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GloriousRuse
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So, we've all played the game where the former special forces guy teams up with the absurdly powerful anti-establishment mage, the glacier shaving Decker, and the Face who can convince you to change sexualities, twice. And the rules are great at making that team.

Likewise, the Street level characters who are quite capable of outshooting most SWAT teams, and have incidentally just the right dump stats.

Even the best Character Role Players are rarely going to leave any serious action deficiencies, and usually have at least one specialty tweaked to well beyond professional competence.

But what if there was an alternate rule set, one that made the metahuman first, before any character consideration? One where you could see how your typical "fell-in-to the-shadows, didn't dive into it" character might be created.

The goal is not balanced, nor fair, character creation. It is, indeed, the opposite: to present an unfair, unoptimized, un-player balanced chargen where the world of shadowrun is dangerous, and scary. Where, by virtue of being "real" the environment and the players need to be respected and feared, not treated as a handy challenge for tonight's session.

The rules are always update-able, and I am seeking further input into their creation just as a pet project. Specifically skills and resources related to these things.

They do not include societal adjustments yet (for instance, you get the statistical chance of being a mage, without accounting for the vast likelihood corps would pick you up for corporate educating before the street ganger and therefore increase the odds he never considers cirminality), but if anyone has the numbers to run it, it might be interesting.

You'll need a d100 or similar percentile generating function.

Step 1. The basics

Roll Metatype (Seattle pop numbers used from Seattle 2072)
1-66 = Your human. Hooray.
67-79 = An elf, you might say you win the genetic lottery.
80-81 = Dwarf it is.
82-97 = Ork.
98+ = Troll

Roll stats (base + 2.5 used as the mean for a normal distribution with each point being a standard deviation)
Roll each stat using the following. This will give you slightly above average individuals (roughly priority B normally distributed) Downshift 1 level if the racial max is less than 6:
1-3: Base (Human 1)
4-18: Base + 1 (Human 2)
19 - 52: Base + 2 (Human 3)
53 - 84 : Base + 3 (Human 4)
84 - 98 : Base + 4 (Human 5)
99+: Roll Again -
IF 1-98, Base + 5 (Human 6)
IF 99+, Exceptional Attribute (Human 7)

If you want your characters even more pedestrian, her eis the same table centered on 3, which gives roughly priority C stats normally distributed.

Roll stats (base + 2 used as the mean for a normal distribution with each point being a standard deviation)
Roll each stat using the following. Downshift 1 level if the racial max is less than 6:
1-6: Base (Human 1 - this is slightly higher as it accommodates for all the standard devs that would be below base with the new left skew)
7-31: Base + 1 (Human 2)
32-69: Base + 2 (Human 3)
70-94 : Base + 3 (Human 4)
94-98 : Base + 4 (Human 5)
99: Base + 5
00: Roll Again
IF 1-98: Base + 5
IF 99-00: Exceptional Attribute

"Too weak to live" rule: If your attributes total up to less than or equal to (8 * base +1), you may reroll . E.g. a human with a combined total of 16 or less could reroll.

Step 1 complete. You now have whatever the fate's gifted you with.

Step 2. Did you Awaken?

1-97 = Nope. get over it, go to step 3. So, how long before you start to hate those magical haves when your a have not?
98 = Your a techno. Freak.
99-00 = Yes! Well, that was improbable. Roll Again:

1-33: Mage, well aren't you the shit. Roll Again
IF 1-50: True mage
IF 51-00: Aspected magician

34-40 = Mystic Adept.
41+ = Adept

Determine Magic Rating
(skewed left normal distribution centered on 2)
1-18: Magic 1
19-52: Magic 2
53-84: Magic 3
84 - 98: Magic 4
99: Roll Again
1-98: Magic 5
99-00: Magic 6

Step 3: What part of society are you from? (Derived from Seattle 2072, in the absence of meaningful stats, I've used education as a baseline for separating low and middle lifestyles. if anyone has accurate number on rough estimates for the SINless, it would help. Criminal SINs are pulled from felonies per thousand)
1-3: SINless, Street. As it implies, you do not have a SIN.
4-15: SINless, Squatter.
16-20: SINless, Low.
21: Criminal SIN, Squatter
22: Criminal SIN, Low
23-34: National SIN, Low.
35-52: National SIN, Low, Corporate Affiliation
53-60: Corporate Limited SIN, Low
61-71: National SIN, Middle
72-85: Corporate Limited SIN, Middle
85-92: Corporate SIN, Middle
93-97: Corporate SIN, High
98: National SIN, High
99-00: Roll Again
1-98: Your choice of SIN, High
99-00: Luxury. Corporate SIN, naturally.



NOTE: Beyond this rudimentary point needs serious work and contribution, because after being born into a silver spoon or appalling poverty, you could start shaping your life..somewhat. right now we are considering skills "packs" and some limited skillpoint expenditures base don background.
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- GloriousRuse   Potential "how it actually happened" Chargen - input desired   Aug 30 2013, 08:10 PM
- - Wulffyre   This is awesome! *thumbs up!* I approve ...   Aug 30 2013, 08:30 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Sadly, you can accomplish all of that without all ...   Aug 30 2013, 09:16 PM
|- - GloriousRuse   Skills, Resources, and Edge are indeed my current ...   Aug 30 2013, 09:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Aug 30 2013, 02:54 ...   Aug 30 2013, 09:55 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Aug 31 2013, 05:54 ...   Aug 31 2013, 09:07 AM
- - Dolanar   I'd say the best way to handle skills is a ski...   Aug 30 2013, 09:18 PM
- - Dolanar   Honestly, you are probably playing to a very small...   Aug 30 2013, 10:15 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   SR4A had PACKS, which worked well for that, in my ...   Aug 30 2013, 10:25 PM
- - FuelDrop   Check out Chargen in the Traveler RPG. It's a ...   Aug 31 2013, 12:51 AM
- - Critias   I just whipped a guy together with a handfull of I...   Aug 31 2013, 01:06 AM
- - thorya   Tymeaus Jalynsfein are you really contributing any...   Aug 31 2013, 02:43 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (thorya @ Aug 30 2013, 08:43 PM) Ty...   Aug 31 2013, 03:01 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 10...   Aug 31 2013, 04:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Critias @ Aug 31 2013, 10:04 AM) E...   Aug 31 2013, 04:27 PM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 12...   Aug 31 2013, 05:17 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (thorya @ Aug 31 2013, 10:17 AM) Ag...   Aug 31 2013, 08:18 PM
||- - thorya   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 04...   Aug 31 2013, 09:03 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (thorya @ Aug 31 2013, 03:03 PM) An...   Sep 1 2013, 03:44 PM
|- - Lantzer   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 05...   Aug 31 2013, 05:38 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 10...   Aug 31 2013, 08:08 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Critias @ Aug 31 2013, 01:08 PM) T...   Aug 31 2013, 08:13 PM
- - vladski   Remember good ol' D&D? That was the point...   Aug 31 2013, 03:17 AM
- - Dolanar   Vladski there is a difference between randomly gen...   Aug 31 2013, 06:59 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Aug 30 2013, 11:59 PM) V...   Aug 31 2013, 08:48 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Aug 31 2013, 01:59 AM) V...   Aug 31 2013, 11:20 PM
- - RHat   Notionally, there may be an issue in which the num...   Aug 31 2013, 07:17 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah, Shadowrun is an incredibly lethal game, even...   Aug 31 2013, 09:31 AM
- - Draco18s   *Pulls out a d100 for a sample character* *Rolls 0...   Aug 31 2013, 03:31 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 31 2013, 11:31 AM) ...   Aug 31 2013, 04:17 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Aug 31 2013, 11:17 AM) Th...   Aug 31 2013, 06:51 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Aug 31 2013, 02:51 PM) ...   Aug 31 2013, 09:54 PM
- - Sendaz   The Classic Traveller RPG character generation act...   Aug 31 2013, 06:48 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 1 2013, 02:48 AM) The...   Aug 31 2013, 11:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Aug 31 2013, 06:35 PM) ...   Sep 1 2013, 12:39 AM
- - Chrome Head   This is a really great idea, if for nothing else t...   Aug 31 2013, 07:13 PM
- - GloriousRuse   Chrome: Thank you for that observation. I'll c...   Aug 31 2013, 09:33 PM
- - Glyph   The comparisons to other random character creation...   Aug 31 2013, 11:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Aug 31 2013, 05:42 PM) The...   Sep 1 2013, 03:46 PM
|- - GloriousRuse   QUOTE (Glyph @ Aug 31 2013, 07:42 PM) The...   Sep 1 2013, 07:58 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 2 2013, 03:58 A...   Sep 2 2013, 01:41 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 1 2013, 01:58 P...   Sep 3 2013, 02:00 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I don't know, 1e d&d used 3d6 as the defau...   Aug 31 2013, 11:51 PM
- - Critias   For random-based games, I've been a fan of usi...   Sep 1 2013, 12:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Critias @ Aug 31 2013, 06:18 PM) F...   Sep 1 2013, 03:49 PM
- - DrZaius   I like the idea in concept; shadowrunners in gener...   Sep 1 2013, 12:39 AM
- - Chrome Head   About creating a pedestrian. I agree that this is ...   Sep 1 2013, 01:35 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah, that's how I would handle it too, probab...   Sep 1 2013, 02:47 AM
- - Chrome Head   I agree, but I assume we're all veteran rolepl...   Sep 1 2013, 03:12 AM
- - Dolanar   also without being able to ensure there are the ri...   Sep 1 2013, 03:29 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Aug 31 2013, 08:29 PM) a...   Sep 1 2013, 03:30 AM
- - Chrome Head   As it is presented, it is pretty clear to me that ...   Sep 1 2013, 03:44 AM
- - Dolanar   well, since running is more or less turning to a l...   Sep 1 2013, 03:48 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Aug 31 2013, 09:48 PM) w...   Sep 1 2013, 03:52 PM
- - RHat   I will say that this can be interesting for puttin...   Sep 1 2013, 05:42 AM
- - Dolanar   so I went ahead & gave it a shot, here is my r...   Sep 1 2013, 07:16 AM
- - xsansara   I agree that the attributes actually seem to be to...   Sep 1 2013, 07:41 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (xsansara @ Sep 1 2013, 01:41 AM) I...   Sep 1 2013, 03:56 PM
- - Dolanar   likewise, the runner's should not expect to li...   Sep 1 2013, 09:17 PM
- - xsansara   I get through life and I am not a Rhodes scholar. ...   Sep 2 2013, 07:51 AM
- - Dolanar   But that is the problem, Regular people don't ...   Sep 2 2013, 08:34 AM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Sep 2 2013, 03:34 AM) Bu...   Sep 2 2013, 01:26 PM
- - xsansara   Yeah, well that is why practically every Shadowrun...   Sep 2 2013, 10:44 AM
- - Sendaz   The way I see it, alot of Fences often worked in S...   Sep 2 2013, 11:17 AM
- - GloriousRuse   As Thorya aptly put it, not only do regular people...   Sep 2 2013, 04:28 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Actually from the novels and source materials of t...   Sep 2 2013, 06:43 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Sep 3 2013, 02...   Sep 3 2013, 01:28 AM
|- - Lantzer   QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 3 2013, 02:28 AM) Dra...   Sep 3 2013, 02:01 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Lantzer @ Sep 2 2013, 08:01 PM) Ke...   Sep 3 2013, 02:07 AM
|- - Lantzer   I was thinking of another movie with shadowrunners...   Sep 3 2013, 02:12 AM
- - GloriousRuse   Tynaeus..yes, you could. You could set avail limit...   Sep 3 2013, 02:09 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 2 2013, 08:09 P...   Sep 3 2013, 02:17 AM
|- - Lantzer   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 3 2013, 02...   Sep 3 2013, 02:34 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Lantzer @ Sep 2 2013, 06:34 PM) I...   Sep 3 2013, 06:50 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Lantzer @ Sep 2 2013, 07:34 PM) I...   Sep 3 2013, 01:16 PM
- - Lantzer   More on the original topic, I don't have a pro...   Sep 3 2013, 02:17 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Lantzer @ Sep 2 2013, 08:17 PM) Mo...   Sep 3 2013, 02:21 AM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 2 2013, 10...   Sep 3 2013, 12:07 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 2 2013, 09...   Sep 4 2013, 02:16 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Sep 3 2013, 09...   Sep 4 2013, 03:10 AM
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|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 4 2013, 08...   Sep 4 2013, 01:36 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 4 2013, 09...   Sep 4 2013, 05:26 PM
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|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 4 2013, 01...   Sep 4 2013, 09:10 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Sep 4 2013, 03...   Sep 4 2013, 10:04 PM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 4 2013, 12...   Sep 4 2013, 09:52 PM
- - GloriousRuse   I will admit my SR experience is exclusively inter...   Sep 3 2013, 02:23 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 3 2013, 10:23 A...   Sep 3 2013, 02:50 AM
- - Dolanar   online random games tend to have one major flaw, n...   Sep 3 2013, 02:38 AM
- - Chinane   IMO your concept is interesting but extremely prob...   Sep 3 2013, 11:28 AM
|- - GloriousRuse   QUOTE (Chinane @ Sep 3 2013, 07:28 AM) IM...   Sep 4 2013, 01:03 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 4 2013, 09:03 A...   Sep 4 2013, 01:24 AM
|- - Chinane   QUOTE (GloriousRuse @ Sep 4 2013, 01:03 A...   Sep 4 2013, 02:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Chinane @ Sep 4 2013, 08:42 AM) I...   Sep 4 2013, 02:45 PM
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|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Sep 4 2013, 02:50 PM) I ...   Sep 4 2013, 08:57 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Dolanar @ Sep 4 2013, 04:50 PM) I ...   Sep 4 2013, 08:57 PM
- - Dolanar   Dark Heresy...read the wiki on the universe at the...   Sep 4 2013, 09:29 PM
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