 Is Automatics the odd skill out?, Single Shot supremacy? |
 Jul 18 2013, 12:52 PM
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Due to the new recoil rules and the burst fire nerfing, is there any question that Single Shot-capable weapons are a "better" choice? Like Semi-Auto, you can only Single Shot once per combat round and still have a non-combat simple action, but recoil is not cumulative between rounds/phases. As far as I can tell the only benefit to Automatics is full-auto suppression fire. I suppose this makes shotguns and rifles far more viable than they used to be, but reduces the effectiveness of pistols and all automatics.
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Samoth Is Automatics the odd skill out? Jul 18 2013, 12:52 PM
Dancer Oddly enough, a bolt action can be superior to a s... Jul 18 2013, 02:24 PM Skynet Yep, that struck me as odd too.
Guess we'll be... Jul 18 2013, 03:21 PM Jaid yeah, being able to shut down someone's defens... Jul 18 2013, 04:48 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Samoth @ Jul 18 2013, 07:52 AM) Du... Jul 18 2013, 07:27 PM
Mäx QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 10:27 ... Jul 18 2013, 07:36 PM Elfenlied QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 18 2013, 08:36 PM) Recoi... Jul 18 2013, 07:48 PM Skynet QUOTE Recoil accumulates with every bullet fired u... Jul 18 2013, 07:38 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 18 2013, 02:38 PM) On... Jul 18 2013, 07:57 PM Skynet QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 09:57 ... Jul 18 2013, 08:07 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 18 2013, 03:07 PM) Th... Jul 18 2013, 08:11 PM Mäx QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 18 2013, 10:38 PM) As... Jul 18 2013, 08:15 PM Liam On page 175, under the heading "Progressive R... Jul 18 2013, 08:17 PM Razhul This is quite clear in the rules, p.177
QUOTE Womb... Jul 18 2013, 08:20 PM Skynet QUOTE (Razhul @ Jul 18 2013, 10:20 PM) Th... Jul 18 2013, 08:27 PM Skynet QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 10:11 ... Jul 18 2013, 08:21 PM Samoth The question is really, "why would they do th... Jul 18 2013, 08:22 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE 2) Simple actions on the same turn you fire ... Jul 18 2013, 08:24 PM Sendaz QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 04:24 ... Jul 18 2013, 08:37 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 18 2013, 03:37 PM) Ok... Jul 18 2013, 08:44 PM Sendaz QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 03:44 ... Jul 18 2013, 08:51 PM DWC QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 04:44 ... Jul 18 2013, 08:54 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 18 2013, 03:54 PM) There... Jul 18 2013, 08:55 PM Samoth QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 18 2013, 08:54 PM) There... Jul 18 2013, 08:57 PM DWC QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 18 2013, 04:37 PM) Ok... Jul 18 2013, 08:48 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 18 2013, 03:48 PM) That ... Jul 18 2013, 08:51 PM Mäx QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 11:24 ... Jul 18 2013, 09:25 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 18 2013, 04:25 PM) The a... Jul 18 2013, 09:29 PM Jack VII QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 03:29 ... Jul 18 2013, 09:36 PM StealthSigma QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 04:24 ... Jul 19 2013, 11:58 AM Werewindlefr QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Jul 19 2013, 07:58 ... Jul 19 2013, 12:33 PM Liam In that same example on page 177, it says in the l... Jul 18 2013, 08:52 PM Skynet This isn't as wierd as it might appear at firs... Jul 18 2013, 08:58 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Skynet @ Jul 18 2013, 03:58 PM) Th... Jul 18 2013, 08:59 PM DWC QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 04:59 ... Jul 18 2013, 09:12 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 18 2013, 04:12 PM) And c... Jul 18 2013, 09:18 PM Trillinon I think Werewindlefr and Skynet are trying to say ... Jul 18 2013, 09:00 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Trillinon @ Jul 18 2013, 04:00 PM)... Jul 18 2013, 09:01 PM Samoth Alright, so everyone will now spend their two Simp... Jul 18 2013, 09:02 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Samoth @ Jul 18 2013, 04:02 PM) Al... Jul 18 2013, 09:05 PM Skynet QUOTE (Samoth @ Jul 18 2013, 11:02 PM) Al... Jul 18 2013, 09:13 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Samoth @ Jul 18 2013, 02:02 PM) Al... Jul 18 2013, 09:19 PM Samoth Per the example on page 177:
Wombat takes continua... Jul 18 2013, 09:20 PM Liam So, Aaron and the SR5 crew say the rules as writte... Jul 18 2013, 09:20 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Liam @ Jul 18 2013, 04:20 PM) So, ... Jul 18 2013, 09:24 PM Umidori QUOTE "Recoil accumulates with every bullet f... Jul 18 2013, 09:28 PM Skynet QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 18 2013, 11:28 PM) T... Jul 18 2013, 09:43 PM Remnar QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 18 2013, 12:28 PM) ... Jul 18 2013, 10:14 PM Liam Looking at the links Werewindlefr posted, apparent... Jul 18 2013, 09:29 PM Sendaz In a surprise move to try and resolve the recoil i... Jul 18 2013, 09:32 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 18 2013, 04:32 PM) In... Jul 18 2013, 09:35 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 02:35 ... Jul 18 2013, 10:28 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 18 2013, 06... Jul 18 2013, 10:36 PM Liam Having read all of Aaron's posts in that threa... Jul 18 2013, 09:36 PM Epicedion Single Shot is nice, but I bet there will be plent... Jul 18 2013, 11:28 PM Wired_SR_AEGIS QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 18 2013, 11:28 PM)... Jul 18 2013, 11:31 PM Sendaz QUOTE (Wired_SR_AEGIS @ Jul 18 2013, 06:3... Jul 18 2013, 11:33 PM quentra QUOTE (Wired_SR_AEGIS @ Jul 18 2013, 06:3... Jul 18 2013, 11:48 PM Epicedion QUOTE (quentra @ Jul 18 2013, 06:48 PM) R... Jul 18 2013, 11:53 PM quentra QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 18 2013, 06:53 PM)... Jul 19 2013, 12:16 AM Razhul Oh, wow, I get it now. Thanks, Werewolf!
It r... Jul 18 2013, 11:49 PM Samoth QUOTE (Razhul @ Jul 18 2013, 11:49 PM) Oh... Jul 19 2013, 12:26 AM Dancer Now that we've sorted that out, why do machine... Jul 19 2013, 01:03 AM Liam Sustained fire, I guess? But each machine gun lis... Jul 19 2013, 01:08 AM Werewindlefr They're worse than assault rifle, but they use... Jul 19 2013, 01:10 AM DWC QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 18 2013, 09:10 ... Jul 19 2013, 01:36 AM Mäx Machineguns sucking is kind of a tradition is shad... Jul 19 2013, 11:38 AM Werewindlefr If I understand correctly, IRL, the main advantage... Jul 19 2013, 01:43 AM Dancer QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Jul 19 2013, 02:43 ... Jul 19 2013, 03:47 PM DWC QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 19 2013, 10:47 AM) By... Jul 19 2013, 04:35 PM phlapjack77 QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 20 2013, 12:35 AM) Don... Jul 19 2013, 04:38 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 19 2013, 11:47 AM) Ma... Jul 19 2013, 05:16 PM Remnar QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 19 2013, 07:47 AM) By... Jul 19 2013, 09:28 PM Flaser QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 19 2013, 05:47 PM) By... Jul 22 2013, 02:19 PM Sendaz To: All GOD divisions
Subject: Referencing to memo... Jul 19 2013, 12:08 PM X-Kalibur I'll stay out of the heavy weapons bit here, m... Jul 19 2013, 04:43 PM KarmaInferno At Origins, the judges were having any non-firing ... Jul 19 2013, 05:07 PM Sendaz Well it helps to know they were playing it that wa... Jul 19 2013, 05:10 PM HugeC So we now know that if you take an action that isn... Jul 19 2013, 09:05 PM forgarn Sorry, but i just read this whole thing and there ... Jul 19 2013, 09:38 PM Remnar So the confustion is simply this. Does the senten... Jul 19 2013, 10:06 PM Skynet QUOTE (Remnar @ Jul 20 2013, 12:06 AM) So... Jul 20 2013, 09:34 AM Sendaz Rumour has it they are thinking of adding recoil t... Jul 19 2013, 10:10 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 19 2013, 04:10 PM) Ru... Jul 19 2013, 11:20 PM Werewindlefr QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 19 2013, 06:10 PM) Ru... Jul 19 2013, 11:57 PM Umidori I actually quite like that idea. It lets you have ... Jul 22 2013, 02:46 PM  |
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