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Chance359
post May 12 2004, 07:01 AM
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I'm working on a character's background who spent around 5 years in prison. I've read through the old forums, looked through some third edition books, but I can't find anything about what corrective measures would be taken with augmented or awakened individuals for long periods of time.

I could see anyone who enters into a correctional corp database being cataloged with all known abilities. this could lead to a "Harrison Bergeron" like setup where each individual is given degenerative items to counter their enhancements. This is already cannon in a way with the "Mage Mask".

Location is always a good thing too, placing your more dangerious inmates in areas of restricting climate can act as another layer of captivity.

I could also see a system located in some isolated region where inmates are plugged into sim sense all day, where they sit through "reeducation" classes like ethincs, morality, of knitting (ala Demolition Man).

Any thoughts?
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- Chance359   Prisons and punishment   May 12 2004, 07:01 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Discussion about cyberware and prisons It goes on...   May 12 2004, 07:18 AM
- - Chance359   Damn, missed that one, lack of sleep. Thanks.   May 12 2004, 07:19 AM
- - Kanada Ten   So Ka. I'd have gone on, but... time to sleep ...   May 12 2004, 07:21 AM
- - Synner   I had something called Mage cuffs written up in an...   May 12 2004, 08:45 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (Synner) in SR3 its less restrictive but sti...   May 12 2004, 09:22 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Chance359 @ May 12 2004, 07:01 AM) I c...   May 12 2004, 02:28 PM
- - Abstruse   Try to find the old Lone Star sourcebook somewhere...   May 12 2004, 03:22 PM
- - Nikoli   Could always implant a cranial bomb that goes off ...   May 12 2004, 03:52 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   I always imagined that prison was especially bruta...   May 12 2004, 05:33 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue) I imagine that a LOT of cyb...   May 12 2004, 06:09 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   I figure they'd put more in just to take your ...   May 12 2004, 06:24 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Depends on where you end up. If you're in a c...   May 12 2004, 06:29 PM
- - Nikoli   I'm thinking the "rehab" programs al...   May 12 2004, 06:34 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   True, the government wouldn't want to spend th...   May 12 2004, 07:00 PM
- - Nikoli   Ah, but if you tweak the RAS override gear to turn...   May 12 2004, 07:12 PM
- - Traks   If conservatives can be bought with sweats, can li...   May 12 2004, 07:51 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Yeah, but remember that even in the UCAS SINless h...   May 12 2004, 07:54 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Even with prisons privately owned and run for the ...   May 12 2004, 07:58 PM
- - Centurion   And remember, according to Focault, the purpose of...   May 12 2004, 09:33 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   I'd argue that he's wrong on the purpose, ...   May 12 2004, 11:17 PM
- - Joker9125   Hell i asked my GM about his take on prison and th...   May 13 2004, 03:32 AM
- - Kanada Ten   They have a canonical surgical option that can rem...   May 13 2004, 03:47 AM
- - blakkie   The Magemask is actually in MiTS (page 12). P.S....   May 13 2004, 04:02 AM
- - shadd4d   There's some information in the old Awakenings...   May 13 2004, 08:30 AM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (blakkie) The Magemask is actually in MiTS (...   May 23 2004, 12:11 PM
- - Abstruse   The prisons probably do the drugs-to-Magic-0 thing...   May 23 2004, 01:01 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE The prisons probably do the drugs-to-Magic-0...   May 23 2004, 06:55 PM
- - Wanderer   Quoting from Magic In the Shadows: "for long...   May 23 2004, 07:21 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   Except that it's not exactly a disability. It...   May 23 2004, 07:52 PM
- - Wanderer   Depriving one of his or her inborn abilities is ca...   May 23 2004, 08:22 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   It's the same as telling people that are reall...   May 23 2004, 08:50 PM
- - Wanderer   Preventing hackers from using computers still leav...   May 23 2004, 09:19 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   You presume that the UCAS would find magical abili...   May 23 2004, 10:28 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   Has FASA/Fanpro ever produced a full copy of the U...   May 23 2004, 11:16 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue) and would go miles in terms...   May 23 2004, 11:32 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   That's hearsay. I want to see the actual law t...   May 23 2004, 11:48 PM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) You presume that the UCAS ...   May 24 2004, 08:28 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Purposefully depriving convicted magicians o...   May 24 2004, 05:12 PM
- - Nikoli   It's only cruel if the executioner giggles and...   May 24 2004, 05:13 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   I'll never understand why they prohibited crue...   May 24 2004, 06:01 PM
- - Connor   Unusual punishment is probably in there to keep ju...   May 24 2004, 06:38 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   Does IANAL mean I Am Not A Lawyer? Because if so, ...   May 24 2004, 07:18 PM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (BitBasher)QUOTE Purposefully depriving conv...   May 24 2004, 07:20 PM
- - Nikoli   But, how do you justify to the taxpayers the expen...   May 24 2004, 07:23 PM
- - Person 404   By not doing that...? There are many cheaper metho...   May 24 2004, 07:53 PM
- - Nikoli   How else do you keep astrally projecting inmates f...   May 24 2004, 08:06 PM
- - JaronK   Wards? Perhaps maintained by inmates for the sake...   May 24 2004, 08:11 PM
- - Nikoli   Prisoners doing wards aer a bad idea, too much co-...   May 24 2004, 08:14 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   You don't need a datajack for simsense. Some ...   May 24 2004, 08:27 PM
- - Nikoli   but that can fall out. and doesn't provide th...   May 24 2004, 08:30 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   See edit above. 'Course, a datajack can ...   May 24 2004, 08:33 PM
- - Nikoli   I did not the jack stop, didn't I? but my imp...   May 24 2004, 08:38 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   They only difference is one of speed while decking...   May 24 2004, 08:41 PM
- - Nikoli   good to know. my next awakened character may have...   May 24 2004, 08:48 PM
- - Wanderer   According to MitS, the standard procedure involves...   May 24 2004, 10:55 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   So it's cruel and unusual to make someone a no...   May 25 2004, 01:56 AM
- - Kagetenshi   The difference is that the inability to concentrat...   May 25 2004, 02:23 AM
- - TinkerGnome   The resulting insanity may well be, however   May 25 2004, 02:33 AM
- - Nikoli   Great so instead of predicatble shamans or hermeti...   May 25 2004, 02:35 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE The difference is that the inability to conc...   May 25 2004, 02:41 AM
- - Thistledown   QUOTE (Nikoli) How else do you keep astrally proje...   May 25 2004, 04:01 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE Get enough of any lifeform in the way, such ...   May 25 2004, 04:04 AM
- - Thistledown   Really? Hmm. Must have been remembering an old b...   May 25 2004, 04:11 AM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   As long as they make entrance and exiting 1) alarm...   May 25 2004, 04:14 AM
- - BitBasher   Man, Never underestimate the ability of someone to...   May 25 2004, 04:47 AM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   Once again, any inmate could concievably escape pr...   May 25 2004, 05:05 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Ares Transcript: Hello colonist! Welcome to ...   May 25 2004, 05:14 AM
- - Joker9125   I seriously doubt that making a magican mundane wo...   May 25 2004, 05:47 AM
- - BitBasher   All I can say ROUS is that your expectations of wh...   May 25 2004, 05:47 AM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   Yes, and I'm sure you work in one. Complete w...   May 25 2004, 06:07 AM
- - Thistledown   BTY: George Fell was one of the operators on the ...   May 25 2004, 06:45 AM
- - Person 404   One thing to think about here is, how many prisons...   May 25 2004, 06:45 AM
- - SporkPimp   What are the physiological effects of astral proje...   May 25 2004, 07:07 AM
- - TinkerGnome   Person 404 brings up a point I almost made yesterd...   May 25 2004, 12:07 PM
- - Nikoli   And let us not forget, the implantation of a dataj...   May 25 2004, 12:28 PM
- - Abstruse   Cruel and Unusual. I can say you can't use a ...   May 25 2004, 12:45 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Just how many large, magical-security prisons woul...   May 25 2004, 12:59 PM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) The resulting insanity may wel...   May 25 2004, 02:50 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   Unless they're using BTL or even CalHot levels...   May 25 2004, 02:57 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Wanderer) QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ May 25 ...   May 25 2004, 03:44 PM
- - Nikoli   A short trip down with a sudden stop I'd imagi...   May 25 2004, 03:47 PM
- - BitBasher   http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm There you...   May 25 2004, 03:59 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The number of mages would probably be lower than 1...   May 25 2004, 04:04 PM
- - BitBasher   That's a very very bad assumption The world is...   May 25 2004, 04:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   But most skillsets that would otherwise be unused ...   May 25 2004, 04:09 PM
- - BitBasher   No, I realize that, but im trying to say that 80% ...   May 25 2004, 04:15 PM
- - Nikoli   Also, you don't tend to be knocked unconscious...   May 25 2004, 04:15 PM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) QUOTE (Wanderer @ May 25 ...   May 25 2004, 04:19 PM
- - Nikoli   There is a difference between Allowable punishment...   May 25 2004, 04:29 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Inhumane? Try to convince a dozen mundane humans ...   May 25 2004, 04:36 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   QUOTE Inhumane? Try to convince a dozen mundane hu...   May 25 2004, 05:14 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Society determines what is humane and what is not....   May 25 2004, 05:23 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I could see things like this happening immediately...   May 25 2004, 05:24 PM
- - TinkerGnome   While I'll agree that it's probably less c...   May 25 2004, 05:32 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE It's on the exact same level as racism. ...   May 25 2004, 05:34 PM
- - Wanderer   QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ May 25 2004, 06:23 PM) S...   May 25 2004, 05:48 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Again, while everyone might know what a mage can d...   May 25 2004, 05:54 PM
- - A Rodent of Unusual Size   QUOTE QUOTE In Shadowrun, trolls, orks, dwarves, a...   May 25 2004, 06:02 PM
- - Neon Tiger   Ok, joke time: . <- This is your @$...   May 25 2004, 07:24 PM
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