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post May 26 2004, 04:16 AM
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I’ve been reading threads on this board for a while, and I’ve seen numerous people say that certified cred is completely untraceable.

I’m wondering where this idea came from. Yes, it doesn’t have any ID associated with it, but it does have a serial number and there is a bank account associated with that serial number. So when corp a pays you with a certified credstick, they could theoretically track what, and where you purchased with it. You can’t just transfer it to another certified credstick either, because the bank will log that transaction and the serial number of the new credstick. It isn’t perfect because you could always give the credstick away or it could be stolen from you. It really comes down to how interested is corp A in keeping tabs on you.

I’ve been thinking about this for a while because of the rules for counterfeiting certified cred in SSG. The hardest part is always how do you clean it?
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- Arleigh   certified cred, untraceable?   May 26 2004, 04:16 AM
- - Ancient History   Actually, no they can't. The electronic funds...   May 26 2004, 04:27 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I've been saying that for *years* but the real...   May 26 2004, 04:29 AM
- - Arleigh   I'm not sure I agree with that. But it reall...   May 26 2004, 04:34 AM
- - Mr. Man   QUOTE (Arleigh)So when corp a pays you with a cert...   May 26 2004, 04:35 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Arleigh)I’ve been reading threads on this b...   May 26 2004, 04:36 AM
- - Lindt   From my stand point, cert cred is the easy way to ...   May 26 2004, 04:48 AM
- - Arleigh   I don't believe that any corp beancounters wou...   May 26 2004, 04:49 AM
- - Kanada Ten   But they can't afford those connections. Gett...   May 26 2004, 04:52 AM
- - Lindt   Hence DENIABLE assests. Observe: Corp Court Invest...   May 26 2004, 05:04 AM
- - Mr. Man   QUOTE (Arleigh) I don't believe that any corp ...   May 26 2004, 05:10 AM
- - Ancient History   At very best, a serial number can track the ultima...   May 26 2004, 05:13 AM
- - Cain   Well, here's the thing. While someone can tra...   May 26 2004, 05:17 AM
- - Arleigh   If anyone works in the phone card industry feel fr...   May 26 2004, 07:51 AM
- - Xirces   Certified cred exists only on the stick. THERE IS ...   May 26 2004, 08:43 AM
- - toturi   Good example, Xirces. If A tipped B using a certi...   May 26 2004, 02:35 PM
- - Arleigh   The material in SSG isn't clear cut like many ...   May 26 2004, 03:13 PM
- - Nikoli   They'll see that no new credits went into the ...   May 26 2004, 03:17 PM
- - Reaver   One of the older sourcebooks talked about Fuchi (b...   May 26 2004, 03:23 PM
- - Nikoli   Let us not forget the "vanishing" money....   May 26 2004, 03:24 PM
- - Arleigh   "They'll see that no new credits went int...   May 26 2004, 03:35 PM
- - Nikoli   but, there is basic financial transaction logs kep...   May 26 2004, 03:38 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE One of the older sourcebooks talked about Fu...   May 26 2004, 05:59 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Reaver) One of the older sourcebooks talked...   May 26 2004, 06:16 PM
- - Bearclaw   So far as I can tell, it goes like this: Certified...   May 26 2004, 06:39 PM
- - Caine Hazen   I like Xirces point, but I'd compair the Cred ...   May 26 2004, 07:25 PM
- - Erebus   I've always run that the nuyen on certified cr...   May 27 2004, 02:45 PM
- - Nikoli   Bingo. Very well put Erebus. The system doesn...   May 27 2004, 02:49 PM
- - Veracusse   However, the store themselves can care. If Joe ru...   May 27 2004, 03:35 PM
- - Erebus   Veracusse, in regards to what I said previously, t...   May 27 2004, 03:52 PM
- - Veracusse   Erebus, QUOTE Veracusse, in regards to what I sai...   May 27 2004, 06:08 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Veracusse) So Certified Credsticks will be ...   May 27 2004, 07:32 PM
- - Nikoli   They'll know which stick made the purchase, bu...   May 27 2004, 07:38 PM
- - Erebus   Veracusse & Nikoli, Exactly. The certified cr...   May 27 2004, 08:14 PM
- - Nikoli   Would be a good job for an otaku with infor sortil...   May 27 2004, 08:15 PM
- - Veracusse   This is what shadowruns are all about Certified ...   May 28 2004, 05:17 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE ...but at least a trail could be traced back...   May 28 2004, 05:24 AM
- - Cain   The thing to remember, V, is that while the cred t...   May 28 2004, 06:44 AM
- - Backgammon   I'm with you on that Veracusse, but also with ...   May 28 2004, 02:32 PM
- - Veracusse   And I would like to add that I am with Backgammon,...   May 28 2004, 05:14 PM
- - Cain   You have a point. I tend to assume that any savvy...   May 28 2004, 05:24 PM
- - BitBasher   In my game we simplify it down to having specific ...   May 28 2004, 05:31 PM
- - Veracusse   Well I tend to run a tough game. When players com...   May 28 2004, 05:32 PM
- - Veracusse   Most pcs also use their fixer or other appropriate...   May 28 2004, 05:37 PM


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