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hermit
post Apr 26 2013, 04:10 PM
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Okay, since I was bored today, I compared real fighter jets and their Shadowrun equivalents. And I noticed the prices.

... what.

An F-22 Raptor has a single unit cost of about 189.3 million USD. For that, you get a top-of-the-line 5th generation air superiority fighter. Of course, arms salers are always bulk sales, but bear with me.

In Shadowrun, used F-22 clock in at 15.5 Nuyen. You get an obsolescent craft (you can upgrade it for 1.5 million though) that has decent stats. Time is not kind to old military hardware and it's 60 years in the future, so that price drop is coneivable. Same with other planes, like the Rafale (90 mn to 7 mn), Eurofighter (117 mn to 8,9 mn) or PAK FA (57 mn to 9 mn).

However, Shadowrun's top-end air superiority fighter, the Dassault Zeta Bravo, is on sale at 3,8 million per unit. What the hell. Even if slaves developed the plane and it is built in nanoprinting shenanigans, 3.8 million for the world's standard in high-performance air supremacy? Hello? You'd get 0.02 raptors for that price when it was new, or 0.23 raptors when it is 70 years old! What is this, a fire sale for top-of-the-line fighter jets?

Was there some thought behind this, like, it's built in nanovats and was developed using only existing components and magic so it didn't end up a desaster like the F35? Or was it just a random number so PCs could afford the plane too because reasons?
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- hermit   Get your Zeta Bravo today!   Apr 26 2013, 04:10 PM
- - O'Ryan   "Ares Macrotechnology, in conjunction with Lo...   Apr 26 2013, 04:18 PM
- - hermit   Even if the US would buy the cheapest alternative,...   Apr 26 2013, 04:24 PM
- - O'Connor   Prices in SR are wonky. First, 1 nuyen does not e...   Apr 26 2013, 04:46 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE *if* a corp handled the R&D in house and...   Apr 26 2013, 05:03 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 26 2013, 11:03 AM) R...   Apr 26 2013, 05:12 PM
- - CanRay   Don't forget that militaries don't have th...   Apr 26 2013, 05:19 PM
- - hermit   I am not questioning that at all. I am questioning...   Apr 26 2013, 05:39 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   Oh, this is nothing against the B-6 LeMay from Mil...   Apr 26 2013, 05:41 PM
- - hermit   Yeah, that slipped by me. Good Ghost ... On the ot...   Apr 26 2013, 05:54 PM
- - Mantis   It isn't quite that bad. Here are the conversi...   Apr 26 2013, 09:40 PM
|- - NiL_FisK_Urd   QUOTE (Mantis @ Apr 26 2013, 09:40 PM) It...   Apr 27 2013, 08:39 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Mantis @ Apr 26 2013, 10:40 PM) I ...   Apr 27 2013, 12:54 PM
- - Ryu   Or maybe the corps are no longer allowed to put al...   Apr 27 2013, 06:29 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE It isn't quite that bad. Here are the co...   Apr 27 2013, 09:02 AM
- - Nath   Poverty Rate may not be a good indicator if, as no...   Apr 27 2013, 10:50 AM
- - EKBT81   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 26 2013, 05:10 PM) Or...   Apr 27 2013, 02:25 PM
- - Blade   That's because they're partly ad-supported...   Apr 29 2013, 08:53 AM
- - Neurosis   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 26 2013, 11:10 AM) Ok...   May 3 2013, 01:04 AM
|- - bannockburn   QUOTE (Neurosis @ May 3 2013, 03:04 AM) Y...   May 3 2013, 01:31 PM
|- - Nath   QUOTE (bannockburn @ May 3 2013, 03:31 PM...   May 3 2013, 07:43 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Even if they are different, comparing just nuyen t...   May 3 2013, 03:42 PM
- - bannockburn   My point exactly My personal lifestyle, includin...   May 3 2013, 07:46 PM
- - Udoshi   Whether it is meters or dollars, I think we can de...   May 3 2013, 11:03 PM
- - hermit   What, isn't an America-class landing ship 884 ...   May 3 2013, 11:24 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (hermit @ May 3 2013, 04:24 PM) Wha...   May 4 2013, 05:30 PM
- - Sunshine   IMO the Pricing Logic of SR is broken by default. ...   May 4 2013, 02:09 PM
- - Toptomcat   The Shadowrun background includes a plague outbrea...   May 4 2013, 06:18 PM
|- - Sunshine   QUOTE (Toptomcat @ May 4 2013, 08:18 PM) ...   May 4 2013, 11:36 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Sunshine @ May 4 2013, 06:36 PM) I...   May 4 2013, 11:50 PM
- - CanRay   Also, the Nuyen is a completely artificial currenc...   May 4 2013, 06:42 PM
|- - Toptomcat   QUOTE (CanRay @ May 4 2013, 01:42 PM) Als...   May 4 2013, 07:08 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Toptomcat @ May 4 2013, 02:08 PM) ...   May 4 2013, 07:12 PM
- - Mantis   I always wonder how you sell such things. Back all...   May 6 2013, 11:30 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mantis @ May 6 2013, 04:30 AM) I a...   May 6 2013, 01:57 PM
- - hermit   A Weapons fair in the CAS? In a world made of drag...   May 6 2013, 02:31 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ May 6 2013, 07:31 AM) A W...   May 6 2013, 02:35 PM
- - hermit   Yeah, just like in Tomorrow Never Dies!   May 6 2013, 03:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ May 6 2013, 08:22 AM) Yea...   May 6 2013, 05:36 PM
- - Angelone   *Blares "Aces High" while tooling around...   May 6 2013, 10:36 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Angelone @ May 6 2013, 05:36 PM) *...   May 6 2013, 10:48 PM
- - White Buffalo   I think part of the reason they're so cheep is...   May 29 2013, 07:47 PM


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