 Arrow Design, continued from 'Need help making...' |
 Sep 21 2004, 05:43 PM
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Continuing from here.
I do not question the capability of such broadhead designs to penetrate those, or flesh, or plate mail, but modern (2004) body armor is orders of magnitude tougher than that, and it'll get a whole lot tougher in 60 years. If you're hoping to get the arrow to penetrate any armor, going with a broadhead won't leave any extra space for explosives either -- the blades will have to be kept extremely thin. It would allow for a bit of extra fragments which might come in handy -- for a non-armor piercing variant, a big broadhead would be best to maximize fragmentation. I still maintain that a very sharp point is the way to go if armor penetration is required, and thus the +1 Power of Dikote is a good comparison.
This might work if the explosives are in a cone towards the rear of the arrow and the whole front is filled with easily fragmenting material. If triggered once the head (still preferably pointed) has penetrated the armor, optimally much of the shock wave and fragmentation would pass through that hole. It's a rather risky way of getting the same effect as with a very basic explosive arrow design. If you've already got the arrowhead through armor (a big if), you can probably get most of the arrow through that hole. Once it's up to the fletching in the armor or stopped, set off the tubular explosive charge starting from the rear -- this should prove plenty lethal with an easily fragmenting material for the shaft. |
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Austere Emancipator Arrow Design Sep 21 2004, 05:43 PM
Sargasso Since when is dikoting an arrow not enough? Sep 21 2004, 05:44 PM Austere Emancipator Since the moment someone wanted an armor piercing ... Sep 21 2004, 05:50 PM Sargasso Me too. Dikoted arrows are cannon, and simple rule... Sep 21 2004, 05:51 PM GenoSicK Actually, in the CC, it became 8S, so it would be ... Sep 21 2004, 05:58 PM Lindt Oddly, a broadhead arrow will tear into modren day... Sep 21 2004, 06:00 PM Austere Emancipator Stupid me, I read "Barbed Head" as ... Sep 21 2004, 06:02 PM Sargasso True, but dikoted arrows fired by a strong archer ... Sep 21 2004, 06:03 PM Apathy I agree with everything everyone has said in this ... Sep 21 2004, 06:04 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Lindt)Oddly, a broadhead arrow will tear in... Sep 21 2004, 06:15 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Apathy)What is the theoretical viability of... Sep 21 2004, 06:32 PM Lindt Meh, Im still on the low end. It used to, then t... Sep 21 2004, 06:35 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Selection and Application Guide to Personal... Sep 21 2004, 06:42 PM xizor what 10 years if your layer is good, 60 if he isnt... Sep 22 2004, 01:06 AM Edward You say SR armour is really effective but check ou... Sep 22 2004, 07:53 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Edward) You say SR armour is really effecti... Sep 22 2004, 07:57 AM Firewall QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) And BTW, metal rifle p... Sep 22 2004, 08:18 AM GenoSicK Hmmmm... Detritus.... My Hero ! Sep 22 2004, 10:09 AM Botch QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Sep 21 2004, 07:... Sep 22 2004, 10:20 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Botch)Utilizing the front of a hollow shaft... Sep 22 2004, 10:54 AM Zenmaxer Okay, here's what I've got... I checked th... Sep 22 2004, 11:39 AM Botch I was indicating that a high STR human archer woul... Sep 22 2004, 12:38 PM Botch QUOTE (Zenmaxer) ... At this speed an obsidian ar... Sep 22 2004, 12:52 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Botch)You need to stop comparing bullets to... Sep 22 2004, 01:35 PM Zenmaxer okay, the issue however is the profile of impact. ... Sep 22 2004, 02:49 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Zenmaxer)most bullets have a blunt impact p... Sep 22 2004, 03:58 PM Zenmaxer My main issue here is that I don't think the f... Sep 22 2004, 04:40 PM Botch Rule of thumb in play
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