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Faelan
post Mar 9 2014, 04:25 PM
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So I have finally decided to dig in to the 5th edition and while I like how many things were basically cleaned up I am having a problem understanding the underpinnings of limits, or rather the why, and how some of it works. Just to be clear I am not saying they suck, I am not trying to start some sort of edition vs. edition argument, I just want to get it, or at least feel like I am on solid ground if I decide to toss it out the window.

1. Do limits apply to the base hits or net hits?
2. Do you get to roll all your dice, total up the successes and compare them to your opponents successes to get net hits and then reduce them if you are over your limit, or do they reduce your hits before you compare results?
3. What was the reason for implementing limits?
4. Don't limits emphasize attributes over skills?
5. How is it even possible for the runners to take out a high force spirit or dragon now? (not a common event certainly, but I always liked to know both as a player and a GM that anyone can meet the reaper, the way it stands now it seems like only really bad luck for the victim and really good luck for the attacker will do it). Just burn Edge you don't have?
6. Accuracy is irking me, why would you use a tool if it in many cases restricts you to a limit lower than your limit without it? I mean the point of a tool is to make things possible or easier, so why use these tools.
7. Is SR5 more of a Magicrun since Magic is the only thing without a limit?
8. Any house rules for the above?
9. Am I better off taking stuff I like in SR5 and transplanting it to SR4?

Any answers or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Basically as I see it right now SR5 gives with one hand while taking away with the other, so it worth investing in the new game or not both from a time and money viewpoint?
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- Faelan   Question About Limits   Mar 9 2014, 04:25 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 9 2014, 11:25 AM) 1. ...   Mar 9 2014, 06:20 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 9 2014, 07:20 PM) Ma...   Mar 20 2014, 05:11 PM
- - Faelan   Thanks for the nice breakdown. I particularly lik...   Mar 9 2014, 06:43 PM
- - DMiller   Our group has been playing SR5 for a while now. In...   Mar 11 2014, 08:49 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (DMiller @ Mar 11 2014, 03:49 AM) O...   Mar 11 2014, 12:36 PM
|- - mister__joshua   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 11 2014, 12:36 PM) A ...   Mar 11 2014, 01:25 PM
||- - Faelan   QUOTE (mister__joshua @ Mar 11 2014, 08:2...   Mar 11 2014, 01:39 PM
|- - AccessControl   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 11 2014, 08:36 AM) Wh...   Mar 11 2014, 02:26 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (AccessControl @ Mar 11 2014, 10:26...   Mar 11 2014, 02:35 PM
|- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 11 2014, 10:35 AM) Wh...   Mar 11 2014, 03:09 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Mar 11 2014, 11:09 AM) ...   Mar 11 2014, 03:45 PM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 11 2014, 09:45 AM) Co...   Mar 11 2014, 04:21 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 11 2014, 12:21 PM) ...   Mar 11 2014, 05:33 PM
- - thorya   Not sure if you want house rules, but when I make ...   Mar 11 2014, 03:27 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (thorya @ Mar 11 2014, 11:27 AM) No...   Mar 11 2014, 03:47 PM
- - Smash   Critias covered it all off pretty well. I'll ...   Mar 19 2014, 10:19 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 19 2014, 04:19 PM) I d...   Mar 19 2014, 11:34 PM
- - forgarn   All I can say is that limits bring to light a very...   Mar 20 2014, 01:18 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (forgarn @ Mar 20 2014, 08:18 AM) A...   Mar 20 2014, 01:34 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 21 2014, 12:34 AM) Ne...   Mar 21 2014, 07:33 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 21 2014, 02:33 AM) The...   Mar 21 2014, 11:53 AM
- - forgarn   Faelan, I completely disagree with your line of r...   Mar 21 2014, 01:47 PM
|- - Happy Trees   QUOTE (forgarn @ Mar 21 2014, 07:47 AM) I...   Mar 21 2014, 02:01 PM
||- - Faelan   QUOTE (Happy Trees @ Mar 21 2014, 09:01 A...   Mar 21 2014, 02:39 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (forgarn @ Mar 21 2014, 08:47 AM) F...   Mar 21 2014, 02:50 PM
|- - mister__joshua   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 21 2014, 02:50 PM) YM...   Mar 21 2014, 03:07 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (mister__joshua @ Mar 21 2014, 11:0...   Mar 21 2014, 03:40 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 21 2014, 09:40 AM) Go...   Mar 21 2014, 08:54 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 21 2014, 04:54 PM) An i...   Mar 21 2014, 09:18 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 21 2014, 03:18 PM) Un...   Mar 22 2014, 04:09 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 21 2014, 11:09 PM) You ...   Mar 22 2014, 05:40 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 22 2014, 04:40 PM) So...   Mar 22 2014, 05:53 AM
||- - Faelan   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 22 2014, 01:53 AM) Tha...   Mar 23 2014, 01:28 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 21 2014, 11:40 PM) So...   Mar 22 2014, 05:59 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 22 2014, 01:59 AM) Skil...   Mar 23 2014, 01:30 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 22 2014, 07:30 PM) Ex...   Mar 23 2014, 04:02 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 22 2014, 09:02 PM) One ...   Mar 23 2014, 04:21 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 23 2014, 12...   Mar 23 2014, 01:39 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   One thing on limits: If you're hitting your ...   Mar 22 2014, 01:40 PM
|- - DeathStrobe   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Mar 22 2014, 06:40 AM)...   Mar 23 2014, 10:44 PM
- - RHat   I'm sorry, but the idea that someone would hav...   Mar 23 2014, 09:43 PM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 23 2014, 05:43 PM) I...   Mar 23 2014, 10:07 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Faelan @ Mar 24 2014, 09:07 AM) No...   Mar 24 2014, 08:52 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 24 2014, 03:52 AM) Act...   Mar 24 2014, 08:56 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (Smash @ Mar 24 2014, 04:52 AM) Rai...   Mar 24 2014, 10:58 AM
- - RHat   Things that increase Inherent Limits: Indomitable...   Mar 23 2014, 10:48 PM
- - Faelan   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 23 2014, 06:48 PM) Thin...   Mar 23 2014, 10:59 PM


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