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post Jan 28 2014, 04:35 PM
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So I've been thinking about my little band of runners, and I've come to the realization that the fact that my players, or at least some of them, seem to hate going on runs where they don't have every single little bit of info possible. I'm talking floorplans, guard schedules, door codes/access keys, pictures of potential targets, butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers. They'll spend an hour having the decker go diving to try and find as much of this stuff as possible.

How do you guys gracefully say "You don't find that info" without making it seem like a cop-out? Some stuff, I can see that being a valid answer for (pictures of a shadowy behind-the-scenes syndicate players, for example), but stuff like building floorplans they've reasonably argued should be public record, and having the decker do a netdive every session to try and get to the target building/complex's node to get stuff like guard schedules and whatnot is getting a little tiring. Then again, since we're playing SR5, I may be doing that wrong, since I also haven't really been able to determine if the 100m "visible" radius in the Matrix is the absolute limit of where a decker can go (which would mean that if they wanted to get into the building's public node, like a museum's public info section for example, they'd have to be standing right in front of it, which does seem a bit silly).

Thoughts?
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- AccessControl   Too much info?   Jan 28 2014, 04:35 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Some of it may be public record, but you can also ...   Jan 28 2014, 05:19 PM
- - AccessControl   Hmmm...I'll have to see if I can't find a ...   Jan 28 2014, 05:24 PM
- - Sponge   QUOTE (AccessControl @ Jan 28 2014, 11:35...   Jan 28 2014, 05:29 PM
- - Wolfgar   I can't answer your SR5 matrix question (haven...   Jan 28 2014, 05:37 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Wolfgar @ Jan 28 2014, 12:37 PM) O...   Jan 29 2014, 06:24 AM
- - forgarn   I agree with some of the other posts. There shoul...   Jan 28 2014, 06:47 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (AccessControl @ Jan 29 2014, 12:35...   Jan 29 2014, 02:08 AM
- - Smash   This is learned behaviour. Players learn it in 2 ...   Jan 29 2014, 03:20 AM
- - Critias   Players want that level of info because they think...   Jan 29 2014, 04:10 AM
|- - DMiller   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 29 2014, 01:10 PM) P...   Jan 29 2014, 05:53 AM
- - ProfGast   A couple of "unavailable" methods have b...   Jan 29 2014, 05:57 AM
- - Blade   A great way to handle this is to use a a posterior...   Jan 29 2014, 08:02 AM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Blade @ Jan 29 2014, 03:02 AM) A g...   Jan 29 2014, 04:06 PM
||- - Blade   QUOTE (Sponge @ Jan 29 2014, 05:06 PM) I ...   Jan 30 2014, 09:41 AM
|- - AccessControl   QUOTE (Blade @ Jan 29 2014, 03:02 AM) A g...   Jan 30 2014, 03:31 PM
- - sk8bcn   Even if it's a good idea, I wouldn't love ...   Jan 29 2014, 09:22 AM
- - attilatheyeon   Is there still a data search skill in sr5? If so, ...   Jan 29 2014, 12:40 PM
- - MADness   It sounds like the other two team members dump all...   Jan 29 2014, 01:45 PM
|- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (MADness @ Jan 29 2014, 02:45 PM) I...   Jan 29 2014, 01:56 PM
- - Warlordtheft   I like the planning, but yes this is shadowrun. Ty...   Jan 29 2014, 02:11 PM
- - nezumi   Yeah, I also have runners who will basically do th...   Jan 29 2014, 03:48 PM
- - CloisterCobra   QUOTE (AccessControl @ Jan 29 2014, 05:35...   Jan 29 2014, 09:09 PM
- - Fatum   I'm surprised nobody has really pointed out th...   Jan 30 2014, 07:40 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Fatum -- Having time-sensitive runs was mentioned ...   Jan 30 2014, 08:47 PM
- - Fatum   Just mentioned, yeah. Actually, I can't say an...   Jan 30 2014, 10:12 PM
- - Koekepan   As a player, I prepare, and I'm not shy about ...   Jan 31 2014, 06:54 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Koekepan @ Jan 31 2014, 02:54 PM) ...   Jan 31 2014, 01:42 PM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 31 2014, 05:42 PM) Tr...   Jan 31 2014, 08:47 PM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 31 2014, 01:47 PM) Not...   Feb 2 2014, 05:21 AM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 2 2014, 09:21 AM) Sucks ...   Feb 2 2014, 08:28 AM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (Fatum @ Feb 2 2014, 01:28 AM) Suck...   Feb 2 2014, 09:03 AM
|- - mmu1   QUOTE (Koekepan @ Jan 31 2014, 01:54 AM) ...   May 8 2014, 07:52 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (mmu1 @ May 8 2014, 03:52 PM) Holy ...   May 8 2014, 08:20 PM
|- - Koekepan   QUOTE (mmu1 @ May 8 2014, 09:52 PM) Holy ...   May 9 2014, 12:16 AM
- - forgarn   First off, all the missions my group gets have dea...   Jan 31 2014, 04:33 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (forgarn @ Jan 31 2014, 10:33 AM) F...   Jan 31 2014, 08:56 PM
||- - forgarn   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jan 31 2014, 03:56 PM) At...   Jan 31 2014, 09:37 PM
|- - Koekepan   QUOTE (forgarn @ Jan 31 2014, 07:33 PM) F...   Feb 1 2014, 02:14 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (forgarn @ Feb 1 2014, 12:33 AM) Th...   Feb 1 2014, 04:16 AM
|- - Koekepan   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 1 2014, 06:16 AM) Tha...   Feb 1 2014, 06:03 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (Koekepan @ Feb 1 2014, 10:03 AM) I...   Feb 1 2014, 12:00 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Fatum @ Feb 1 2014, 05:00 AM) The ...   Feb 1 2014, 03:02 PM
||- - Koekepan   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 1 2014, 05...   Feb 1 2014, 06:52 PM
||- - Fatum   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 1 2014, 07...   Feb 1 2014, 08:29 PM
|- - Koekepan   QUOTE (Fatum @ Feb 1 2014, 02:00 PM) Beca...   Feb 1 2014, 06:33 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Fatum @ Feb 1 2014, 07:00 AM) The ...   Feb 2 2014, 09:47 PM
- - Critias   Just more proof that what works perfectly well for...   Feb 1 2014, 03:45 AM
- - Chimera   I find that in the Shadowrun games I've played...   Feb 1 2014, 01:47 PM
- - Fatum   I'd also note that the degree of Johnson invol...   Feb 1 2014, 02:21 PM
- - Fatum   Actually, here's what Mr.Johnson's Little ...   Feb 2 2014, 08:42 AM
- - Fatum   If you can jack Americars for a living, why do you...   Feb 2 2014, 09:36 AM
- - kzt   If we can come up with a plan to successfully brea...   Feb 2 2014, 05:52 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 2 2014, 10:52 AM) If we ...   Feb 2 2014, 07:17 PM
|- - thorya   QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 2 2014, 12:52 PM) If we ...   Feb 2 2014, 08:58 PM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (thorya @ Feb 3 2014, 12:58 AM) You...   Feb 3 2014, 01:19 AM
- - Godwyn   Standard contract work motto. It can be done fast...   Feb 3 2014, 11:01 PM


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