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Opti
post Jul 29 2013, 05:46 AM
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My shaman player continually summons a force 4 air spirit and uses engulf on everything. It uses the air engulf which bypasses armor, and does a crap-ton of stun damage. Nearly everything except boss-types fall easily within the first round since they automatically take damage again on thier action phase, and cant do anything until they escape. Are we playing this wrong, or is there something I should be doing to remedy this?

Another of my players wants to create and sell spell formula for foci and sell them to his talismonger contact. He created a force 4 power focus (it took 4 days) and now wants to sell it (according to the rules for fencing to contacts) for 18,000 (foci power (4)x 18,000 = 72,000, and sold for 5% x loyalty rating (5) = 18,000) nuyen. I went step-by-step and this seems legit, but also seems like a cheap way to get a lot of money for no real work.

Lastly, one of my players used Mob Mind in the first round of combat to make an entire street gang shoot themselves in the head, since he got 5 successes and their resist pool was only 4 dice each. Help on this stuff?

Thanks.
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- Opti   Help for a new GM - my players are thrashing me.   Jul 29 2013, 05:46 AM
- - phlapjack77   Just some thoughts below QUOTE (Opti @ Jul 2...   Jul 29 2013, 06:01 AM
- - Umidori   To combat the Air Spirit engulfing foes, send in f...   Jul 29 2013, 06:10 AM
- - Slide   I replyed to you on shadowruntabletop but just tho...   Jul 29 2013, 06:23 AM
- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Opti @ Jul 29 2013, 01:46 PM) My s...   Jul 29 2013, 06:29 AM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 29 2013, 12:29 AM) ...   Jul 29 2013, 06:42 AM
||- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 02:42 PM) T...   Jul 29 2013, 06:50 AM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 28 2013, 11:29 PM) ...   Jul 31 2013, 04:26 PM
- - SpellBinder   Then there's the ever popular background count...   Jul 29 2013, 06:41 AM
- - Umidori   Wait, K-10? Their boss is willing to kill them, eh...   Jul 29 2013, 07:05 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 03:05 PM) W...   Jul 29 2013, 07:09 AM
- - Umidori   I'm totally a dog person, so I'm feeling v...   Jul 29 2013, 07:13 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 03:13 PM) I...   Jul 29 2013, 07:17 AM
|- - Nal0n   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 09:13 AM) I...   Jul 30 2013, 07:50 PM
- - Slide   "K-10? No we would never encourage our employ...   Jul 29 2013, 07:19 AM
- - Umidori   How is that any less heinous or immoral? "Yo...   Jul 29 2013, 07:23 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 03:23 PM) H...   Jul 29 2013, 07:31 AM
- - Slide   You are so right Umi, and that's why its compl...   Jul 29 2013, 07:29 AM
- - Umidori   Now if it was Devil Rats? Pfft, who cares about a ...   Jul 29 2013, 07:33 AM
- - Shortstraw   While it may be the Australian in me I always favo...   Jul 29 2013, 07:34 AM
|- - Slide   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Jul 29 2013, 02:34 AM...   Jul 29 2013, 07:38 AM
- - Slide   I did want to build a corp that marketed enhanced ...   Jul 29 2013, 07:37 AM
- - Umidori   No, no. Use actual Drop Bears. They aren't as...   Jul 29 2013, 07:45 AM
- - Shortstraw   Very well a K-10'd Grizzly with a wingsuit and...   Jul 29 2013, 07:52 AM
- - FuelDrop   I actually suggested guard dogs because they'r...   Jul 29 2013, 07:53 AM
- - Umidori   *eyes widen in horror* So some Dumpshockers are f...   Jul 29 2013, 07:56 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 03:56 PM) *...   Jul 29 2013, 08:03 AM
- - Umidori   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 29 2013, 02:03 AM) ...   Jul 29 2013, 08:05 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 29 2013, 04:05 PM) P...   Jul 29 2013, 08:08 AM
- - FuelDrop   Also, an elephant with K-10 is an instant massacre...   Jul 29 2013, 08:07 AM
- - Kliko   They made a movie about this... Sharknado!   Jul 29 2013, 08:11 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Kliko @ Jul 29 2013, 04:11 PM) The...   Jul 29 2013, 08:15 AM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (Kliko @ Jul 29 2013, 04:11 AM) The...   Jul 29 2013, 08:50 AM
- - Slide   Opti, I hope this is helping you cope with your ou...   Jul 29 2013, 08:29 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Slide @ Jul 29 2013, 04:29 PM) Opt...   Jul 29 2013, 08:31 AM
- - Slide   Also, I would like to note that I only support the...   Jul 29 2013, 08:34 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Slide @ Jul 29 2013, 04:34 PM) Als...   Jul 29 2013, 08:37 AM
- - Bull   *blink* Devil Rats on K-10? *writes that down* ...   Jul 29 2013, 08:48 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 29 2013, 12:48 AM) *bli...   Jul 29 2013, 12:12 PM
|- - Dancer   QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 29 2013, 09:48 AM) *bli...   Jul 31 2013, 12:32 AM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 30 2013, 07:32 PM) Ar...   Jul 31 2013, 01:29 AM
|- - Dancer   QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 31 2013, 01:29 AM) K-11...   Jul 31 2013, 02:21 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 30 2013, 08:21 PM) No...   Jul 31 2013, 03:04 AM
|- - Lionhearted   QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 31 2013, 03:29 AM) K-11...   Jul 31 2013, 02:52 PM
- - Slide   Chummer, Sharknados are nothing to laugh at.   Jul 29 2013, 08:51 AM
- - Bull   Hey, i LOVED that movie, for all it's terrible...   Jul 29 2013, 11:54 AM
- - FuelDrop   Just be glad that no player is likely to get his h...   Jul 29 2013, 12:02 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 29 2013, 05:02 AM) ...   Jul 30 2013, 10:48 PM
- - Odsh   QUOTE (Opti @ Jul 29 2013, 01:46 AM) My s...   Jul 29 2013, 02:41 PM
- - Lionhearted   *Looks at thread* Fragging love DS logic sometimes...   Jul 29 2013, 02:47 PM
- - tete   QUOTE (Opti @ Jul 29 2013, 05:46 AM) Last...   Jul 30 2013, 07:52 PM
|- - DrZaius   QUOTE (tete @ Jul 30 2013, 03:52 PM) Also...   Jul 30 2013, 08:25 PM
- - Erik Baird   I so wanna see big cats trained as working animals...   Jul 30 2013, 08:39 PM
|- - Slide   QUOTE (Erik Baird @ Jul 30 2013, 04:39 PM...   Jul 30 2013, 08:42 PM
- - Umidori   QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 30 2013, 06:29 PM) That...   Jul 31 2013, 01:50 AM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 30 2013, 09:50 PM) P...   Jul 31 2013, 02:06 AM
- - Glyph   The air elemental engulfing and mind control spell...   Jul 31 2013, 01:54 AM
- - Umidori   That sounds like a job for Bear-Who-Walks-Through-...   Jul 31 2013, 03:01 AM
- - toturi   Flesh form Warform Toxic Mutant Demon Rats Insect ...   Jul 31 2013, 03:05 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 31 2013, 11:05 AM) Fl...   Jul 31 2013, 09:08 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 31 2013, 04:08 AM) T...   Jul 31 2013, 04:08 PM
- - Umidori   What happens when you kill the Queen? ~Umi   Jul 31 2013, 03:05 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 31 2013, 11:05 AM) W...   Jul 31 2013, 03:13 AM
- - FuelDrop   Not springing this in 5th until flamethrowers are ...   Jul 31 2013, 03:29 AM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 30 2013, 10:29 PM) ...   Jul 31 2013, 03:36 AM
- - Umidori   Ahh, Demon Rats. Bigger, hairier, actually have h...   Jul 31 2013, 03:54 AM
- - Bull   One of my favorite creations.   Jul 31 2013, 04:19 AM
- - Umidori   I think we're just going with the most logical...   Jul 31 2013, 05:42 PM
|- - vladski   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 31 2013, 12:42 PM) I...   Jul 31 2013, 06:40 PM
|- - Bearclaw   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 31 2013, 10:42 AM) I...   Jul 31 2013, 07:30 PM
- - Glyph   Unconscious targets are considered voluntary targe...   Aug 1 2013, 02:56 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 31 2013, 06:56 PM) Unc...   Aug 1 2013, 07:00 AM
- - Voran   Curious, how does one protect vs Engulf? I mean s...   Aug 1 2013, 08:18 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Voran @ Aug 1 2013, 01:18 AM) Curi...   Aug 1 2013, 08:46 AM
- - Shortstraw   I believe SnS is the goto option.   Aug 1 2013, 08:46 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Aug 1 2013, 02:46 AM)...   Aug 1 2013, 08:51 AM
- - Shortstraw   Oh good I was kinda bored with tasing spirits.   Aug 1 2013, 08:55 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Aug 1 2013, 02:55 AM)...   Aug 1 2013, 08:56 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Aug 1 2013, 04:55 PM)...   Aug 1 2013, 08:57 AM
- - Umidori   Spirits engulfing you? Invest in Shock Frills. ~U...   Aug 1 2013, 10:29 AM
- - Opti   I didn't mean to suggest that he was making fu...   Aug 1 2013, 05:41 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Opti @ Aug 1 2013, 11:42 AM) But i...   Aug 1 2013, 08:49 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Aug 1 2013, 01:49 PM) Once ...   Aug 1 2013, 09:20 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 1 2013, 03...   Aug 1 2013, 09:26 PM
- - Opti   But it seems like people are suggesting that any g...   Aug 1 2013, 05:42 PM
- - Lionhearted   I'd imagine the market for foci formula would ...   Aug 1 2013, 05:59 PM
- - Umidori   "Hey baby, I'm the son of Thor, want me t...   Aug 1 2013, 06:56 PM
- - Voran   No cuddling means NO CUDDLING.   Aug 1 2013, 07:01 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Man, it's gonna be a shocking experience.   Aug 1 2013, 07:09 PM
- - Voran   Also, its a bit metagamey, but who's to say th...   Aug 2 2013, 01:13 AM
- - phlapjack77   I'd be all for having the mage's actions h...   Aug 2 2013, 03:20 AM
- - Lionhearted   or might just be pissy that someone is stealing th...   Aug 2 2013, 01:26 PM
- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Aug 2 2013, 09:26 AM...   Aug 2 2013, 03:05 PM


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