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post Oct 12 2004, 11:27 PM
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I designed this weapon to fill what I preserved to be a hole in the market. I tried to make it balanced although to do this I did have to break the weapon design rules 3 times (in 2 cases to the weapons benefit, in another to its detriment).

The Ares HP232 versatile gun

Designed to accept 2 different clip sizes with its 6 round clip the HP232 is one of the most concealable weapons on the market being of totally ceramic construction and using caselles ammunition. The lager 40 round clip is much more difficult to conceal but provides staying power when combined with the weapons burst fire capability. The HP232 comes with our latest SL2 package as standard. The weapon will allow you to fire a 3 round burst threw the removable silencer we provide but doing so will void your warenty.

>>>>>>>(Void your warranty is what they say, destroy your silencer is what happens. Throws your aim right out and doesn’t work as well as a sound suppressor after the first shot. And do you think it’s a standard silencer. Noooo 1500 nuyen special order. More if you want it in less than a week and you wont find them on the black market. Don’t get me wrong it’s a great weapon but you don’t want to use burst fire with the silencer.)<<<<<<
-gun bunny 5

rules points. I allowed this weapon to mount a silencer in spite of the fact that it is burst fire capable. If you use the burst fire with the silencer attached you damage the silencer imposing +1TN and reducing its effectives to that of a sound suppressor. 2 shots latter it becomes completely useless. If you roll more 1s than successes on the first burst or any subsequent shot internal parts of the silencer have detached and jammed the gun. Removing the silencer will remove all penalties. The choice of clip is normally a no advantage option but I imposed a conceal ability penalty for using the lager clip.

Heavy pistol
Shortened barrel
Level 3 ceramic construction (undetectable by MAD)
SA-SA/BF
Improved conceal ability 2
Weight decrease 6
Internal smart gun 2
Extended clip.
Range finder
Silencer +.2kg & -2 conceal when attached
Improved FCU 6 (.25 unused)

Damage 9M
Mode SA/BF
Conceal ability 7 or 3
Weight 2.05
Ammo 6c or 40c
Mounts barrel, top
FCU 0.25
DPV 780

3900 nuyen

Anybody have any comments.

Edward
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- Edward   Pistol design.   Oct 12 2004, 11:27 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   Why break the rules to make a super gun? Why would...   Oct 12 2004, 11:31 PM
- - Siege   Um... Besides the obvious jokes, exactly what hol...   Oct 12 2004, 11:33 PM
- - Raygun   Heh. The ceramic-caseless-burst-fire-capable-silen...   Oct 12 2004, 11:42 PM
- - Siege   I'm trying to visualize a handgun with a drum ...   Oct 12 2004, 11:44 PM
- - Edward   I would use any other HP in the game if I wanted b...   Oct 12 2004, 11:49 PM
- - Siege   Cough. Is that a balrog in your pocket or are you...   Oct 12 2004, 11:56 PM
- - Edward   Any constructive criticism? Now that you know wha...   Oct 13 2004, 12:00 AM
- - Siege   Um...wow. Ok, I don't know how constructive t...   Oct 13 2004, 12:08 AM
- - Kagetenshi   The larger clip, having no separate conceal, can b...   Oct 13 2004, 12:16 AM
- - Arethusa   The Glock 18 can take a 17 round standard mag or a...   Oct 13 2004, 12:52 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)The larger clip, having no separ...   Oct 13 2004, 12:58 AM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Siege @ Oct 12 2004, 06:44 PM) I'm...   Oct 13 2004, 01:04 AM
- - Raygun   And oddly enough, the Luger 08 artillery drum hold...   Oct 13 2004, 01:14 AM
- - Edward   I forgot that little bit of mechanics. Then the ...   Oct 13 2004, 02:46 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   40 round clip conc 4, BBB referenbce to concealabi...   Oct 13 2004, 03:05 AM
- - Kagetenshi   That's for the ammo itself, not the clip. So f...   Oct 13 2004, 03:08 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   riight so the party sneaks enough ammo for the sam...   Oct 13 2004, 03:37 AM
- - Arethusa   If your problem is such that you need ammunition a...   Oct 13 2004, 03:47 AM
- - Zenmaxer   Alternatively you can simply seal your hi-c clip i...   Oct 13 2004, 03:50 AM
- - Siege   QUOTE (mmu1) QUOTE (Siege @ Oct 12 2004, 06:4...   Oct 13 2004, 03:51 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (Zenmaxer) Alternatively you can simply seal...   Oct 13 2004, 03:53 AM
- - Siege   I think it depends on just how airtight the bag is...   Oct 13 2004, 04:01 AM
- - Zenmaxer   :: nods :: considering that it would be very easy ...   Oct 13 2004, 04:04 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I just have hermetically sealed magazines availabl...   Oct 13 2004, 04:05 AM
- - Siege   B/R Hermetically Sealed Containers. -Siege   Oct 13 2004, 04:09 AM
- - Glyph   I prefer Shamanically Sealed Containers, myself. ...   Oct 13 2004, 05:52 AM
- - Kagetenshi   But you can only have one of them per domain at a ...   Oct 13 2004, 05:56 AM
- - Edward   Indeed Sun Tzu's was a great tactician I start...   Oct 13 2004, 06:50 AM
- - Canid13   When it comes to clip weights, I ignore the weight...   Oct 13 2004, 06:58 AM
- - Kagetenshi   +1 to Dodge. ~J   Oct 13 2004, 12:12 PM
- - Canid13   Okay, granted, but if it's for an infiltration...   Oct 13 2004, 12:56 PM
- - Kagetenshi   You can only surprise two guards at a time. My ma...   Oct 13 2004, 02:48 PM
- - ShadowGhost   QUOTE (Canid13) When it comes to clip weights, I i...   Oct 13 2004, 02:49 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ShadowGhost)Otherwise, with the weight of t...   Oct 13 2004, 02:55 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (ShadowGhost)Oth...   Oct 13 2004, 03:12 PM
- - Lindt   When it comes down to it, how many people playing ...   Oct 13 2004, 03:33 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   An empty Glock 17 standard model is 625 grams. The...   Oct 13 2004, 03:33 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Edward)I would use any other HP in the game...   Oct 13 2004, 04:39 PM
- - Canid13   QUOTE (lindt)how many people playing SR actually k...   Oct 13 2004, 05:51 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   Yeah it's on your sheet, but does it really se...   Oct 13 2004, 05:54 PM
- - Canid13   According to the rules as printed in the rulebook,...   Oct 13 2004, 06:01 PM
- - JaronK   But seriously, that's absolutely silly. A str...   Oct 13 2004, 06:12 PM
- - Fortune   The weight of ammo (and guns) is so far off in Sha...   Oct 13 2004, 06:15 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I know I enforce rules for encumbrance simply beca...   Oct 13 2004, 06:36 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Fortune) The weight of ammo (and guns) is s...   Oct 13 2004, 06:46 PM
- - Edward   If I had stuck to the rules the gun would have bee...   Oct 13 2004, 11:56 PM
- - Glyph   I do think you've made this gun too good at ev...   Oct 14 2004, 06:12 AM
- - Canid13   A Royal Marine Commando carries, on a normal route...   Oct 14 2004, 11:26 AM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Canid13)In my games, the value for each poi...   Oct 14 2004, 04:56 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   In years of playing I can remember few instances w...   Oct 14 2004, 05:02 PM
- - Young Freud   QUOTE (Canid13)A Royal Marine Commando carries, on...   Oct 14 2004, 05:20 PM
- - Canid13   Yeah, that's true Freud. But since no-one I...   Oct 15 2004, 10:10 AM
- - Crusher Bob   The magazine sizes sounds a bit off, aauming its a...   Oct 15 2004, 11:04 AM


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