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Acenoid
post May 26 2014, 07:36 PM
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Hi there!

As a new GM, I still struggle very hard to balance the game and keepin the players at bay. At the moment they are doing very well. Shooting down the opposition quicker than I can fill out the damage boxes. Just with the drones I put a little too much armor on it, and we had to find some special rule to make them able to overcome the obstacle.

Now, we have a bad-ass mage in the group. He has some mind control spells like "influence" and it seemed to work quite well at the moment to easily grab off clues and find solutions without the groups own effort, because I assume most persons have a willpower between 3-5, so they are no match for his abilities it seems.

When he casts influence on someone, and is just matching the willpower/2 of the victim, the spell succeeds. Correct?
Now since it's a perm. spell he has to keep it up 15 rounds (45 seconds or so), though it's effect starts immediately. Correct?

Now the players suggestion is: "you want to give us the project reference code belonging to this piece of information", he hands over a piece of paper to the victim. The victim thinks how he could accomplish this task:
- He would have to attempt to get a proper access because its a different work area and he has to figure out certain ways, calling people asking them for the code, or checking in the computer systems...
- There are a multitude of possibilities from here and since the victim is an employee he would have access to most clues which I laid out for the group to find. Now those clues could be utilized by the victim instead.

So he would start walking silently towards the goal of his task....doing whatever is necessary to accomplish the goal.

2nd Problem with influence:
What would the command "roll over the floor 5.000.000 times", now would the person have to do this until he dies? What happens when he can no longer perform the task?

Or even worse:
"Become my best friend", now would the person be bound to the character, all emotions, fears washed away?

I hope you have some suggestions for me because I don't want to nerf the players but I want to play out the spells as they are intended...
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- Acenoid   Spell - Influence, How far do you have to go   May 26 2014, 07:36 PM
- - Cain   Influence is basically the Jedi Mind trick. It...   May 27 2014, 01:03 AM
- - Acenoid   What is with a command that I would apply into the...   May 27 2014, 04:45 PM
- - Bigity   These spells always give me flashbacks to AD&D...   May 27 2014, 06:23 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Acenoid @ May 27 2014, 08:45 AM) W...   May 28 2014, 07:10 AM
- - sk8bcn   QUOTE (Acenoid @ May 26 2014, 09:36 PM) J...   May 28 2014, 08:23 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (sk8bcn @ May 28 2014, 01:23 AM) By...   May 29 2014, 07:44 AM
- - Tiralee   Offhand? Panther cannon, lightning bolt, ECM, glue...   May 28 2014, 11:15 AM
- - sk8bcn   That was not what I meant. I mean, am I right to ...   May 28 2014, 04:17 PM
|- - Acenoid   QUOTE (sk8bcn @ May 28 2014, 06:17 PM) Th...   May 29 2014, 04:42 AM
- - sk8bcn   well, ok but officially, rule wise, having either ...   Jun 3 2014, 09:07 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Jun 3 2014, 02:07 AM) wel...   Jun 3 2014, 12:55 PM
- - Bigity   Successes damn you Not hits   Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 3 2014, 06:29 AM) Suc...   Jun 3 2014, 01:37 PM
- - sk8bcn   QUOTE Damage Reduction A vehicle’s solidity and he...   Jun 4 2014, 09:35 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Jun 4 2014, 03:35 AM) Doe...   Jun 4 2014, 02:12 PM
- - Bigity   That is correct. However, AV Ammo (removes the ...   Jun 4 2014, 01:26 PM
- - sk8bcn   Ahhhh perfect! That's exactely the kind o...   Jun 4 2014, 02:04 PM
- - Cain   AV ammo is so good as to be frankly ridiculous, af...   Jun 5 2014, 11:13 AM
- - Bigity   Yea basically you get ADPS and AV benefits at the ...   Jun 5 2014, 02:42 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 5 2014, 07:42 AM) Yea...   Jun 6 2014, 12:07 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jun 5 2014, 06:07 PM) It te...   Jun 6 2014, 01:20 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 6 2014, 06...   Jun 7 2014, 09:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jun 7 2014, 03:18 AM) APDS ...   Jun 7 2014, 04:59 PM
- - Tiralee   Re: AV/APDS rounds - Unless your campaign has gon...   Jun 8 2014, 11:12 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 7 2014, 08...   Jun 8 2014, 12:12 PM


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