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post Jun 10 2012, 10:18 PM
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I'd very much like your oppinion on the following question:

Which type of character is generally more useful in an initially 400BP game. The Magician or the Mystic Adept?

The reason I'm asking, is because I'm sitting and trying to create a character for a new game, and I'm having a bit of trouble trying to decide whether to go for a Mystic Adept, or a full Magician. Basically I can't decide right now if the access to the astral space is worth an additional 5BP, and the loss of access to the Adept Powers. What are your oppinions on this people? And why?

The game starts tomorrow evening (June 11th), so quick replies are needed.

[Edit: SR4A rules]


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- Kyrel   Need your oppinion   Jun 10 2012, 10:18 PM
- - UmaroVI   Whether mystic adepts are useful in the first plac...   Jun 10 2012, 10:38 PM
- - Neraph   I prefer Mystic Adepts to the point where if I pla...   Jun 10 2012, 11:07 PM
- - DireRadiant   If you can only have one, a Full Magician because ...   Jun 11 2012, 07:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Honestly, it seems so incredibly inconvenient to g...   Jun 11 2012, 08:09 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   More often than not, I choose Mystic Adept over th...   Jun 11 2012, 08:25 PM
- - Krishach   in addition to being personal preference, in my op...   Jun 11 2012, 08:33 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Krishach @ Jun 11 2012, 09:33 PM) ...   Jun 11 2012, 10:43 PM
- - Samoth   Mystic Adept always made more sense to me because ...   Jun 11 2012, 08:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Samoth @ Jun 11 2012, 02:42 PM) My...   Jun 11 2012, 09:17 PM
- - Kyrel   Thanks for the different comments people. I'v...   Jun 11 2012, 09:54 PM
- - Umidori   It's in the forbidden book - "War!...   Jun 11 2012, 11:03 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Basically, it's absurd.   Jun 11 2012, 11:12 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 12:12 AM...   Jun 12 2012, 07:52 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jun 12 2012, 12:52 AM...   Jun 12 2012, 01:05 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 12 2012, 08...   Jun 12 2012, 01:15 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 12 2012, 09...   Jun 12 2012, 05:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jun 12 2012, 10:53 ...   Jun 12 2012, 07:50 PM
|- - VykosDarkSoul   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jun 12 2012, 12:53 ...   Jun 12 2012, 08:35 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Jun 12 2012, 01:35...   Jun 12 2012, 09:39 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Jun 12 2012, 02:35...   Jun 12 2012, 11:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jun 12 2012, 05:16 PM) ....   Jun 13 2012, 01:39 PM
- - Umidori   A pixie with Body 1, Willpower 12, and Mind Over M...   Jun 11 2012, 11:19 PM
- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Kyrel @ Jun 10 2012, 06:18 PM) Whi...   Jun 11 2012, 11:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   … It's clearly not 'neither'.   Jun 12 2012, 12:10 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 01:10 AM...   Jun 12 2012, 07:50 AM
- - Irion   Depends on how you handle the thing with the split...   Jun 12 2012, 08:28 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Aerospider, that's not 'on the contrary...   Jun 12 2012, 01:13 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 02:13 PM...   Jun 12 2012, 02:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   MRSI is one of the exemplar *good* things?   Jun 12 2012, 01:39 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 06:39 AM...   Jun 12 2012, 01:41 PM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 01:39 PM...   Jun 12 2012, 03:19 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 12 2012, 08:19 AM) Loo...   Jun 12 2012, 04:23 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You didn't read. It *can't* be both, but ...   Jun 12 2012, 02:26 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 07:26 AM...   Jun 12 2012, 02:53 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 12 2012, 03:26 PM...   Jun 12 2012, 03:28 PM
- - Irion   @Tymeaus Jalynsfein The problem is, if you add add...   Jun 12 2012, 05:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 12 2012, 10:15 AM) @Ty...   Jun 12 2012, 05:26 PM
- - Umidori   Not like a Pixie typically wears armor anyways... ...   Jun 12 2012, 08:26 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jun 12 2012, 03:26 PM) N...   Jun 12 2012, 08:57 PM
|- - Elfenlied   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Jun 12 2012, 08:57 PM) Se...   Jun 12 2012, 09:03 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jun 12 2012, 04:03 PM)...   Jun 12 2012, 10:11 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Jun 12 2012, 03:11 PM) Um...   Jun 12 2012, 10:16 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 12 2012, 07...   Jun 13 2012, 02:13 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jun 12 2012, 08:13 PM) Le...   Jun 13 2012, 01:43 PM
- - Umidori   So a combined body and armor of 6 versus a straigh...   Jun 12 2012, 09:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   More possession silliness?   Jun 12 2012, 10:18 PM
- - Falconer   Well any player who tried to abuse shade like this...   Jun 13 2012, 02:18 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 12 2012, 09:18 PM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 03:30 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 12 2012, 08:18 PM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 01:49 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 13 2012, 08...   Jun 13 2012, 01:56 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jun 13 2012, 07:56 AM) Fi...   Jun 13 2012, 02:19 PM
- - Umidori   Falconer, the Shade ruling specifically states tha...   Jun 13 2012, 02:52 AM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE Let's ignore MRSI's use by archers o...   Jun 13 2012, 03:14 AM
- - Falconer   No, it's based on actually seeing it abused ba...   Jun 13 2012, 04:08 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 12 2012, 11:08 PM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 05:01 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno what 'semantics' is supposed to me...   Jun 13 2012, 04:08 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Why? The whole point is a tradeoff, not to beat th...   Jun 13 2012, 05:12 AM
- - Falconer   Since you're obviously not thinking this throu...   Jun 13 2012, 05:23 AM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 13 2012, 12:23 AM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 11:37 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 13 2012, 12:23 AM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 01:48 PM
||- - Midas   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jun 13 2012, 02:48 PM) An...   Jun 14 2012, 04:05 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 12 2012, 11:23 PM) ...   Jun 13 2012, 02:16 PM
- - Irion   And do not forget: Throw in at least two points of...   Jun 13 2012, 05:54 AM
- - Midas   Because they have access to both Mage and Adept wo...   Jun 13 2012, 06:07 AM
- - Irion   @Midas Exactly thats the point. It tepends on how ...   Jun 13 2012, 06:10 AM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 13 2012, 07:10 AM) @Mi...   Jun 13 2012, 07:24 AM
- - Irion   @Midas Making an example. There is a rule, that yo...   Jun 13 2012, 08:12 AM
- - Thanee   What you are talking about here is very high-level...   Jun 13 2012, 09:05 AM
- - Irion   @Thanee Yes, you do not start there and you maybe ...   Jun 13 2012, 09:16 AM
- - Thanee   Yep, and that surely is something one should be aw...   Jun 13 2012, 10:25 AM
- - Irion   @_Pax._ Yes, it only works with optional rules. A ...   Jun 13 2012, 12:14 PM
|- - _Pax._   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 13 2012, 08:14 AM) It ...   Jun 13 2012, 12:34 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 13 2012, 01:14 PM) If ...   Jun 14 2012, 03:44 AM
- - Irion   @_Pax._ The point is, you take the best of the two...   Jun 13 2012, 01:34 PM
- - _Pax._   Have to agree about not letting someone use the ...   Jun 13 2012, 06:35 PM
- - Falconer   I've voiced my objection on that last bit... b...   Jun 13 2012, 10:47 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 13 2012, 04:47 PM) ...   Jun 14 2012, 02:20 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 13 2012, 11:47 PM) ...   Jun 14 2012, 10:11 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jun 14 2012, 03:11 AM...   Jun 14 2012, 12:52 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 14 2012, 01...   Jun 15 2012, 10:25 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jun 15 2012, 03:25 AM...   Jun 15 2012, 01:20 PM
- - Falconer   You know something... it's not in SR4a now... ...   Jun 14 2012, 02:37 AM
- - Umidori   I can't think of any good reasons why adepts s...   Jun 14 2012, 02:39 AM
- - Falconer   Spell locks (sustaining foci) have never in any ed...   Jun 14 2012, 02:52 AM
- - Neraph   ... and then to the focus that the adept has.   Jun 14 2012, 02:56 AM
- - Falconer   No Neraph... the adept CANNOT activate a sustainin...   Jun 14 2012, 03:17 AM
- - Falconer   Actually in this case Neraph... the rules specific...   Jun 14 2012, 05:14 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 13 2012, 11:14 PM) ...   Jun 14 2012, 12:48 PM
- - Irion   @Midas QUOTE he will still be behind the curve vis...   Jun 14 2012, 05:31 AM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 14 2012, 06:31 AM) @Mi...   Jun 14 2012, 07:26 AM
- - Irion   @Midas QUOTE Either way, this is beside the point....   Jun 14 2012, 09:17 AM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 14 2012, 10:17 AM) @Mi...   Jun 15 2012, 09:59 AM
- - Irion   @Midas QUOTE Not sure what you are saying here ......   Jun 15 2012, 02:03 PM
|- - Midas   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 15 2012, 03:03 PM) @Mi...   Jun 16 2012, 08:02 AM
- - Irion   @Midas The problem is, it is not really a big limi...   Jun 16 2012, 10:05 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Which are all viable character options to play. Th...   Jun 16 2012, 05:37 PM
- - Midas   Irion, You seem to be strongly opposed to awaken...   Jun 18 2012, 09:23 AM
- - Irion   @Midas No, I am not opposed to this option. The po...   Jun 18 2012, 09:34 AM
- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 18 2012, 10:34 AM) @Mi...   Jun 18 2012, 10:21 AM
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