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FrostyNSO
post Sep 25 2004, 11:28 PM
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Reading these boards has led me to believe that with shadowrunners, looting is the norm rather than the exception. I didn't know this until now.

I don't pay my players all that much, but more than they could make doing something safer. Generally, they don't have problems keeping cred in their wallet, and are still able to buy certain toys/luxuries when they need to. Every once in a while they run short of cash, but they tighten their belts and get by.

One run we went on, they had a few opportunities to snag some SMG's and credsticks. They passed them by, even though the loot would have made for a decent boost to their income for that run.

After the run, I asked my players why they didn't grab the loot. One of them said:
"We're not getting paid to loot."
I was like, 'Oh, cool.'

They never loot. There have been times when due to badluck/malfunction/no ammo, a PC has had to 'liberate' a piece of equipment from an NPC in order to complete the run. After the run is completed, the equipment in neatly disposed of rather than kept. These guys have weapons that they've had since character creation, and don't hassel their contacts every week for Ares Alphas.

I guess what it comes down to is that I have frugal players, and I love it. Good roleplayers, no munchkins, and believable.

Though I've never left a crate in a facility clearly labled 'Fairlight', so we'll see when that comes up.
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- FrostyNSO   My players don't loot.   Sep 25 2004, 11:28 PM
- - Siege   How many paranoid runners will actually stop and i...   Sep 25 2004, 11:38 PM
- - toturi   My players loot, but usually it is not for the cas...   Sep 25 2004, 11:47 PM
- - FSBO   I played Shadowrun at a convention one time w/ 3 p...   Sep 26 2004, 12:03 AM
- - Die blaue Reiterin   Well, in my gamin group, no one used to loot place...   Sep 26 2004, 12:57 AM
- - SimpleRunner   I agree with Siege. Runners won't go for thing...   Sep 26 2004, 01:10 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   Hey a little looting is ok, excessive looting lead...   Sep 26 2004, 03:04 AM
- - Ezra   My group doesn't really loot, except for the o...   Sep 26 2004, 04:26 AM
- - Axe   My players loot, but I think it's cause they a...   Sep 26 2004, 04:37 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   I guess it depends. I haven't looted... yet. A...   Sep 26 2004, 05:13 AM
- - FrostyNSO   Heh, I can't get a PC to play a Dwarf to save ...   Sep 26 2004, 05:16 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   I love dwarves in SR. You couldn't pay me to p...   Sep 26 2004, 05:33 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   I would really try and discourage layers who full ...   Sep 26 2004, 11:25 AM
- - Icarus   I am ashamed I'm no munchkin, but i've pl...   Sep 26 2004, 12:09 PM
- - Lilt   When I play, I do loot. However, I only really loo...   Sep 26 2004, 12:22 PM
- - Edward   What archetypes are thay playing and how much do y...   Sep 26 2004, 12:29 PM
- - Abstruse   I had 4 players in my last game and they would loo...   Sep 26 2004, 01:06 PM
- - Siege   Performing a body-cavity search on the corpses and...   Sep 26 2004, 02:19 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (FrostyNSO)After the run, I asked my players...   Sep 26 2004, 02:43 PM
- - Skeptical Clown   The game slows down too much if the players are lo...   Sep 26 2004, 03:52 PM
- - Siege   Looting is a perk of the job unless expressly note...   Sep 26 2004, 04:14 PM
- - Edward   Cyber surgery on a run is always a bad idea. I h...   Sep 26 2004, 04:30 PM
- - Luke Hardison   This is something I have to address every game. R...   Sep 26 2004, 06:01 PM
- - Siege   Uh...um... For much the same reason he can't ...   Sep 26 2004, 06:24 PM
- - RangerJoe   Once he's done extracting the bone lacing, he ...   Sep 26 2004, 06:42 PM
- - iPad   about 50% of my characters gear is looted, pritty ...   Sep 26 2004, 06:57 PM
- - Siege   Pretty impressive list of salvage. -Siege   Sep 26 2004, 08:44 PM
- - OurTeam   I suggest pulling out the cyberware later. In my e...   Sep 26 2004, 10:34 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) I guess what it comes down to is...   Sep 26 2004, 11:06 PM
- - Shanshu Freeman   QUOTE (Siege) If you're penetrating a live, h...   Sep 26 2004, 11:20 PM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Shanshu Freeman) QUOTE (Siege @ Sep 26...   Sep 26 2004, 11:20 PM
- - Shanshu Freeman   QUOTE (Siege) QUOTE (Shanshu Freeman @ Sep 26...   Sep 26 2004, 11:26 PM
- - Siege   Not without yoga. -Siege   Sep 26 2004, 11:27 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Die blaue Reiterin)One thing that puzzle me...   Sep 27 2004, 04:11 AM
- - Lindt   As a reply to the original post: Can I play with y...   Sep 27 2004, 02:13 PM
- - The Question Man   Our group doesn't loot on the RUN itself, but ...   Sep 27 2004, 05:28 PM
- - iPad   QUOTE (The Question Man) Our group doesn't loo...   Sep 27 2004, 07:06 PM
- - FrostyNSO   I hear ya, who wants a new pistol when you have ye...   Sep 27 2004, 09:44 PM
- - FSBO   Just a couple thoughts, Shotguns, pistols, grenade...   Sep 27 2004, 10:50 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FSBO) (Which fence in town specializes in A...   Sep 27 2004, 11:00 PM
- - FSBO   ok which street chemist is dicoating the bullets.   Sep 27 2004, 11:04 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FSBO) ok which street chemist is dicoating ...   Sep 27 2004, 11:29 PM
- - Edward   One more reason to have your own chemistry shop. ...   Sep 28 2004, 05:29 AM
- - Siege   Well, that and better rules on what is required to...   Sep 28 2004, 05:33 AM
- - DarkShade   in a typical published adventure, if you meet any ...   Sep 28 2004, 07:59 AM
- - Voran   Heh. I blame the 80s, but since I grew up watchin...   Sep 28 2004, 10:35 AM
- - Siege   True, but consider this - a character with a decen...   Sep 28 2004, 12:44 PM
- - Luke Hardison   QUOTE (Seige)...can you imagine what would happen ...   Sep 28 2004, 01:32 PM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Luke Hardison) QUOTE (Seige)...can you imag...   Sep 28 2004, 01:51 PM
- - Blaze   My players don't so much not loot as realise t...   Sep 28 2004, 02:37 PM
- - Canid13   QUOTE (iPad) about 50% of my characters gear is lo...   Sep 28 2004, 03:44 PM
- - iPad   I was ignoring the foci as only one player gets a ...   Sep 28 2004, 10:46 PM
- - wargear   In our current game, all ganger characters, we loo...   Sep 29 2004, 03:51 PM
- - Canid13   iPad, if I were going to do that then I'd have...   Sep 29 2004, 04:00 PM
- - Ed_209a   Anyone had a player scavenge cyberware by petrifyi...   Sep 29 2004, 04:13 PM
- - Nylan   thats just about the grossest thing I've ever ...   Sep 29 2004, 08:46 PM
- - RangerJoe   Wow. An idea that excellent should be in spoiler t...   Sep 29 2004, 08:53 PM
- - nezumi   One of my players has something close. He missed ...   Sep 29 2004, 09:22 PM
- - Req   Couldn't you just lock the dead troll in the c...   Sep 29 2004, 09:44 PM
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- - FSBO   So FrostyNSO did you get a satisfactory answer?   Sep 30 2004, 02:53 AM
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- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Canid13) An OpFor mage may have a F5 Shield...   Oct 4 2004, 02:43 PM
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- - blakkie   QUOTE (Canid13) Kagetenshi, I've only rarely u...   Oct 5 2004, 01:56 PM
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- - Fortune   QUOTE (DocMortand) I swear, I think my players are...   Oct 10 2004, 11:39 PM
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