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Chrome Head
post Jan 16 2014, 07:03 PM
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I didn't want to derail another recent thread that made me think of this question.

The skilljack costs 0.1E and 20k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) per rating. The skillwires cost the same, but the availability restricts them to rating 3 for a starting character. Activesofts are 5k per rating, knowsofts 2k, and linguasofts 1k.

It's really expensive. Let's say you play a cybered face character who wants to have access to extra languages for cheap. You have to pay say 80k for access to rating 4 (and 0.4 essence), plus 4k per extra language.

It's even worse for an activesoft user. My understanding of the rules calls for a skilljack AND a skillwires system to be able to process activesofts. That's a 120k investment, as well as 0.6 essence, which is significant, for the privilege of having to spend 15k for each active skill you want to buy in this way. You can make use of up to 6 skills at once, up to 9 if you run wireless. Let's say you buy six skills: your 18 skill points equivalent (on which no edge can be expanded) have costed you a whopping 210k and 0.6 essence. If you are stupid enough to run skillwires wireless (sounds strange too), these skills can be used with +1 to your limit (wow!).

To me it seems that these expensive 'wares only make sense for NPCs and PCs that become extremely rich (though why not buy a lifestyle and retire? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) ), at which point they become truly excellent. You can have 12 extra rating 6 skills accessible for a total cost of 600k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) and 1.2 essence. Note that Betaware Synaptic Boosters rating 3 come down to 1.05 essence and 427.5k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) (and better availability too) though, just for comparison.

This being said, has anyone tried them out at character creation? Has anyone even written a character that has a skilljack for SR5?
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- Chrome Head   Skillwires and Skilljacks, has anyone tried them?   Jan 16 2014, 07:03 PM
- - Stahlseele   Under SR4 there was a nice solution to this proble...   Jan 16 2014, 07:10 PM
|- - Chrome Head   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 16 2014, 02:10 PM...   Jan 16 2014, 07:11 PM
- - Stahlseele   It's pretty much on par with how it probably s...   Jan 16 2014, 07:14 PM
- - Lobo0705   I'll add that what you are paying for is versa...   Jan 16 2014, 07:30 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Jan 16 2014, 02:30 PM) ...   Jan 16 2014, 09:25 PM
- - KarmaInferno   First: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AOpomu9V6Q ...   Jan 16 2014, 09:05 PM
- - Jaid   the hardware seems overpriced. for anyone who want...   Jan 16 2014, 09:07 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jan 16 2014, 04:07 PM) the ...   Jan 17 2014, 04:15 AM
- - Lobo0705   I don't think that it is an min/max build item...   Jan 16 2014, 10:31 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Jan 16 2014, 05:31 PM) ...   Jan 17 2014, 06:53 AM
- - Stahlseele   I managed, with some rules wrestling, to build an ...   Jan 16 2014, 10:54 PM
|- - Chrome Head   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 16 2014, 05:54 PM...   Jan 17 2014, 01:23 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Jan 16 2014, 06:23 P...   Jan 17 2014, 03:21 PM
- - Stahlseele   There was a . . sort of . . exploit in the rules f...   Jan 17 2014, 01:30 AM
- - Glyph   SR3 had the chipjack expert driver, a broken piece...   Jan 17 2014, 04:03 AM
- - Medicineman   Just for Your Info The German BBB (= Erratta) say...   Jan 17 2014, 08:22 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 01:22 A...   Jan 17 2014, 03:18 PM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 02:22 A...   Jan 17 2014, 03:40 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Jan 17 2014, 10:40 AM) ...   Jan 17 2014, 03:49 PM
- - Stahlseele   i don't really get why you need a skill-jack a...   Jan 17 2014, 04:49 PM
- - Medicineman   ?? A Skilljack in SR5 is what a Chipjack used to ...   Jan 17 2014, 05:22 PM
- - Stahlseele   In SR3 you needed: A Chipjack. And then to use Kno...   Jan 17 2014, 05:48 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 17 2014, 10:48 AM...   Jan 17 2014, 06:25 PM
- - Lobo0705   You are a little off in how they worked in 3e. Kn...   Jan 17 2014, 06:20 PM
- - Medicineman   that sound quite difficult (IIRC you needed a Calc...   Jan 17 2014, 06:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 11:22 A...   Jan 17 2014, 06:28 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 01:22 P...   Jan 27 2014, 02:07 AM
- - Stahlseele   it's corp in this language. and SR3 works best...   Jan 17 2014, 06:28 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 17 2014, 01:28 PM...   Jan 17 2014, 06:36 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 11:36 A...   Jan 17 2014, 06:38 PM
- - Medicineman   Naaah, Carnival ain't awesome ! its like M...   Jan 17 2014, 06:43 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 17 2014, 11:43 A...   Jan 17 2014, 06:49 PM
- - Lobo0705   Having never played 4e, the interesting shift in p...   Jan 17 2014, 06:52 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   So you agree... SR5's Wires and 'Soft...   Jan 17 2014, 06:56 PM
- - Stahlseele   SR3 Skillwire system Level 8 Essence Cost: 1,6 Nu...   Jan 17 2014, 06:57 PM
- - Medicineman   in 4A You needed a Datajack 500 ¥ 0.1 E Skillwires...   Jan 17 2014, 07:01 PM
- - Machiavelli   Yeah...CGL should have bought another game-system....   Jan 18 2014, 06:17 PM
- - Sengir   I guess it's another case where one of the fre...   Jan 18 2014, 06:34 PM
- - Jaid   honestly, i'm fully expecting that in the matr...   Jan 20 2014, 03:06 AM
- - naga-nuyen   Just a quick personal note, I still think the ide...   Jan 25 2014, 06:10 AM
- - Jaid   cost of unit to worker ratio goes *up* dramaticall...   Jan 25 2014, 03:22 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jan 25 2014, 10:22 AM) some...   Jan 25 2014, 05:03 PM
- - DrZaius   Somehow, I don't think wage slaves skillwires ...   Jan 27 2014, 02:46 AM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (DrZaius @ Jan 26 2014, 09:46 PM) S...   Jan 27 2014, 05:55 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (DrZaius @ Jan 26 2014, 09:46 PM) S...   Jan 27 2014, 10:38 PM
- - Samoth   IMO Skilljacks are still a decent deal - you can s...   Jan 27 2014, 10:46 PM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Samoth @ Jan 27 2014, 04:46 PM) IM...   Jan 27 2014, 10:49 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Samoth @ Jan 27 2014, 05:46 PM) un...   Jan 27 2014, 11:10 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Samoth @ Jan 27 2014, 05:46 PM) un...   Jan 27 2014, 11:10 PM
- - Samoth   You're right, my bad.   Jan 27 2014, 10:50 PM
- - Stahlseele   doesn'T matter anyway, as changing the skill i...   Jan 28 2014, 12:12 AM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 27 2014, 07:12 PM...   Jan 28 2014, 01:16 AM
- - KCKitsune   Unless they went went back to having to worry abou...   Jan 28 2014, 02:55 AM
- - Jaid   you can have a skilljack rating 6 at chargen. it l...   Jan 28 2014, 08:37 AM
- - Samoth   The problem is the cost, as we've gone over a ...   Jan 28 2014, 11:43 AM


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