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The Jopp
post Oct 24 2012, 08:07 AM
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I've always had a problem at how arbitrary they have made numerical attributes, not just the one in this topic but also the BOD attribute. But, let’s focus on the CHARISMA value.

Trolls and Orcs have a lower INT score and CHA score because they are viewed as slower, dumber and uglier.

The CHA Attribute
Charisma, even the UGLIEST man on earth can have a charisma that would sway ANYONE to do the most despicable acts (Hitler, Pol Pot and a bunch of serial killers and other individuals).

In the case of Orcs and Trolls we have the added drawback of possible:
-Speech impediment due to tusks (lisp, mumbling etc)
-Ugly (dermal warts, neanderthal looks)

Which is hardly CHARISMA but rather LOOKS since speech impediments can be trained away and being ugly should not be an issue in 2075.

So we now have 2 Social attributes.
LOOKS and CHARISMA

BP cost for these are 5BP per point. This might sound like a form of min-maxing but that would be punished later in-game. Trolls would REALLY have problems with both LOOKS and CHA at 1.

LOOKS would affect everything in daily life - especially first impressions and how recognizable you are on the street. The LOOKS 1 Troll would often be stopped and frisked by Lonestar and easier to spot in a crowd.

CHA would affect everything as soon as they open their mouths or starts gesturing and might push people into further trouble.

So you could have a Mr.Likeable the social troll (pun not intended) but with the looks of a dumpster mated with a sewer rat but with a CHA at 7 while having LOOKS at 1.

Or the beautiful runner Hilda Sinclair with LOOKS at 7 but a CHA at 1 who is often recruited as the teams beautiful front and face…until she starts to speak with people…
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- The Jopp   The Charisma Attribute   Oct 24 2012, 08:07 AM
- - FuelDrop   My group tends to just rock with charisma for simp...   Oct 24 2012, 08:46 AM
- - Aerospider   What would it cost to hard max one of these attrib...   Oct 24 2012, 09:03 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Oct 24 2012, 09:03 AM...   Oct 24 2012, 10:35 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 24 2012, 11:35 AM) ...   Oct 24 2012, 02:50 PM
- - Midas   Yeah, I think FuelDrop has nailed it on the head r...   Oct 24 2012, 09:17 AM
- - sk8bcn   I find that charisma has a link with the way you l...   Oct 24 2012, 12:04 PM
- - Sid Nitzerglobin   You're assuming that the negatives for Trolls ...   Oct 24 2012, 02:36 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Sid Nitzerglobin @ Oct 24 2012, 02...   Oct 24 2012, 02:40 PM
|- - Sid Nitzerglobin   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 24 2012, 09:40 AM) ...   Oct 24 2012, 04:33 PM
||- - Halinn   QUOTE (Sid Nitzerglobin @ Oct 24 2012, 06...   Oct 24 2012, 04:50 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 24 2012, 08:40 AM) ...   Oct 24 2012, 09:25 PM
- - Bearclaw   Saying that being good looking doesn't help in...   Oct 24 2012, 03:49 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Oct 24 2012, 04:49 PM) ...   Oct 24 2012, 04:30 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Oct 24 2012, 11:30 AM...   Oct 24 2012, 04:48 PM
||- - Sid Nitzerglobin   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 24 2012, 11:48 AM)...   Oct 24 2012, 04:53 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Oct 24 2012, 09:30 AM...   Oct 24 2012, 11:35 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Honestly adding another attribute to the equation,...   Oct 24 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Lionhearted   In the 2070s the only measure of beauty can be fou...   Oct 24 2012, 05:58 PM
- - All4BigGuns   I used to think the way the OP does when it comes ...   Oct 24 2012, 06:02 PM
- - Halinn   Another thing to the whole 'charisma is just t...   Oct 24 2012, 09:05 PM
- - Raiden   I do not like the fact that trolls get a max of 5 ...   Oct 24 2012, 10:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You can't start dividing attributes for granul...   Oct 24 2012, 10:18 PM
|- - Halinn   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 25 2012, 12:18 AM...   Oct 24 2012, 11:26 PM
- - lorechaser   AD&D did this with the Skills & Powers boo...   Oct 25 2012, 03:07 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Remember you can use most Charisma based skills ev...   Oct 25 2012, 03:28 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Remember, in the Grim Darkness of the 2070s, even ...   Oct 25 2012, 03:34 AM
- - Krishach   I've always hated this debate in any system, b...   Oct 25 2012, 05:11 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Krishach @ Oct 25 2012, 06:11 AM) ...   Oct 25 2012, 12:51 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Oct 25 2012, 07:51 AM...   Oct 25 2012, 01:39 PM
- - Thanee   I generally like Attractiveness (and the opposite)...   Oct 25 2012, 04:39 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Thanee @ Oct 25 2012, 09:39 AM) I ...   Oct 25 2012, 05:05 PM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Oct 25 2012, 06:05 PM) ...   Oct 26 2012, 08:55 AM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 26 2012, 04:55 AM) ...   Oct 27 2012, 04:09 AM
- - Irion   Making it two attributes at the cost of 5BP: Nice ...   Oct 26 2012, 08:13 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Irion @ Oct 26 2012, 09:13 AM) Mak...   Oct 26 2012, 08:53 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Irion @ Oct 26 2012, 09:13 AM) The...   Oct 26 2012, 08:56 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 26 2012, 09:56 AM) ...   Oct 26 2012, 02:53 PM
- - Makki   isn't looks and attractiveness just a social m...   Oct 26 2012, 11:05 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Makki @ Oct 26 2012, 12:05 PM) Wha...   Oct 26 2012, 11:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 26 2012, 04:18 AM) ...   Oct 26 2012, 02:11 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 26 2012, 12:18 PM) ...   Oct 26 2012, 02:41 PM
- - KarmaInferno   As I said, it has to be purely mental, because you...   Oct 26 2012, 02:46 PM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 26 2012, 03:46 ...   Oct 27 2012, 07:48 AM
- - Aerospider   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Oct 27 2012, 08:48 AM) ...   Oct 27 2012, 10:07 AM


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