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> Counterspelling Nerf, Surprised this one hasn't been discussed heavily yet
Jaid
post Jul 16 2013, 06:37 PM
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and what a nerf!

counterspelling has changed quite a bit:

1) it requires either a free action, or an interrupt costing 5 initiative, to counterspell any given spell.
2) your counterspelling dice pool is per *combat turn* in SR 5, not per spell or per initiative pass.

now, that's probably nothing new to anyone from 3rd or earlier, being per combat turn (i think that's how often your pool reset, isn't it? it's been a long time), but that was when the other guy also had to take dice out of his counterspell pool to cast spells at you (ie casting and countering spells came from the same die pool, so it was no problem).

so, it may not be a bad idea to have a couple people able to counter spells on your team... because if you go up against an enemy mage that casts a lot of spells (or worse yet, multiple enemy mages), you might just find yourself getting shut down, hard.

this has some pretty scary implications... i mean, if an enemy mage throws a direct combat spell at you, you might just be like "screw it, we'll take the damage. i don't want to risk the next one being a control thoughts and not have anything left to counter *that*"
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- Jaid   Counterspelling Nerf   Jul 16 2013, 06:37 PM
- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 16 2013, 01:37 PM) and ...   Jul 16 2013, 06:53 PM
|- - Skynet   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 16 2013, 08:53 PM)...   Jul 16 2013, 06:57 PM
||- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 16 2013, 01:57 PM) Wh...   Jul 16 2013, 07:10 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 16 2013, 01:53 PM)...   Jul 16 2013, 09:35 PM
- - Jaid   from what i hear (haven't gotten there yet) fo...   Jul 16 2013, 07:05 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Are you generally going to need a counterspell foc...   Jul 16 2013, 07:09 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jul 16 2013, 02:0...   Jul 16 2013, 07:11 PM
- - Skynet   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 16 2013, 09:10 PM)...   Jul 16 2013, 07:13 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 16 2013, 02:13 PM) No...   Jul 16 2013, 07:47 PM
- - Skynet   Guess it all comes back to the old saying: Geek th...   Jul 16 2013, 08:05 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 16 2013, 03:05 PM) Gu...   Jul 16 2013, 08:38 PM
- - Skynet   Strange: the book mentions that an active focus ha...   Jul 16 2013, 08:50 PM
- - Psikerlord   you dont need counterspelling at all in 5e. all sp...   Jul 16 2013, 10:23 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Jul 16 2013, 05:23 PM...   Jul 16 2013, 10:42 PM
|- - Psikerlord   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 16 2013, 10:42 PM) In...   Jul 17 2013, 03:03 AM
- - RelentlessImp   As an avid Awakened player, I'm actually okay ...   Jul 16 2013, 10:28 PM
- - Entropian   You can also use a power focus for counter spellin...   Jul 17 2013, 03:23 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Entropian @ Jul 16 2013, 11:23 PM)...   Jul 17 2013, 04:14 AM
- - SpellBinder   Like in SR4a, a power focus can aid in the use of ...   Jul 17 2013, 04:56 AM
- - Falconer   Question... how are indirect spells handled. I gl...   Jul 21 2013, 05:22 AM
|- - DoomFrog   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 20 2013, 09:22 PM) ...   Jul 21 2013, 06:51 AM
- - Mantis   I would imagine they are added to the first test (...   Jul 21 2013, 06:43 AM
- - Sendaz   It could be worded better. In SR4A (pg 185) When ...   Jul 21 2013, 07:10 AM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 21 2013, 03:10 AM) In...   Jul 21 2013, 08:59 AM
- - Umidori   Previously, counterspelling was just too good. A s...   Jul 21 2013, 08:29 AM
- - Sendaz   It does make more sense this way as like you said ...   Jul 21 2013, 08:42 AM
- - Supine   Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the...   Jul 21 2013, 08:42 AM
- - Umidori   If you can manage the drain, you may as well use b...   Jul 21 2013, 08:52 AM
- - Umidori   You pay +3 drain, you can cast as a Simple Action....   Jul 21 2013, 09:04 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 21 2013, 05:04 AM) ....   Jul 21 2013, 09:06 AM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 21 2013, 05:04 AM) Y...   Jul 21 2013, 11:07 AM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Jul 21 2013, 04:07 AM)...   Jul 21 2013, 03:26 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 21 2013, 11:26 AM) R...   Jul 21 2013, 03:29 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 21 2013, 11:26 AM) S...   Jul 21 2013, 05:05 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Jul 21 2013, 11:05 AM)...   Jul 22 2013, 08:35 PM
- - Falconer   Mantis and Doomfrog: Please cite where you'r...   Jul 21 2013, 02:36 PM
|- - Mantis   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 21 2013, 07:36 AM) ...   Jul 21 2013, 04:34 PM
|- - DoomFrog   QUOTE (Mantis @ Jul 21 2013, 08:34 AM) Fa...   Jul 21 2013, 05:33 PM
- - Falconer   Mantis: I don't have access to the PDF to che...   Jul 21 2013, 05:23 PM
|- - DoomFrog   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 21 2013, 09:23 AM) ...   Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM
- - Mantis   Yeah. That's why I said Defence test. Even cap...   Jul 22 2013, 03:27 AM
- - Sendaz   And no, Fireball AOE does not count as 'around...   Jul 22 2013, 08:45 PM


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