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Mordoth
post Mar 15 2014, 09:46 PM
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Since starting to play 5th Edition, seems like there are lot more instances of near party wipes occurring when there is combat. It's become common for 2-3 members to be in overflow and the rest seriously injured. We've even had several members have to burn edge to avoid total death.

The main thing I can pin-point is the change to automatic fire rules, i.e. now they reduce dodge instead of increasing damage. So I'm looking for ideas on how to mitigate some of this lethality.

I played 4th Edition pretty extensively, and it seems like lethality has quadrupled in 5th Edition.
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- Mordoth   How do you reduce lethality   Mar 15 2014, 09:46 PM
- - Umidori   Increased lethality was one of the design goals fo...   Mar 15 2014, 10:11 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 15 2014, 06:11 PM) D...   Mar 15 2014, 10:25 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Mordoth @ Mar 15 2014, 04:25 PM) T...   Mar 16 2014, 09:07 PM
|- - Draco18s   Following off some of this: QUOTE (Umidori ...   Mar 17 2014, 04:26 PM
- - Lobo0705   I second everything Umidori said. If you want to ...   Mar 15 2014, 10:23 PM
- - FuelDrop   Hmmm... Well, using things like Flash Pacs and smo...   Mar 16 2014, 12:28 AM
- - Cain   You know, I've noticed the opposite. It's...   Mar 16 2014, 09:12 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 16 2014, 03:12 AM) You ...   Mar 16 2014, 09:08 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 16 2014, 02:08 PM) I do...   Mar 16 2014, 10:05 PM
- - Umidori   Man, sixteen successes must be the WORST feeling t...   Mar 16 2014, 11:34 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 16 2014, 07:34 PM) M...   Mar 17 2014, 01:58 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 16 2014, 03:34 PM) M...   Mar 17 2014, 02:10 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2014, 10:10 AM) Luck...   Mar 17 2014, 03:23 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 16 2014, 07:10 PM) Luck...   Mar 17 2014, 02:52 PM
- - Kyrinthic   QUOTE (Mordoth @ Mar 15 2014, 05:46 PM) T...   Mar 17 2014, 03:28 PM
|- - mister__joshua   QUOTE (Kyrinthic @ Mar 17 2014, 03:28 PM)...   Mar 17 2014, 03:33 PM
- - yesferatu   I'm curious what threats your team is facing. ...   Mar 17 2014, 04:55 PM
- - Jack VII   I'm still not entirely sure how something that...   Mar 17 2014, 05:01 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 17 2014, 09:01 AM) ...   Mar 17 2014, 07:52 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2014, 03:52 PM) Acco...   Mar 17 2014, 08:55 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Mar 17 2014, 01:55 PM)...   Mar 18 2014, 12:53 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2014, 06:53 PM) I do...   Mar 18 2014, 01:13 AM
|- - Shortstraw   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Mar 18 2014, 06:55 AM)...   Mar 18 2014, 01:21 AM
- - Umidori   I think where a lot of confusion is cropping up is...   Mar 18 2014, 01:21 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 18 2014, 09:21 AM) I...   Mar 18 2014, 01:25 AM
||- - Achsin   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 17 2014, 07:25 PM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 02:17 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Umidori @ Mar 17 2014, 07:21 PM) I...   Mar 18 2014, 01:27 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 17 2014, 06:13 PM) Not ...   Mar 18 2014, 01:31 AM
|- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2014, 08:31 PM) What...   Mar 18 2014, 01:40 AM
|- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 17 2014, 08:40 PM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 01:46 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 17 2014, 05:40 PM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 07:35 AM
||- - Jack VII   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 18 2014, 02:35 AM) That...   Mar 18 2014, 12:10 PM
||- - Achsin   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 18 2014, 05:10 AM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 03:27 PM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 18 2014, 05:10 AM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 06:29 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Jack VII @ Mar 17 2014, 09:40 PM) ...   Mar 18 2014, 06:51 PM
- - Lobo0705   @Cain, I'm still not sure you are using a goo...   Mar 18 2014, 11:14 AM
- - RHat   Pretty sure the standard of comparison for the unq...   Mar 18 2014, 11:32 AM
- - Ryu   QUOTE (Mordoth @ Mar 15 2014, 10:46 PM) S...   Mar 19 2014, 08:41 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Ryu @ Mar 19 2014, 02:41 PM) All y...   Mar 19 2014, 09:00 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 19 2014, 10:00 PM) Ever...   Mar 19 2014, 09:49 PM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Ryu @ Mar 19 2014, 03:49 PM) Every...   Mar 19 2014, 09:56 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 19 2014, 02:00 PM) Ever...   Mar 19 2014, 09:56 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 19 2014, 03:56 PM) Actu...   Mar 19 2014, 09:58 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 19 2014, 02:58 PM) Armo...   Mar 19 2014, 10:08 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 19 2014, 04:08 PM) Ther...   Mar 19 2014, 10:19 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 19 2014, 03:19 PM) I...   Apr 11 2014, 03:10 AM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 11 2014, 03:10 AM) By t...   Apr 14 2014, 11:44 AM
- - FuelDrop   Last session I 1 hit killed multiple targets in a ...   Apr 14 2014, 12:07 PM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Apr 14 2014, 12:07 PM) ...   Apr 14 2014, 02:44 PM
|- - mister__joshua   QUOTE (Slide_Eurhetemec @ Apr 14 2014, 03...   Apr 14 2014, 02:50 PM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (mister__joshua @ Apr 14 2014, 02:5...   Apr 14 2014, 03:48 PM
- - Cain   I'm certainly willing to admit that my experie...   Apr 14 2014, 10:18 PM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 14 2014, 10:18 PM) Actu...   Apr 15 2014, 09:10 AM
- - RHat   The problem, Cain, is that the increased lethality...   Apr 14 2014, 11:11 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Apr 14 2014, 03:11 PM) The ...   Apr 15 2014, 12:50 AM
- - RHat   You're missing my point. What I'm getting...   Apr 15 2014, 03:28 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Apr 14 2014, 07:28 PM) You...   Apr 15 2014, 06:27 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 15 2014, 12:27 AM) No, ...   Apr 15 2014, 06:49 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Apr 14 2014, 10:49 PM) Yeah...   Apr 15 2014, 07:08 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 15 2014, 01:08 AM) That...   Apr 15 2014, 07:46 AM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 14 2014, 11:27 PM) The ...   Apr 15 2014, 11:51 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 15 2014, 05:51 PM) W...   Apr 16 2014, 12:59 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2014, 06...   Apr 16 2014, 01:06 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (RHat @ Apr 15 2014, 07:06 PM) That...   Apr 16 2014, 01:08 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2014, 07...   Apr 16 2014, 01:12 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 15 2014, 06:51 PM) U...   Apr 16 2014, 03:06 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 15 2014, 08:06 PM) ...   Apr 16 2014, 03:10 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2014, 07...   Apr 16 2014, 03:47 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 15 2014, 09:47 PM) Most...   Apr 16 2014, 04:02 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 15 2014, 09:47 PM) Most...   Apr 16 2014, 01:26 PM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 16 2014, 05...   Apr 16 2014, 02:14 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 08:14 AM) I se...   Apr 16 2014, 02:17 PM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 16 2014, 06...   Apr 16 2014, 02:27 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 08:27 AM) Well...   Apr 16 2014, 02:34 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 16 2014, 09...   Apr 16 2014, 03:10 PM
||- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 16 2014, 03:10 PM) ...   Apr 16 2014, 04:38 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Slide_Eurhetemec @ Apr 16 2014, 11...   Apr 16 2014, 04:51 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 15 2014, 10...   Apr 16 2014, 04:07 AM
- - Blade   When SR4 came out, I remember many people saying t...   Apr 15 2014, 09:17 AM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (Blade @ Apr 15 2014, 09:17 AM) Whe...   Apr 15 2014, 12:04 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Blade @ Apr 15 2014, 02:17 AM) Whe...   Apr 15 2014, 09:11 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Well, you're not taking into account the...   Apr 16 2014, 01:39 AM
|- - Slide_Eurhetemec   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 01:39 AM) The ...   Apr 16 2014, 12:36 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I'm not sure we disagree much here. All ...   Apr 16 2014, 02:10 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE You would be wrong - I usually try to soak t...   Apr 17 2014, 02:05 AM
|- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 09:05 PM) Yes,...   Apr 17 2014, 02:17 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Apr 16 2014, 06:17 PM) ...   Apr 17 2014, 03:48 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 09:48 PM) That...   Apr 17 2014, 04:24 AM
||- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 11:48 PM) That...   Apr 17 2014, 06:17 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:17 PM) ...   Apr 17 2014, 09:29 AM
||- - RHat   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 17 2014, 03:29 AM) Even...   Apr 17 2014, 09:51 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (RHat @ Apr 17 2014, 02:51 AM) I ca...   Apr 17 2014, 11:48 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 16 2014, 07:05 PM) That...   Apr 17 2014, 02:52 PM
- - RHat   ... You know, I need to clarify something: Are y...   Apr 17 2014, 01:06 PM
- - Cain   One shot drops. Wounding is good and all, but a g...   Apr 17 2014, 02:01 PM
- - Lobo0705   So, here is my question. You say you run a pistol...   Apr 17 2014, 02:19 PM
- - Cain   Lobo: I honestly don't know, i haven't pe...   Apr 17 2014, 11:19 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Cain @ Apr 18 2014, 07:19 AM) Lobo...   Apr 17 2014, 11:22 PM
- - Surukai   Sr4 was way more lethal. SnS from a Supermach100 ...   May 6 2014, 09:36 AM
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