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Abschalten
post Dec 17 2014, 02:08 AM
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I stopped really caring about this place mostly because of SR5. Sorry, but it's true. This place only exists because of Shadowrun, and the health and quality of the game is going to have a bearing on this place. I found myself only making posts to take potshots at a sub-par edition of what used to be my favorite game. I realized eventually I have better things to do with my time.

I do load up the site occasionally and lurk to see if there's any new posts of interest, but that's maybe every week or two, whereas I was a multiple-times-per-day visitor.

The solution is to fix Shadowrun on the product end. Stop buying the books, let the license go to someone else, maybe they'll do a better job. Then this place might bounce back.
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- Abschalten   Shadowrun Licensing   Dec 17 2014, 02:08 AM
- - Bertramn   How does that licensing work? Is FASA still holdi...   Dec 17 2014, 08:43 PM
- - binarywraith   IIRC, Topps (yes, the baseball card company) owns...   Dec 17 2014, 09:17 PM
|- - Adarael   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Dec 17 2014, 01:17 ...   Dec 29 2014, 02:01 AM
- - Smilingfaces   There is another way, rebellious but we would need...   Dec 18 2014, 09:41 AM
|- - Bertramn   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 18 2014, 10:41 ...   Dec 18 2014, 02:33 PM
|- - Adam   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 18 2014, 04:41 ...   Dec 21 2014, 06:25 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 18 2014, 04:41 ...   Dec 21 2014, 02:32 PM
- - Smilingfaces   Yes I am aware that Topps owns the IP (intellectua...   Dec 21 2014, 08:24 AM
- - flowswithdrek   Does anyone even have a rough idea of how much suc...   Dec 21 2014, 04:26 PM
- - binarywraith   Not to mention the question of what the contract b...   Dec 21 2014, 04:33 PM
- - nezumi   Buying the license isn't realistic. Something ...   Dec 23 2014, 05:03 AM
- - Shemhazai   Six digits? I was thinking on the order of eight. ...   Dec 23 2014, 02:27 PM
- - Smilingfaces   If we crowd fund it, it will generate revenue to b...   Dec 23 2014, 04:54 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 23 2014, 11:54 ...   Dec 23 2014, 05:18 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 23 2014, 10:54 ...   Dec 23 2014, 08:01 PM
|- - Adam   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 23 2014, 12:54 ...   Dec 24 2014, 07:51 AM
- - flowswithdrek   Well, like I said earlier, finding the money would...   Dec 23 2014, 05:30 PM
- - Sendaz   Well, this is where the fun begins as has anyone a...   Dec 23 2014, 05:30 PM
- - nezumi   One thing I think is clear, between the license di...   Dec 23 2014, 06:42 PM
- - Smilingfaces   Thanks Critias for weighing in on all this, could ...   Dec 23 2014, 11:02 PM
- - Critias   Frankly, I think the idea of Dumpshock crowdfundin...   Dec 24 2014, 03:17 AM
- - Cain   Critias is right. It'd be a huge mess. I...   Dec 24 2014, 04:40 AM
- - Smilingfaces   1st off the whole thing to what I said I believe i...   Dec 24 2014, 08:22 AM
- - Bertramn   I like the idea in general, but what we are going ...   Dec 24 2014, 12:58 PM
- - flowswithdrek   @Smilingfaces Don't let the naysayers put you...   Dec 24 2014, 04:08 PM
- - bannockburn   Just a thought here, for the uninitiated: The ...   Dec 24 2014, 04:51 PM
|- - flowswithdrek   QUOTE (bannockburn @ Dec 24 2014, 04:51 P...   Dec 24 2014, 05:38 PM
|- - bannockburn   QUOTE (flowswithdrek @ Dec 24 2014, 06:38...   Dec 24 2014, 10:31 PM
|- - flowswithdrek   QUOTE (bannockburn @ Dec 24 2014, 10:31 P...   Dec 24 2014, 11:11 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (flowswithdrek @ Dec 24 2014, 05:11...   Dec 25 2014, 12:16 AM
- - Critias   I don't even know what this guy's trying t...   Dec 24 2014, 04:53 PM
- - Stahlseele   TOPPS owns the License. And even after CGL basical...   Dec 24 2014, 09:24 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 24 2014, 04:24 PM...   Dec 24 2014, 09:38 PM
||- - Grinder   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Dec 24 2014, 10:38 PM) I ...   Dec 25 2014, 07:27 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 24 2014, 01:24 PM...   Dec 25 2014, 04:00 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Cain @ Dec 24 2014, 10:00 PM) Actu...   Dec 25 2014, 10:49 AM
- - Redjack   The licensing conversation is now in its own threa...   Dec 24 2014, 11:51 PM
- - Jaid   yeah, first things first: topps is a business. you...   Dec 25 2014, 01:59 AM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Jaid @ Dec 24 2014, 07:59 PM) as t...   Dec 25 2014, 02:46 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Even if every Dumpshocker pooled all their life sa...   Dec 25 2014, 03:34 AM
- - Shemhazai   What I want to see is more money spent to develop ...   Dec 25 2014, 03:55 PM
- - nezumi   If you truly want to save Shadowrun, first you hav...   Dec 26 2014, 01:09 AM
- - Smilingfaces   There are still some more comments that have to be...   Dec 26 2014, 02:16 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 25 2014, 09:16 ...   Dec 26 2014, 04:07 AM
|- - Method   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 25 2014, 08:16 ...   Dec 26 2014, 04:17 AM
||- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Method @ Dec 25 2014, 10:17 PM) Th...   Dec 26 2014, 05:30 AM
||- - Sengir   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Dec 26 2014, 06:30 ...   Dec 28 2014, 12:43 AM
|- - Redjack   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 25 2014, 08:16 ...   Dec 26 2014, 05:04 AM
- - nezumi   Suit yourself. I agree with your motivation. I...   Dec 26 2014, 03:49 AM
- - KarmaInferno   You could have all the money in the world. If the ...   Dec 26 2014, 03:57 AM
- - Jaid   first step before starting a crowdfunding project:...   Dec 26 2014, 05:04 AM
- - Bertramn   As far as I can see, a good start would be to ask ...   Dec 26 2014, 10:27 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Bertramn @ Dec 26 2014, 11:27 PM) ...   Dec 27 2014, 02:23 AM
- - Grinder   I doubt that Topps will break a licensing contract...   Dec 27 2014, 12:23 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 27 2014, 04:23 AM) I...   Dec 27 2014, 01:17 PM
- - binarywraith   Honestly, you'd almost have to open the compan...   Dec 27 2014, 03:07 PM
- - nezumi   Binarywraith is right. Topps isn't just worrie...   Dec 27 2014, 04:40 PM
- - Shemhazai   I don't think we're all on the same page. ...   Dec 27 2014, 05:58 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Shemhazai @ Dec 27 2014, 09:58 AM)...   Dec 27 2014, 08:04 PM
- - Grinder   People? You're the only who still follows that...   Dec 27 2014, 07:40 PM
|- - Shemhazai   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 27 2014, 08:40 PM) P...   Dec 27 2014, 10:12 PM
- - binarywraith   As far as getting the license, the hard part's...   Dec 27 2014, 08:10 PM
- - Jaid   topps is definitely making money. the question is ...   Dec 28 2014, 12:13 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Jaid @ Dec 27 2014, 04:13 PM) topp...   Dec 28 2014, 11:08 AM
|- - flowswithdrek   QUOTE (Cain @ Dec 28 2014, 11:08 AM) Prob...   Dec 28 2014, 11:57 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Dec 28 2014, 12:08 PM) Yes,...   Dec 28 2014, 05:48 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Cain @ Dec 28 2014, 05:08 AM) As f...   Dec 28 2014, 06:14 PM
- - Bertramn   Am I not up to date on some of the history here? ...   Dec 28 2014, 12:52 AM
- - Stahlseele   Aside from the comingling of funds, the Freelancer...   Dec 28 2014, 03:02 AM
- - Smash   Forget the license. You'd be better off just ...   Dec 28 2014, 03:29 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Smash @ Dec 27 2014, 10:29 PM) For...   Dec 28 2014, 03:58 AM
|- - WhiskeyJohnny   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Dec 27 2014, 09:58 PM) He...   Dec 28 2014, 07:14 AM
- - Method   You know as I was thinking about this thread today...   Dec 28 2014, 05:00 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Method @ Dec 28 2014, 12:00 AM) Yo...   Dec 28 2014, 05:59 AM
- - Smilingfaces   Wait wasn't that pretty much the idea behind e...   Dec 28 2014, 07:17 AM
- - Bertramn   Well... they are a Corp alright. Anyway, the pr...   Dec 28 2014, 06:43 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 28 2014, 09:48 AM) It...   Dec 28 2014, 11:08 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Cain @ Dec 29 2014, 12:08 AM) Not ...   Dec 29 2014, 01:09 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 28 2014, 05:09 PM) Th...   Dec 29 2014, 03:09 AM
- - Jaid   depending on cost, i wouldn't be surprised if ...   Dec 29 2014, 01:44 AM
- - Draco18s   https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/161326...adow...   Dec 29 2014, 02:14 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Dec 28 2014, 09:14 PM) ...   Dec 29 2014, 02:24 AM
- - Adarael   Yeah, but they also don't pay Microsoft anythi...   Dec 29 2014, 02:19 AM
- - Smilingfaces   http://www.wipo.int/sme/en/ip_business/lic...g/lic...   Dec 29 2014, 07:30 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 28 2014, 11:30 ...   Dec 29 2014, 08:42 AM
- - Smilingfaces   Cain get factual please I am trying to read what y...   Dec 29 2014, 09:23 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 29 2014, 10:23 ...   Dec 29 2014, 06:30 PM
- - binarywraith   Smilingfaces, not trying to be offensive here, but...   Dec 29 2014, 09:27 AM
- - Cain   Intellectual property law is really complex, and i...   Dec 29 2014, 09:52 AM
- - Smilingfaces   Ok that sounds better, I was wondering if your tal...   Dec 29 2014, 10:02 AM
|- - Bertramn   QUOTE (Smilingfaces @ Dec 29 2014, 11:02 ...   Dec 29 2014, 11:44 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Bertramn @ Dec 29 2014, 06:44 AM) ...   Dec 29 2014, 01:48 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Dec 29 2014, 08:48 AM) ...   Dec 29 2014, 02:27 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Dec 29 2014, 08:48 AM) ...   Dec 29 2014, 06:22 PM
- - apple   Well, that is not always easy, especially for (no ...   Dec 29 2014, 10:09 AM
- - Cochise   Microsoft still owns the video games IP part of Sh...   Dec 29 2014, 10:12 AM
- - nezumi   Am I hearing a market for my Drop Bear Adventure? ...   Dec 29 2014, 04:15 PM
- - Sendaz   This isn't the one with the Dikoted CyberZombi...   Dec 29 2014, 04:24 PM
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