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Xystophoroi
post Mar 21 2014, 08:06 AM
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My group is playing SR5 and have - several times - expressed incredulity at just how deadly and generically useful AoE spells and Grenades are.

Reading the SR5 book does seem to imply that only the thrower needs 3 hits and the defender does not dodge (though there is a -2 modifier in there aparently? What are they dodging against at that point?).

Is there an official source I can point people to that explains the correct ruling? With the best will in the world a post in a random forum thread isn't all that 'official' sounding.

Does an FAQ or something exist?
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- Xystophoroi   Grenades, AoE and Dodging   Mar 21 2014, 08:06 AM
- - RHat   There is a FAQ thread on the official boards, wher...   Mar 21 2014, 08:14 AM
|- - irthinker   QUOTE (RHat @ Mar 21 2014, 03:14 AM) Ther...   Aug 7 2014, 04:28 PM
- - Smash   Pretty much what Rhat said. Grenades are too good...   Mar 21 2014, 09:03 AM
- - Stahlseele   In this general direction: Chunky Salsa? And how d...   Mar 21 2014, 10:17 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 04:17 AM...   Mar 21 2014, 11:05 AM
- - Stahlseele   So, i can do several attacks if i don't throw ...   Mar 21 2014, 11:36 AM
|- - Xystophoroi   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 11:36 AM...   Mar 21 2014, 11:40 AM
- - Stahlseele   Is an attack, if i don't aim them at people?   Mar 21 2014, 11:45 AM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 10:45 PM...   Mar 21 2014, 12:09 PM
- - Stahlseele   No, i am throwing it into a room. The People in th...   Mar 21 2014, 12:21 PM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 06:21 AM...   Mar 21 2014, 12:27 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 11:21 PM...   Mar 21 2014, 12:34 PM
- - Stahlseele   So, everything that affects anybody is an attack. ...   Mar 21 2014, 12:43 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2014, 11:43 PM...   Mar 21 2014, 01:04 PM
- - psychophipps   The biggest thing to remember is that the damage h...   Mar 21 2014, 01:54 PM
|- - forgarn   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 21 2014, 08:54 ...   Mar 21 2014, 01:59 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 21 2014, 08:54 ...   Mar 21 2014, 02:46 PM
- - psychophipps   Grenades are certainly cool, they just aren't ...   Mar 21 2014, 02:32 PM
|- - Sternenwind   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 21 2014, 03:32 ...   Mar 21 2014, 03:42 PM
- - Sendaz   Now I am just waiting for some gunsmith to try and...   Mar 21 2014, 03:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 21 2014, 09:53 AM) No...   Mar 21 2014, 04:00 PM
||- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 21 2014, 11...   Mar 21 2014, 04:06 PM
||- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 22 2014, 12:06 AM) Pl...   Mar 31 2014, 08:32 PM
||- - Sendaz   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 31 2014, 03:32 PM) ...   Mar 31 2014, 08:55 PM
||- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 31 2014, 01:55 PM) Wo...   Mar 31 2014, 08:57 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 21 2014, 11:53 AM) No...   Mar 21 2014, 04:02 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 21 2014, 10:02 AM) if y...   Mar 21 2014, 04:07 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 21 2014, 10:53 AM) No...   Aug 8 2014, 08:25 PM
- - psychophipps   Also keep in mind that the effectiveness of a hand...   Mar 21 2014, 08:32 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 21 2014, 01:32 ...   Mar 23 2014, 10:10 AM
- - psychophipps   And the old OSS manuals stated that cutting someon...   Mar 23 2014, 01:21 PM
- - Lobo0705   Here is a show that is a little over the top - but...   Mar 23 2014, 02:00 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Mar 23 2014, 09:00 AM) ...   Mar 23 2014, 02:08 PM
|- - Lobo0705   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 23 2014, 09:08 AM) ...   Mar 23 2014, 02:10 PM
- - psychophipps   So the M67 has 6.5oz of Composition B, about 1.625...   Mar 23 2014, 09:08 PM
- - Sternenwind   How works "trageted by an area-effect attack...   Mar 31 2014, 02:42 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sternenwind @ Mar 31 2014, 09:42 A...   Mar 31 2014, 03:02 PM
- - Umidori   Underbarrel Thor. ~Umi   Mar 31 2014, 10:03 PM
- - FuelDrop   Underbarrel full auto Thor. With a Gas vent system...   Mar 31 2014, 10:09 PM
- - Umidori   Yes, because that extra 9DV on a narrow full burst...   Mar 31 2014, 10:42 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Umidori @ Apr 1 2014, 06:42 AM) Ye...   Mar 31 2014, 10:44 PM
- - Umidori   Welcome to Dumpshock. *punches alien fighter craf...   Apr 1 2014, 12:59 AM
- - Irion   Let's play 4a edition, untill 5a comes out... ...   Apr 5 2014, 05:54 AM
- - Umidori   It's my current philosophy, so I'll take t...   Apr 5 2014, 08:48 AM
- - irthinker   Also, consider that AOE spells do allow a Reaction...   Aug 7 2014, 09:05 PM
- - Jaid   the example doesn't follow the rules presented...   Aug 7 2014, 10:32 PM
|- - irthinker   QUOTE (Jaid @ Aug 7 2014, 05:32 PM) the e...   Aug 8 2014, 01:06 AM
- - Jaid   page 283 also has the rules for AOE indirect spell...   Aug 8 2014, 02:35 AM
- - Surukai   I have made a summary of the rules I found in this...   Aug 8 2014, 08:48 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Surukai @ Aug 8 2014, 04:48 AM) We...   Aug 8 2014, 04:26 PM
- - Jaid   an aggressive hacker won't save you from wirel...   Aug 8 2014, 04:20 PM
|- - Surukai   QUOTE (Jaid @ Aug 8 2014, 06:20 PM) an ag...   Aug 11 2014, 12:16 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Surukai @ Aug 11 2014, 07:16 AM) 2...   Aug 11 2014, 11:22 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Surukai)AoE spells detonate next round -10....   Aug 11 2014, 03:40 PM
- - KarmaInferno   It seems to happen a distressing amount in Mission...   Aug 11 2014, 03:54 PM
- - Jaid   to be fair, with the amount of collateral damage a...   Aug 11 2014, 11:13 PM
- - Surukai   The scenario is not that far off. We are talking r...   Aug 12 2014, 07:01 AM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Surukai @ Aug 12 2014, 03:01 AM) W...   Aug 12 2014, 10:02 AM
- - Surukai   Re: Stilts getting harmed, explosions are terrible...   Aug 12 2014, 02:08 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Surukai @ Aug 12 2014, 09:08 AM) R...   Aug 12 2014, 07:14 PM
- - Jaid   most (or at least many) combats being within ~12 m...   Aug 12 2014, 03:38 PM
- - Surukai   Actually many of your points exist in the books al...   Aug 13 2014, 06:41 AM


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