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tete
post Sep 28 2012, 05:09 AM
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So Sunday I get to start a new campaign. I have 2 old timers, 2 sometimers (3e & 4e) and 2 noobs. 2e is my favorite edition but im currious abut giving 4e/2050 the old college try. I think that the matrix rules look slightly friendlier to new players, the 4e cheat sheets are awesome (again for new players), and edge > karma pool (well i had PCs with 500+ karma in the day and the KP was insane by then, caping it is not a bad thing), but it has the downsides of lack all the fun pools (combat, sorcery, etc), has overpowered mind control spells, spirits too easy to summon... For the record i dont see stat+skill or static TNs as any kind of advantage, im rather neutral on it.

So should I stick with what I know or take a chance?
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- tete   2e or 4e/2050?   Sep 28 2012, 05:09 AM
- - Thanee   QUOTE (tete @ Sep 28 2012, 07:09 AM) So s...   Sep 28 2012, 01:45 PM
- - Bigity   2E if you like the flavor of those rules. 4E if y...   Sep 28 2012, 03:24 PM
- - Medicineman   So should I stick with what I know or take a chanc...   Sep 28 2012, 03:33 PM
- - tete   I've played SR4A (and went back to 2e) just no...   Sep 28 2012, 04:06 PM
- - Thanee   What turned you off then? The game still works th...   Sep 28 2012, 04:18 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 28 2012, 04:18 PM) Wh...   Sep 28 2012, 04:48 PM
|- - Thanee   QUOTE (tete @ Sep 28 2012, 06:48 PM) turn...   Sep 28 2012, 10:47 PM
|- - faultline   QUOTE (tete @ Sep 28 2012, 09:48 AM) turn...   Sep 30 2012, 01:29 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (faultline @ Sep 30 2012, 08:29 AM)...   Oct 2 2012, 07:58 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (faultline @ Sep 30 2012, 01:29 PM)...   Oct 3 2012, 11:39 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sengir @ Oct 3 2012, 05:39 AM) Mec...   Oct 3 2012, 01:15 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 3 2012, 02...   Oct 3 2012, 04:05 PM
||- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (tete @ Oct 3 2012, 06:05 PM) This ...   Oct 4 2012, 10:04 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 3 2012, 01...   Oct 3 2012, 08:27 PM
- - Abstruse   3rd Edition. Shadowrun 2050 is a horrible product...   Sep 29 2012, 12:05 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Abstruse @ Sep 28 2012, 07:05 PM) ...   Sep 29 2012, 03:43 AM
|- - Abstruse   QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 28 2012, 09:43 PM) Cl...   Sep 29 2012, 10:33 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Abstruse @ Sep 29 2012, 05:33 PM) ...   Oct 2 2012, 12:32 AM
|- - Abstruse   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 1 2012, 06:32 PM) Wel...   Oct 2 2012, 04:50 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Abstruse @ Oct 2 2012, 09:50 AM) T...   Oct 2 2012, 05:04 PM
- - Medicineman   turn offs = pt buy...., hacking merged with riggin...   Sep 29 2012, 05:11 AM
- - Dolanar   Can't teach an Old Dog, New tricks   Sep 29 2012, 05:15 AM
- - cndblank   SR4A is MUCH easier to learn and run. The GM can ...   Sep 29 2012, 03:00 PM
- - tete   Thanks for the responses, I feel i need to clarify...   Sep 29 2012, 11:49 PM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (tete @ Sep 29 2012, 05:49 PM) Than...   Sep 30 2012, 06:22 AM
|- - tete   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Sep 30 2012, 07:22 A...   Sep 30 2012, 07:19 PM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (tete @ Sep 30 2012, 01:19 PM) Well...   Sep 30 2012, 07:23 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Sep 30 2012, 01:23 P...   Sep 30 2012, 07:45 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 30 2012, 01:45 PM) They ...   Oct 1 2012, 02:18 PM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Sep 30 2012, 03:23 P...   Sep 30 2012, 07:51 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Sep 30 2012, 07:23 P...   Sep 30 2012, 08:01 PM
- - CanRay   Desktops (Cyberterminals) can be run in "Tort...   Sep 30 2012, 02:47 AM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Sep 29 2012, 01:11 A...   Sep 30 2012, 12:40 PM
- - Abstruse   I personally like Sum to 10. More flexibility and ...   Sep 30 2012, 09:19 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Abstruse @ Sep 30 2012, 04:19 PM) ...   Oct 2 2012, 12:34 AM
- - Link   We use Sum to 10 too since 1st Ed or whenever it t...   Oct 1 2012, 02:28 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Link @ Oct 1 2012, 02:28 PM) tete,...   Oct 1 2012, 05:11 PM
- - nezumi   I also love sum-to-ten, although it's tougher ...   Oct 1 2012, 04:16 PM
- - Falconer   I agree with that sentiment Tete. I like the SR4 ...   Oct 1 2012, 11:33 PM
- - Falconer   Slightly disagree with you Bigity. It is right to...   Oct 2 2012, 06:05 AM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 2 2012, 12:05 AM) S...   Oct 2 2012, 06:28 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 2 2012, 12:05 AM) S...   Oct 2 2012, 06:58 PM
- - Patrick Goodman   QUOTE (Abstruse @ Oct 2 2012, 11:50 AM) S...   Oct 2 2012, 07:18 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Oct 2 2012, 07:1...   Oct 2 2012, 08:17 PM
- - Abstruse   From a rules-only standpoint, I honestly see Shado...   Oct 2 2012, 10:44 PM
- - kzt   SR3 didn't have absurd unstoppable magical att...   Oct 3 2012, 05:43 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (kzt @ Oct 3 2012, 12:43 AM) SR3 di...   Oct 3 2012, 05:44 AM
- - CanRay   Also, your Dobie isn't as likely to go insane ...   Oct 3 2012, 09:34 PM
- - Bigity   Yes, if you enforce it RAW, it is very limiting, e...   Oct 4 2012, 01:32 PM
- - Patrick Goodman   That's not being a dick, that's living in ...   Oct 4 2012, 02:10 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Oct 4 2012, 08:1...   Oct 4 2012, 02:14 PM
- - Falconer   Bigity... nothing in the rules says you can't ...   Oct 4 2012, 02:54 PM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 4 2012, 04:54 PM) B...   Oct 4 2012, 03:13 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 4 2012, 03:54 PM) B...   Oct 4 2012, 04:51 PM
- - Bigity   I don't understand how it's dickish. It...   Oct 4 2012, 10:54 PM
|- - All4BigGuns   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2012, 04:54 PM) I d...   Oct 5 2012, 02:02 AM
||- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (All4BigGuns @ Oct 5 2012, 04:02 AM...   Oct 5 2012, 08:02 AM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2012, 11:54 PM) I d...   Oct 5 2012, 04:53 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (tete @ Oct 4 2012, 09:53 PM) Its D...   Oct 5 2012, 01:23 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (tete @ Oct 4 2012, 10:53 PM) Its D...   Oct 5 2012, 01:49 PM
|- - tete   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 5 2012, 01:49 PM) som...   Oct 5 2012, 04:11 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (tete @ Oct 5 2012, 11:11 AM) Just ...   Oct 5 2012, 05:57 PM
- - Falconer   Tete: thanks for pointing that out... won't ma...   Oct 5 2012, 04:25 AM
- - Medicineman   It feels "dickish" to me too thats why ...   Oct 5 2012, 06:35 AM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Oct 5 2012, 08:35 AM...   Oct 5 2012, 08:34 AM
- - Medicineman   I don't need any rule to be "dickish...   Oct 5 2012, 08:17 AM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Oct 5 2012, 10:17 AM...   Oct 5 2012, 08:43 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Oct 5 2012, 01:43 AM) If,...   Oct 5 2012, 01:27 PM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 5 2012, 03...   Oct 5 2012, 02:57 PM
- - Medicineman   QUOTE I disagree with that particular point: If he...   Oct 5 2012, 10:44 AM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Oct 5 2012, 12:44 PM...   Oct 5 2012, 11:22 AM
- - nezumi   You know what else sucks? That my rigger can't...   Oct 5 2012, 01:08 PM


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