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post Jun 10 2013, 10:01 PM
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SR5 is around the corner, so I'm back again, as I have been for every new editions!

I completed my collection (350$ in the past few weeks, it's good to no longer be a student!) and I am reading Storm Front. I like a lot of the fluff, but my attention was drawn to the Ares section.

All right, I think I will be able to make a running gag in my next campaign out of the Ares Excalibur, so right there the writers did not waste their time!

But it's not clear to me how such a fiasco is even possible. I can accept that whoever was in charge of developing the Excalibur is a moron who produced a complete dud. That happens all the time. But why didn't his superior scrap the project when he saw it was going nowhere during any of the dozens of progress reports he would have received? But, hey, let's assume that every single person in the chain of command of AresArms between Project Exaclibur and whoever is in charge of the division is a complete boob. Fine. But how the hell did they get AresMedia (or whatever the media division is called) to participate in a moronic and doomed coverup?

This is too big, it crosses division, so it has to involve Damien Knight. It implies that the CEO himself decided that he had sunk too much money in the Excalibur project and needed to recoup as much of the loss as he could. As a result, he ordered all his media outlets to outright lie, fabricate some stories and bury others, knowing full well this would be DEVASTATING to the Ares brand, costing billions in the long term, but he was too strapped for cash in the short term to care.

But that brings the question of how much money can you possibly sink in the development of a freaking rifle anyway that you can't afford to scrap the project? Compared to, say, how much money Ares invest to develop SPACE CRAFTS! It can't even be in the same order of magnitude. You'd think the Ares Excalibur development project is just a drop in the bucket for a corporation who must have budgeted the fact that not 100% of projects in development were going to pan out. And how much money are you going to recoup anyways by manipulating reviews and markets enough so that the first two weeks of sales are good before the abysmal performance of the product inevitably catch up with you? It's a rifle, not a Hollywood Blockbuster!

This. Makes. No. Sense.

Damien has to have already lost control of his corporation. For example, maybe he has been invested by an insect spirit and the hive queen has a plan that requires Ares to self destruct. That's all I can see because human incompetence can only explain so much.
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- Charon   Ares Excalibur   Jun 10 2013, 10:01 PM
- - bannockburn   Not to cut you off, but this has been noted in a 4...   Jun 10 2013, 10:17 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jun 10 2013, 05:17 P...   Jun 10 2013, 10:21 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE This. Makes. No. Sense. It has all been said...   Jun 10 2013, 10:29 PM
- - bannockburn   Here: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show.....   Jun 10 2013, 10:36 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jun 10 2013, 05:36 P...   Jun 10 2013, 10:37 PM
- - Charon   QUOTE It has all been said and done in the Stormfr...   Jun 10 2013, 10:37 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 10 2013, 05:37 PM) Ok...   Jun 11 2013, 01:46 AM
||- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 10 2013, 07...   Jun 11 2013, 03:56 PM
||- - Charon   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jun 11 2013, 10:56 AM)...   Jun 11 2013, 04:10 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 10 2013, 04:37 PM) Ok...   Jun 11 2013, 07:25 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 11 2013, 02:25 ...   Jun 11 2013, 09:32 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 11 2013, 03:32 PM) Ah...   Jun 11 2013, 11:13 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 11 2013, 04:13 ...   Jun 11 2013, 11:49 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 11 2013, 03:13 ...   Jun 12 2013, 08:44 AM
|- - Seriously Mike   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 12 2013, 01:13 ...   Jun 12 2013, 09:21 AM
- - kzt   People that get paid to write or edit this stuff h...   Jun 10 2013, 10:41 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Like the fact that the entire firearms indus...   Jun 10 2013, 10:45 PM
- - kzt   So then this is going to be be a kind of boring bu...   Jun 11 2013, 07:50 AM
|- - DMiller   QUOTE (kzt @ Jun 11 2013, 04:50 PM) So th...   Jun 11 2013, 08:41 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE My thought was someone here has an issue wit...   Jun 11 2013, 12:45 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 11 2013, 07:45 AM) My...   Jun 11 2013, 03:58 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 11 2013, 09:58 AM) An...   Jun 11 2013, 07:21 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jun 11 2013, 02:21 P...   Jun 11 2013, 09:29 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 10 2013, 06:01 PM) SR...   Jun 11 2013, 01:09 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jun 11 2013, 08:09 AM...   Jun 11 2013, 03:48 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE You'd almost think that internal turmoil...   Jun 11 2013, 06:01 PM
- - MADness   pre-note: I have not read Storm Front. I came in a...   Jun 11 2013, 07:21 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE What if the whole issue with the Excalibur a...   Jun 11 2013, 09:32 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 11 2013, 02:32 PM) Wh...   Jun 11 2013, 11:47 PM
- - Crank   Its not implausible for a weapon to have a serious...   Jun 11 2013, 10:44 PM
- - hermit   And loot a Scalpel of Jew Mauling +2. I am not mak...   Jun 11 2013, 11:41 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 11 2013, 07:41 PM) An...   Jun 12 2013, 01:36 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 11 2013, 07:36 PM) Pa...   Jun 12 2013, 01:41 AM
- - Umidori   That's clearly a Scalpel of Jew Mauling +3, at...   Jun 12 2013, 02:13 AM
- - Charon   Ah. Could have been worse. Technically, you are ...   Jun 12 2013, 02:16 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Based on the lore about ghost I am aware of ...   Jun 12 2013, 10:58 AM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 12 2013, 05:58 AM) Al...   Jun 13 2013, 04:51 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE It is the only, though rather broken, way of...   Jun 12 2013, 01:34 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Cain @ Jun 12 2013, 07:34 AM) Not ...   Jun 12 2013, 02:04 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Not really. You could have simple scaled the...   Jun 12 2013, 02:19 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 12 2013, 01:13 ...   Jun 12 2013, 08:05 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (Nath @ Jun 12 2013, 03:05 PM) The ...   Jun 13 2013, 04:51 AM
- - Ixal   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 10 2013, 10:01 PM) Bu...   Jun 13 2013, 12:29 AM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (Ixal @ Jun 12 2013, 07:29 PM) To u...   Jun 13 2013, 04:41 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 12 2013, 11:41 PM) Se...   Jun 13 2013, 04:51 AM
|- - Ixal   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 13 2013, 04:41 AM) Se...   Jun 13 2013, 05:46 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Ixal @ Jun 13 2013, 10:46 AM) And ...   Jun 13 2013, 09:31 PM
- - hermit   The F-35 is a much better example. 500 mil is stil...   Jun 13 2013, 12:56 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 12 2013, 08:56 PM) Th...   Jun 13 2013, 01:26 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE So, would you recommand I get Deadly Waves? ...   Jun 13 2013, 07:50 AM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 13 2013, 03:50 AM) It...   Jun 13 2013, 03:35 PM
- - Rubic   While it's probably just shoddy writing, I can...   Jun 13 2013, 12:34 PM
- - binarywraith   I really think it was some 'genius' in the...   Jun 13 2013, 01:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 13 2013, 06:54 ...   Jun 13 2013, 02:12 PM
- - Wakshaani   You'd be wrong, for what it's worth. If y...   Jun 13 2013, 02:38 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jun 13 2013, 07:38 AM)...   Jun 13 2013, 03:34 PM
||- - Angelone   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 13 2013, 10...   Jun 16 2013, 07:54 PM
|- - Charon   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jun 13 2013, 10:38 AM)...   Jun 13 2013, 03:39 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Charon @ Jun 13 2013, 10:39 AM) As...   Jun 15 2013, 02:34 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Neraph @ Jun 14 2013, 09:34 PM) Ho...   Jun 15 2013, 03:24 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE I just figured that, you know, people going ...   Jun 13 2013, 11:40 PM
- - MADness   Honeywell makes heating and cooling devices and pa...   Jun 14 2013, 02:05 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (MADness @ Jun 13 2013, 07:05 PM) H...   Jun 14 2013, 06:43 AM
- - hermit   Thanks for the link, kzt.   Jun 14 2013, 09:22 AM
- - MADness   I had no idea Honeywell did that much. Makes sense...   Jun 15 2013, 02:48 AM
- - Wakshaani   In both Storm Front and Dirty Tricks, his use of L...   Jun 15 2013, 04:28 AM


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