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Deadeye
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One of my players-to-be has created a pretty wiz little hermatic with a great backstory. The character had a childhood disease, so his physical stats are limited (via the Infirm flaw), but he also had some bioware installed as a result (I allowed a little cultured bio because it fit with the character's story of being a semi-bedridden accademic). Originally, he had planned to have a level 3 Power Focus to start out, to offset the loss of his Essense/Magic, and, again, it fit with the character concept.

Then he borrowed MitS.

Suddenly, he has the idea of investing an animal with a Force 3 or 4 ally spirit, probably 3. He also happens to be a big R.A. Salvatore fan, and wants to have the animal be a Panther. Hold on, says I, you can't drag a panther around the sprawl with you. "Well how about if I learn the Shapechange spell on its behalf? Or create a limited version of the spell (he's got spell design 6) that allows her to change into human form and then learn it for her?" Let me get back to you, I said.

So. The closest I could come to a Panther is the critter stats for a tiger. Assuming that he just goes with a Force 3 ally, though technically he could do a force 4, the physical stats alone would break down like this (shapechanged human form in parenthesis):
Str 11 (3)
Bod 11 (3)
Quik 8 (3)
Cha 6
Int 9 (the mage has got bio and an exceptional stat merit)
Wil 6
Reaction 8 (6)
Init 8+3d6 (6+1d6)
Attack of 10S +1 reach.

This doesn't take into account skills and such that he might buy for it, but lemme ask a series of questions:

Should I allow this? I want to, because a physically weak character having a "bodyguard" sounds good within the confines of the character, which is always a big thing for me.

Can his ally have the shapechange spell bought for it right off the bat, and if so, what force should I insist that he take it at?

What are the advantages/disadvantages of having an ally spirit in a form such as this, beyond the normal problems and benifits one gets from an ally?

I'm leaning towards telling him that I'll allow this, but not at character creation; maybe as part of initiation if he ever does it. I don't think he realizes how big a deal only having 4 magic points will be. Thoughts?
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- Deadeye   Ally spirits in animal bodies   Dec 1 2004, 04:03 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE Should I allow this? I want to, because a ph...   Dec 1 2004, 04:08 AM
- - toturi   You could tell him that the Ally Spirit can have m...   Dec 1 2004, 04:24 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   If he's a big Drizzt fan <cringes>, a st...   Dec 1 2004, 04:30 AM
- - Deadeye   Dr. Funk--Thanks for the input. The shapechange s...   Dec 1 2004, 04:30 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Under most circumstances, a spirit's Force is ...   Dec 1 2004, 04:31 AM
- - Deadeye   Hmm. One last thing and I'll let you be. How...   Dec 1 2004, 04:37 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   This is one of those areas the rules never really ...   Dec 1 2004, 04:43 AM
- - Fortune   All Critters use Reaction in place of Combat Skill...   Dec 1 2004, 04:44 AM
- - Deadeye   Ah. Many thanks, both of you. Now I'm headed...   Dec 1 2004, 04:45 AM
- - Gilthanis   I agree with the others in the fact that not givin...   Dec 1 2004, 07:29 AM
- - Deadeye   Gil-- Interesting point, and one that I had consid...   Dec 1 2004, 07:13 PM
- - Gilthanis   That explains having high stats on skills but not ...   Dec 1 2004, 07:21 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   I don't have a Strength of 9 (mine's close...   Dec 1 2004, 07:33 PM
- - lorthazar   Actually if you think about it the Intelligence of...   Dec 1 2004, 07:35 PM
- - Gilthanis   Intelligence can be roleplayed. Strength requires ...   Dec 1 2004, 07:43 PM
- - Deadeye   Freaking retard...someone has missed their sensiti...   Dec 1 2004, 08:32 PM
- - Gilthanis   It would be just as simple as saying....going to t...   Dec 1 2004, 09:23 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Oy. Then I guess there's no reason to have an...   Dec 1 2004, 09:32 PM
- - Deadeye   Fair enough. But how do you then justify a human ...   Dec 1 2004, 09:39 PM
- - Gilthanis   I don't deny any of your points for having the...   Dec 2 2004, 06:45 AM
- - Deadeye   Fair enough. I actually have them all doing 125pt...   Dec 2 2004, 08:08 AM
- - Voran   I guess the problem with a 9 int, is that in SR, i...   Dec 2 2004, 11:12 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE And Sorry Doc...wrong again. You shouldn...   Dec 2 2004, 04:07 PM
- - Gilthanis   Are you saying that this character will have a qui...   Dec 2 2004, 04:42 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Yes I did. I'm sorry that your argument is so...   Dec 2 2004, 04:51 PM
- - Lindt   Just remember, ally sprits use up a truck load of ...   Dec 2 2004, 05:43 PM
- - Deadeye   Yup, did the math wrong on the combat pool. C...   Dec 3 2004, 07:45 AM
- - Fortune   IIRC, the Infirm Flaw only lowers the Attribute ma...   Dec 3 2004, 07:57 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   It's a weird flaw. If it lowers the Attribute...   Dec 3 2004, 07:59 AM
- - Fortune   That makes sense.   Dec 3 2004, 08:04 AM


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