 Wow, I just realized that you can't make an M15, using firearm customization from CC |
 Nov 21 2004, 05:21 AM
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I was sitting down this evening and decided it would be fun to make a M15 rifle using the firearms customization rules in Cannon Companion.
However, I found out that it's actually impossible to do this for two reasons: 1.) It seems impossible to remove BF mode from any given firearm frame. Although the Full Auto customization on page 82 removes Burst Fire, it only affects pistols or SMGs, apparently. 2.) Getting 20 ammo capacity just from the frame seems to be impossible for the frames that would be appropriate for an M15. But I guess that could probably be remedied by the Extended Clip mod on pg. 81. However, it seems like you'd have to carefully select a base ammo capacity less than 20 rounds for that to work. Does anyone have an idea on how to get around problem number 1, which seems like the biggest obstacle? Or is it...impossible! (doomed, doomed, dooooomed!) (It seems like you could achieve 20 round magazine and SA/FA fire modes using the submachinegun frame, but that would be really really inappropriate for a M15.) |
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Wounded Ronin Wow, I just realized that you can't make an M15 Nov 21 2004, 05:21 AM
Doctor Funkenstein 1) Use the DP cost but reverse all the other char... Nov 21 2004, 05:46 AM Arethusa Out of curiosity, why an M15? Nov 21 2004, 05:58 AM Clyde What is an M15? Nov 21 2004, 07:21 AM KarmaInferno Perhaps he means AR15?
-karma Nov 21 2004, 07:30 AM mfb no, he meant M15. or, well, he could have. the M15... Nov 21 2004, 07:35 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Arethusa @ Nov 21 2004, 12:58 AM) Out ... Nov 21 2004, 08:27 AM mfb i never make battle rifles with the AR frame. i al... Nov 21 2004, 08:31 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Daniel E. Watters @ http://www.thegun... Nov 21 2004, 12:14 PM toturi You are looking for something that gives SA/BF/FA.... Nov 21 2004, 02:04 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (toturi)Remember BF in SR is not always a fi... Nov 21 2004, 04:33 PM Da9iel Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the arg... Nov 21 2004, 04:44 PM Austere Emancipator Well, yeah, you could say that about every and eac... Nov 21 2004, 05:00 PM hobgoblin hmm, i theory you can pull of a BF useing FA in sr... Nov 21 2004, 05:17 PM lodestar This looks like an "Ask Raygun" thread. Nov 21 2004, 05:23 PM mfb there are two significant differences between firi... Nov 21 2004, 07:31 PM Shockwave_IIc And the fact it's a 5 round minium Nov 21 2004, 07:38 PM Austere Emancipator If you use the logic that any FA-capable weapon ca... Nov 21 2004, 07:40 PM Doctor Funkenstein Eh, just rationalize it out a bit. Say that actio... Nov 21 2004, 07:45 PM mfb eh, it should require some skill to be able to fir... Nov 21 2004, 07:49 PM Austere Emancipator Firing exactly 3 rounds every time, that takes ski... Nov 21 2004, 08:07 PM mfb yeah, austere, but if you fire 4 rounds, you'r... Nov 21 2004, 08:13 PM Arethusa So let it be a simple action. Is that seriously a... Nov 21 2004, 08:24 PM mfb to me, yeah, it's a problem. SR's crazy-as... Nov 21 2004, 08:31 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (mfb)to me, yeah, it's a problem.
Then y... Nov 21 2004, 08:40 PM mfb er, like which? none of the weapons in SR are real... Nov 21 2004, 08:50 PM Doctor Funkenstein Dear god, man! Don't mention that to the ... Nov 21 2004, 08:52 PM Austere Emancipator Whichever ones you like. If you don't like gru... Nov 21 2004, 08:53 PM mfb grunts can already do that, with FA, by divvying u... Nov 21 2004, 08:58 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (mfb)i also disagree with your position that... Nov 21 2004, 09:10 PM Doctor Funkenstein Out of curiosity, why do they bother with SA/BF/FA... Nov 21 2004, 09:11 PM Austere Emancipator Why not? Additional moving parts, complexity of bu... Nov 21 2004, 09:13 PM mfb burst fire is easier to control in combat. in trai... Nov 21 2004, 09:16 PM Austere Emancipator The panic-factor. But that cannot be properly enfo... Nov 21 2004, 09:21 PM mfb bah, you post while i edit. and, yeah, i agree--bu... Nov 21 2004, 09:22 PM Doctor Funkenstein So, the basis behind my question stands. Consider... Nov 21 2004, 09:26 PM Austere Emancipator I bet some of the more tactics-centered ones do.
... Nov 21 2004, 09:26 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)assault rifles that only... Nov 21 2004, 09:37 PM Doctor Funkenstein Considering, again, that there is no harm in it be... Nov 21 2004, 09:40 PM Austere Emancipator This is a question that should probably be asked f... Nov 21 2004, 09:43 PM Arethusa The problem with the SA/FA M16 and M16A1 was that ... Nov 21 2004, 09:44 PM Doctor Funkenstein Well, yeah, but I imagine that by 2060, the techno... Nov 21 2004, 09:52 PM mfb ritalin much, arethusa? Nov 21 2004, 09:53 PM Arethusa QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Well, yeah, but I imagi... Nov 21 2004, 09:59 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)Well, yeah, but I imagin... Nov 21 2004, 10:00 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE ...it still remains a superfluous system tha... Nov 21 2004, 10:06 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Nov 21 2004, 07:... Nov 21 2004, 10:21 PM mfb prevailing paradigms change, though, and they... Nov 21 2004, 10:23 PM Arethusa QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) The M15 was used briefly in ... Nov 21 2004, 10:43 PM Wounded Ronin Hmm, maybe I did mean M14, then. Nov 21 2004, 11:25 PM toturi QUOTE (Arethusa) M14 seems more likely, as everyth... Nov 21 2004, 11:42 PM Arethusa Stop! Everything you say makes my brain hurt... Nov 22 2004, 12:44 AM mfb heh, it's true. the M14 would be a sport rifle... Nov 22 2004, 01:02 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE ...it still remains a sup... Nov 22 2004, 01:54 AM Crusher Bob I don't think and M15s were actually issued, a... Nov 22 2004, 02:23 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Crusher Bob) If the choice was between the ... Nov 22 2004, 02:27 AM
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