 12:51...   May 31 2012, 08:01 PM
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