Intiate Grades ... who's the big gun?, Oddball, but. Options

[Johnny Reb]

So, the Immortal Elves usually aren't statted up, do huge magic, yadda yadda yadda. Talk I've seen around here puts them at initiate grades not just in the double-digits, but the *high* double-digits. Like, fifty, sixty, eighty levels of initiation.

That hurts my widdle head.

So, I did some digging around today while bored and found a few things.

Great Dragons are, by definition, level 10 Initiates or higher. How much higher isn't known, but I don't think as high as the things I've seen here in the past discuss. Not even close. I'd think 10-15 for all save the Big D and maybe Lung.

Mr Darke, said to be Harlequin's equal, is a 6th level Initiate. Even I think that's a bit low and would guess him to be closer to 10, myself.

The Black Lodge, supposedly *the* be-all end-all of magic hoohah has seven people in the ten and up league, capped with the grand master at about grade 15. I'd wager him to be stronger then Harlequin, personally.

The Blood Mage Gestalt has an initiate grade, when combined, of 30. This is known to dwarf *any* other magical being in the Sixth World, and by a good margin. I'd think that 15 to 20 would be the *utter* max for, say, Dunklezhan.

Anybody else have a view on this, yay or nay? I know the published dragons are all quite a bit less than this, but, everyone has their own take on things.

-- Johnny Reb