Aug 30 2013, 08:54 PM
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with the more explicit connection of binding to slavery in 5th ed, there's an interesting question for traditions that have a more equitable outlook on spirits as to what spirits are acceptable to bind. for hermetics, even as of 3rd ed binding elementals was never really a moral problem since they were looked up on as mindless, alien, and possibly even just constructs of will. i would imagine that mentality holds among hermetics still. but for shamans and other traditions, what determines which spirits should be treated with respect and what spirits can be put to work in the fields (of security and mystical assistance)?
thoughts: 1) domains: would shamans be more likely to bind a spirit to do a task it is aspected to in terms of spell type? is is more ok to bind a water spirit to watch a coastal facility rather than a smelting plant? 2) "evil" spirits: it's pretty traditional even for hermetics (if we want to go all king solomon here) to bind evil spirits to do things, and i can see how there are probably equivalents in other traditions; nothing hops to mind for the native americans, but kitsune, gaki and some of the oni-associated kami would seem like they'd be ok to shackle to a "good" purpose for a shinto priest. it's hard to define this sort of thing in terms of elements, though, and especially through different traditions; combat spirits seem the most likely to be "evil" as such, but i can't really see beast spirits being, well, bestial as qualifying as evil or worthy of enslavement to most nature-aspected traditions. 3) mechanically, should this have any effect? if a summoner sticks to enslaving and draining the force out of a fire gaki because he earnestly believes he's purging its shitty karma, does that mean he's cool with the rest of the spirit world? or are these distinctions entirely human constructs that don't mirror the reality of spirits at all? either way is interesting, actually, but even if the traditions are wrong about things it's a good thing to know what a given mage might do wrong since he thinks it's right. or vice versa. |
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shinryu Acceptable spirits to bind Aug 30 2013, 08:54 PM
Jhaiisiin Flavor wise, yes, absolutely that all matters. Me... Aug 31 2013, 05:25 AM
Shemhazai I think that binding being tantamount to a form of... Aug 31 2013, 02:14 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Aug 31 2013, 08:14 AM)... Aug 31 2013, 03:16 PM
Sendaz QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 31 2013, 10... Aug 31 2013, 03:56 PM
shinryu i totally agree a lot of this comes down to rolepl... Sep 3 2013, 07:55 PM
Shemhazai I don't like the overall feel of what you... Sep 3 2013, 08:20 PM![]() ![]() |
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