 whats the difference?, SMG's and machine pistols |
 May 14 2004, 10:37 PM
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i have been reading some things on the web and i have not been able to figger out what the difference is between a SMG and a machine pistol
so could you please give me a definition for each (smg and machine pistols) in shadowrun terms. thank you in advance |
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xizor whats the difference? May 14 2004, 10:37 PM
Eyeless Blond SR firearms work like this: take everything you kn... May 14 2004, 10:49 PM Arethusa Make sure to throw your brain down with the rest o... May 14 2004, 10:54 PM Phaeton RE: whats the difference? May 14 2004, 10:57 PM Entropy Kid Machine pistols use the Pistol skill, SMGs use the... May 14 2004, 11:05 PM Moonwolf SR machine pistols are the smaller sized ones, SR ... May 14 2004, 11:06 PM RangerJoe As a GM, machine pistols have their use. As in the... May 14 2004, 11:41 PM Shadow QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) SR firearms work like this: ... May 14 2004, 11:56 PM toturi As a GM, I use Machine Pistols for one thing and q... May 15 2004, 12:05 AM Arethusa Shit, Shadow, you're right. That must be why ... May 15 2004, 12:06 AM Zazen QUOTE (Shadow @ May 14 2004, 06:56 PM) Machin... May 15 2004, 12:07 AM Kanada Ten Machine Pistols only require the Pistols skill, wh... May 15 2004, 12:10 AM toturi QUOTE (Arethusa @ May 15 2004, 08:06 AM) Righ... May 15 2004, 12:12 AM Shadow QUOTE (Arethusa) Xizor, SR's machine pistols, ... May 15 2004, 12:13 AM Arethusa Right, Shadow. Because human beings can't gai... May 15 2004, 12:19 AM toturi Like I said many times, if you don't enforce a... May 15 2004, 12:20 AM Luke Hardison The usefulness of suppressive fire with a machine ... May 15 2004, 12:22 AM Shadow Sure they can. But I wouldn't take advice from... May 15 2004, 12:23 AM Eyeless Blond Bah. Here I am trying to crack a joke and everyone... May 15 2004, 12:41 AM OurTeam My understanding is that you purchase Light Pistol... May 15 2004, 12:44 AM Entropy Kid QUOTE My understanding is that you purchase Light... May 15 2004, 12:50 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Shadow) Sure they can. But I wouldn't t... May 15 2004, 12:55 AM Luke Hardison QUOTE (Entropy Kid @ May 14 2004, 07:50 PM) Q... May 15 2004, 01:00 AM Zazen QUOTE (Arethusa) Are machine pistols completely wo... May 15 2004, 01:02 AM Entropy Kid -thanks LH. No matter how many times I look at th... May 15 2004, 01:26 AM OurTeam We play a game where APDS is hard to get, and Mach... May 15 2004, 01:33 AM The White Dwarf Rules wise, theres plenty of reason to use them. ... May 15 2004, 02:04 AM kevyn668 I like MPs. They're fun for the whole family May 15 2004, 02:17 AM TinkerGnome Burst fire from a machine pistol is 9m with a dodg... May 15 2004, 02:17 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE Kanada, the SM doesn't figure in Suppres... May 15 2004, 02:19 AM Luke Hardison Well stated, Kanada. May 15 2004, 02:22 AM Zeel De Mort If you really go to town with customising your mac... May 15 2004, 03:57 AM Arethusa If you and your GM are happy with Conceal 10 assau... May 15 2004, 04:45 AM Zeel De Mort Yep, SMGs are generally pretty concealable. It... May 15 2004, 04:59 AM Shadow QUOTE (Arethusa) QUOTE (Shadow @ May 14 2004,... May 15 2004, 05:22 AM Arethusa Right. Because telling him that his attempts to u... May 15 2004, 05:28 AM cutter07 I'll make it really realy easily for you,..
a... May 15 2004, 05:29 AM Dweller on the Threshold Since when have machine pistols been deemed worthl... May 15 2004, 05:32 AM Shadow QUOTE (Arethusa) Right. Because telling him that ... May 15 2004, 05:40 AM Arethusa QUOTE (cutter07)a SMG is basically a burst fire an... May 15 2004, 05:46 AM Kanada Ten Chance of Police spotting Heavy Pistol 29.76%
Chan... May 15 2004, 05:57 AM The White Dwarf The thing everyons forgetting about the conceal is... May 15 2004, 06:16 AM Arethusa The Morrissey Alta carries 12 rounds, is just as c... May 15 2004, 06:27 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE Would someone please explain why these are s... May 15 2004, 06:37 AM Arethusa And so can everything else I listed, and they... May 15 2004, 06:56 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE And so can everything else I listed, and the... May 15 2004, 07:04 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Kanada Ten)You seem to think that Street In... May 15 2004, 07:20 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE ...just like I know I'll never drag a .2... May 15 2004, 07:28 AM Oddfellow I think Kanada's last point is really importan... May 15 2004, 07:36 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Kanada Ten)Interesting, but the mobster is ... May 15 2004, 07:37 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE Then I think, hummm, those conceal 5 SMGs an... May 15 2004, 07:44 AM Zazen I'm surprised no one mentioned the tactic of u... May 15 2004, 08:21 AM Entropy Kid Drifting into that spooky zone of GM discretion, I... May 15 2004, 08:58 AM otomik capsules are too easy. i'd prefer to ignore th... May 15 2004, 09:01 AM Siege I've never carried a machine pistol because it... May 15 2004, 09:15 AM Austere Emancipator Definitions of Machine Pistol and SMGs have been r... May 15 2004, 09:53 AM TinkerGnome QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Steyr TMP = MP,
Ev... May 15 2004, 01:59 PM Siege The P-90 was (and is) classified as a PDW.
Of co... May 15 2004, 02:07 PM Arethusa A PDW skill? Come on, the firearms skills are alr... May 15 2004, 02:17 PM Siege QUOTE (Arethusa) A PDW skill? Come on, the firear... May 15 2004, 03:05 PM Jaded Just a point on the real life handling of weapons.... May 15 2004, 04:41 PM The White Dwarf Yes, people should stop trying to make the rules m... May 15 2004, 04:44 PM Dweller on the Threshold Not that it matters, but I've always viewed Ma... May 15 2004, 04:48 PM John Campbell QUOTE (Oddfellow)I'm no gun expert, but I... May 15 2004, 05:47 PM Jaded QUOTE And for extra fun, which guns are the good o... May 15 2004, 06:13 PM Arethusa QUOTE (Jaded)The effectiveness of RL firearms has ... May 15 2004, 07:40 PM Kanada Ten The bottom right corner of the Weapon Record PDF h... May 15 2004, 08:22 PM Phaeton QUOTE (Kanada Ten) The bottom right corner of the ... May 15 2004, 09:59 PM Dissonance Heh. Well, as far as pistols go, I'd have to ... May 15 2004, 10:36 PM The White Dwarf I already did........
As pistols MP's have hi... May 15 2004, 11:04 PM Sahandrian QUOTE (Jaded) Unless you are pulling out real guns... May 15 2004, 11:28 PM Austere Emancipator The thing I'm most proud of with my revamping ... May 15 2004, 11:45 PM Arethusa QUOTE (Phaeton)m. The right-hand one looks like a ... May 15 2004, 11:48 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE On a slightly related note, I'm glad tha... May 15 2004, 11:59 PM A Clockwork Lime QUOTE The concealability is almost a nonexistant a... May 16 2004, 12:03 AM eidolon QUOTE Only in the munchkinland you seem to play in... May 16 2004, 05:49 AM The White Dwarf The damage code on suppression is irrelevent. The... May 16 2004, 08:55 AM toturi QUOTE (The White Dwarf) The damage code on suppres... May 16 2004, 12:36 PM The White Dwarf Correct, misread a line. Point still stands its a... May 16 2004, 01:46 PM Austere Emancipator Doesn't Suppressive Fire work so that addition... May 16 2004, 01:53 PM The White Dwarf Nope, p107 CC
If you get the free attack, and lan... May 16 2004, 02:08 PM Austere Emancipator Wow, you're absolutely correct. I'd always... May 16 2004, 02:24 PM Person 404 Probably thinking of searching fire which, IIRC, d... May 16 2004, 02:45 PM Phaeton Pardon my lack of rules-fu, but what is searching ... May 16 2004, 03:00 PM The Jopp QUOTE (Arethusa) Right, because that 6L damage is ... May 16 2004, 03:04 PM Person 404 QUOTE (Phaeton) Pardon my lack of rules-fu, but wh... May 16 2004, 03:10 PM I Eat Time I don't get it. In the games I've played i... May 16 2004, 04:08 PM Austere Emancipator 40 rounds of anything cannot be fit inside a pisto... May 16 2004, 04:43 PM Siege QUOTE (Phaeton) Pardon my lack of rules-fu, but wh... May 16 2004, 05:03 PM TinkerGnome Would caseless ammo account for the smaller size? ... May 16 2004, 05:03 PM A Clockwork Lime Caseless ammunition is the norm, so the house rule... May 16 2004, 05:26 PM TinkerGnome It is? I was under the impression that both were ... May 16 2004, 05:28 PM A Clockwork Lime They're both equally available. Check out the... May 16 2004, 05:30 PM Siege Sure, but the Glock 18 can be equipped with a 31 r... May 16 2004, 05:45 PM I Eat Time AE; The only things I can think of are maybe an un... May 16 2004, 08:13 PM Zeel De Mort Maybe they can afford to make bullets smaller in t... May 16 2004, 08:49 PM Austere Emancipator When I said "fit into a pistol grip" abo... May 16 2004, 09:56 PM I Eat Time Jeez, those cylinders are flat-out ugly. That... May 17 2004, 08:39 AM Arethusa It wouldn't. No amount of future technology... May 17 2004, 08:43 AM
Austere Emancipator Like I said, going caseless doesn't really red... May 17 2004, 11:05 AM  |
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