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so for many societies there's an overarching magical paradigm or religion that you can see many mages slotting right into. sioux wildcats have shamans, japanacorps and the imperial marines have shinto casters, etc. but the good old UCAS, melting pot that it is, doesn't seem to have a dominant religion of any real kind. this seems like a problem for magicians in the military in particular, as i can't imagine this bullshit with hermetic circles goes over very well. better than waving around a stick like some fucking keebler in the forest, but not by much. i sort of don't see many academic or corporate magicians going for that whole hermetic thing, but that's a different thread.

so what does UCAS military magic look like then? i'm thinking it's something like the fairbain and skyes knife fighting manuals from back in the combatives era. lots of precise formula diagrams titled "MAG-100012-A SUMMONING OF ELEMENTAL, FIRE" and like that. standardized foci color-coded to force and function. lots of chanting about how this is your rifle instead of invoking ancient gods. hermeticism with a government-issue stick up its ass. with the occasional adept going out and getting a BORN TO KILL qi focus of a big dagger in a bleeding heart tattooed on his arm that is not at all regulation.

does this sound rightish? thoughts? i'm thinking about making an adept sniper with a sweet cyberarm, and i want him to have flava. tastes like kubrick, shoots like zaitsev kinda thing.
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- shinryu   Military magic   Aug 14 2013, 07:06 AM
- - Makki   at least CAS military has Christian Theurgy   Aug 14 2013, 07:10 AM
- - RHat   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 12:06 AM) s...   Aug 14 2013, 07:18 AM
- - Slide   I see ucas being non-denominational like you said...   Aug 14 2013, 07:22 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Slide @ Aug 14 2013, 12:22 AM) I s...   Aug 14 2013, 07:23 AM
|- - forgarn   QUOTE (Slide @ Aug 14 2013, 02:22 AM) As ...   Aug 14 2013, 12:05 PM
- - shinryu   despite the disturbing implications of the symbolo...   Aug 14 2013, 07:45 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 12:45 AM) d...   Aug 14 2013, 07:59 AM
- - Slide   Jrotc for all your milspecmag needs. The might hav...   Aug 14 2013, 07:59 AM
- - shinryu   that's the thing; as soon as you want to total...   Aug 14 2013, 08:43 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 04:43 AM) d...   Aug 14 2013, 10:09 AM
- - Critias   You could certainly make arguments for George Wash...   Aug 14 2013, 10:34 AM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 08:06 AM) a...   Aug 14 2013, 12:18 PM
- - Wakshaani   In the UCAS, you find more followers of the Hermet...   Aug 14 2013, 12:39 PM
- - shinryu   so i always kind of thought that was the differenc...   Aug 14 2013, 03:00 PM
- - Jaid   in the novels at least, you seem to awaken with a ...   Aug 14 2013, 04:52 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Jaid @ Aug 14 2013, 12:52 PM) twis...   Aug 14 2013, 04:55 PM
- - Tanegar   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 03:06 AM) t...   Aug 14 2013, 05:27 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 14 2013, 01:27 PM) E...   Aug 14 2013, 05:33 PM
|- - shinryu   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 14 2013, 05:27 PM) E...   Aug 14 2013, 08:30 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 03:30 PM) i...   Aug 14 2013, 09:06 PM
|- - shinryu   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 14 2013, 09:06 PM) Y...   Aug 14 2013, 09:36 PM
- - Tzeentch   Awakened, especially those useful in the military,...   Aug 14 2013, 08:14 PM
|- - shinryu   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 14 2013, 08:14 PM) ...   Aug 14 2013, 08:35 PM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 08:35 PM) c...   Aug 14 2013, 08:58 PM
- - Sendaz   In some areas of the globe where open magic is sti...   Aug 14 2013, 08:25 PM
- - Wakshaani   As to Awakened ratios, IIRC, 1% of the population ...   Aug 14 2013, 09:57 PM
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|- - Irion   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 14 2013, 11:25 PM) h...   Aug 15 2013, 07:17 AM
- - Tzeentch   Logistically, mages don't require much special...   Aug 14 2013, 10:19 PM
- - shinryu   yep. looking at the numbers, it seems like bumping...   Aug 14 2013, 11:11 PM
- - shinryu   thanks; i'll play with these numbers a bit, bu...   Aug 15 2013, 01:00 AM
- - Wakshaani   Two things I forgot. One, Enchanting should be on...   Aug 15 2013, 01:20 AM
- - Tzeentch   Wak is taking his numbers from Street Magic and a ...   Aug 15 2013, 04:16 AM
- - Makki   don't forget military draft. Every Awakened wi...   Aug 15 2013, 06:45 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Makki @ Aug 15 2013, 07:45 AM) don...   Aug 15 2013, 11:54 AM
- - shinryu   so, tired, apologize if this is less cogent than i...   Aug 15 2013, 09:28 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (shinryu @ Aug 15 2013, 12:28 PM) 2...   Aug 15 2013, 12:04 PM
- - Tzeentch   The Sioux Nation has a mandatory draft, but I don...   Aug 15 2013, 07:10 PM
- - Nath   I was about to say something, then remembered I co...   Aug 15 2013, 07:21 PM
|- - shinryu   QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 15 2013, 07:21 PM) I wa...   Aug 15 2013, 07:51 PM
- - RHat   Isn't an HTR team coming SUPPOSED to mean that...   Aug 15 2013, 10:48 PM
- - Nath   BTW, the original quotes for the number of mages, ...   Aug 15 2013, 11:18 PM
- - Tzeentch   The Sixth World Almanac does cover every major nat...   Aug 15 2013, 11:32 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 15 2013, 07:32 PM) ...   Aug 15 2013, 11:45 PM
|- - Nath   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 16 2013, 01:32 AM) ...   Aug 16 2013, 07:08 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Military mages are actually an interesting idea. ...   Aug 15 2013, 11:58 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 15 2013, 04...   Aug 16 2013, 01:13 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (RHat @ Aug 15 2013, 08:13 PM) Yeah...   Aug 16 2013, 02:09 AM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 16 2013, 03...   Aug 16 2013, 05:45 AM
- - RHat   Yeah, but if they're gonna have to extract you...   Aug 16 2013, 04:00 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (RHat @ Aug 16 2013, 12:00 AM) Yeah...   Aug 16 2013, 04:05 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 15 2013, 09...   Aug 16 2013, 04:07 AM
- - Tzeentch   It's unclear if you can preserve a material li...   Aug 16 2013, 04:07 AM
|- - Irion   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 16 2013, 05:07 AM) ...   Aug 16 2013, 05:48 AM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Irion @ Aug 16 2013, 05:48 AM) So ...   Aug 16 2013, 07:08 AM
||- - Irion   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 16 2013, 07:08 AM) ...   Aug 16 2013, 02:49 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Irion @ Aug 15 2013, 10:48 PM) So ...   Aug 16 2013, 07:36 AM
- - Sendaz   That material sample is not just for spell trackin...   Aug 16 2013, 07:26 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Aug 16 2013, 02:26 AM) Th...   Aug 16 2013, 12:42 PM
- - quentra   I swear I did the math early when 4ed came up and ...   Aug 16 2013, 08:37 PM
- - Tzeentch   6 billion it is   Aug 16 2013, 10:06 PM
- - Nath   Finished some math too. My projection is 5,870,00...   Aug 16 2013, 10:29 PM
- - Tzeentch   I've attached Nath's data to my dataset an...   Aug 16 2013, 11:21 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 17 2013, 01:21 AM) ...   Aug 17 2013, 01:01 PM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Makki @ Aug 17 2013, 01:01 PM) Now...   Aug 17 2013, 05:13 PM
- - RHat   That's seriously handy. Thanks, guys.   Aug 17 2013, 07:33 AM


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