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hey guys ,fortune wrote questions into shadoqfax ,one of the questions was about improved invisibility and turning objects invisible.and did the force have anything to do with fooling cameras ect....

the answer was basically this only time the force is important is when your trying to turn an object invisible ie...like a camera you have to beat the o/r of it by the force to actually turn the camera invisible.

thats all good we dont run around turning cameras and stop signs invisible even though that could be usefull.my question is this [do you have to beat the o/r of the items your carrying to turn them invisible? i mean lets think ....your carrying a gun,credstick,armored clothing,sunglasses ect...do you have to beat those o/r to turn invisible ? i hope you all understand what im trying to ask....it would put a limit on the improved invisibility spell that everymage runs around with at force 1.
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- gamemaster   improved invisibility   Jan 31 2005, 01:41 AM
- - Lycan   If you want an official position just go the FAQ i...   Jan 31 2005, 01:53 AM
- - Tarantula   Lycan you misuderstood. ShadowFAQ answered statin...   Jan 31 2005, 02:47 AM
- - gamemaster   i understand what it says on shadowfaq ,blaa blaa ...   Jan 31 2005, 02:47 AM
- - gamemaster   so tarantula ,whats your answer you do need to bea...   Jan 31 2005, 02:49 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (gamemaster) so tarantula ,whats your answer...   Jan 31 2005, 03:27 AM
- - Fortune   I would say no, the spell's Force does not hav...   Jan 31 2005, 06:44 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Fortune) I would say no, the spell's Fo...   Jan 31 2005, 08:23 AM
- - toturi   Is your intent to destroy the computer? If yes, th...   Jan 31 2005, 09:20 AM
- - OurTeam   My character's intent is to go back in time an...   Jan 31 2005, 10:59 AM
- - toturi   Canon says you can't.   Jan 31 2005, 11:00 AM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (toturi) Is your intent to destroy the compu...   Jan 31 2005, 02:08 PM
- - CanvasBack   Why would you want to destroy the Computer? The C...   Jan 31 2005, 04:37 PM
- - BitBasher   But in [game] reality magic does not work on inten...   Jan 31 2005, 05:04 PM
- - Gilthanis   Oh no. He said in Reality.   Jan 31 2005, 05:16 PM
- - Tarantula   Reality meaning a bunch of guys following rules fo...   Jan 31 2005, 05:18 PM
- - Cochise   Some thoughts here again (previously stated in sim...   Jan 31 2005, 05:43 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Tarantula) Reality meaning a bunch of guys ...   Jan 31 2005, 05:51 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (gamemaster) .my question is this [do you ha...   Jan 31 2005, 07:28 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) BTW, Invis 1 isn't eve...   Jan 31 2005, 07:30 PM
- - Gilthanis   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) QUOTE (gamemaster @ J...   Jan 31 2005, 07:31 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   Damn, sorry, I read my SR2 book the other night a ...   Jan 31 2005, 07:40 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)Right.  You can't ...   Jan 31 2005, 08:06 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   In my group we frown at Spells with force <3, s...   Jan 31 2005, 08:17 PM
- - Tarantula   So Grinder, by your logic to affect a doberman dro...   Jan 31 2005, 09:39 PM
- - James McMurray   If I'm reading his quote right, his logic says...   Jan 31 2005, 09:42 PM
- - Shaudes29   you forget to add in the drones body and 1/2 its a...   Jan 31 2005, 09:51 PM
- - James McMurray   That's for generating the target number. The n...   Jan 31 2005, 09:57 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Jan 31 2005, 02:39 PM) So ...   Jan 31 2005, 10:14 PM
- - James McMurray   A drone's object rating is always 8 (or at lea...   Jan 31 2005, 10:19 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Shaudes29) you forget to add in the drones ...   Jan 31 2005, 10:20 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   Got it. SR3.150. So OR + Body + 1/2 armor is the ...   Jan 31 2005, 10:26 PM
- - Kanada Ten   To use Invisibility on a Vehicle one needs to make...   Feb 1 2005, 12:23 AM
- - ShadowGhost   You're still casting the spell *around* the ob...   Feb 1 2005, 01:28 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (ShadowGhost) We house rule that all illusio...   Feb 1 2005, 01:33 AM
- - John Campbell   QUOTE (Kanada Ten) To use Invisibility on a Vehicl...   Feb 1 2005, 01:43 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Mum, still shows that Indirect Illusions can be ca...   Feb 1 2005, 01:45 AM
- - gamemaster   okay guys ,i understand what your all saying and i...   Feb 1 2005, 04:22 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I've always said the same thing about it: ...   Feb 1 2005, 04:29 AM
- - BitBasher   Yeah. and I disgaree it works that way, if the spe...   Feb 1 2005, 04:33 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I like the idea that intent is inherent in magic. ...   Feb 1 2005, 04:47 AM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE Usually whenever this dis...   Feb 1 2005, 09:33 AM
- - Moon-Hawk   I agree with Kanada Ten. We're very used to sp...   Feb 1 2005, 01:51 PM
- - Tarantula   MH. Yes, target still resists, however casting sp...   Feb 1 2005, 02:07 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   But the spell isn't affecting the subject in a...   Feb 1 2005, 02:35 PM
- - Tarantula   Subject is what the spell is cast on. In order fo...   Feb 1 2005, 02:37 PM
- - Kanada Ten   No where in the rules about OR does it talk about ...   Feb 1 2005, 02:42 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Tarantula) Subject is what the spell is cas...   Feb 1 2005, 02:45 PM
- - Tarantula   Alright, so to tie this into the doberman thread.....   Feb 1 2005, 02:56 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Tarantula) Alright, so to tie this into the...   Feb 1 2005, 02:59 PM
- - Tarantula   Not really many... ultrasound, proximity detectors...   Feb 1 2005, 03:06 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Strictly by the rules, you can't make your dob...   Feb 1 2005, 03:28 PM
- - Tarantula   I didn't say the drone was the only problem ka...   Feb 1 2005, 03:30 PM
- - Kanada Ten   The rules specifically state subject person or are...   Feb 1 2005, 03:34 PM
- - Tarantula   So if its specifically person, why does anything o...   Feb 1 2005, 03:42 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Tarantula, I think of it as either being cast over...   Feb 1 2005, 03:46 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Tarantula)So if its specifically person, wh...   Feb 1 2005, 03:58 PM
- - Tarantula   So what if my intent is to strap a dwarf on a dobe...   Feb 1 2005, 04:14 PM
- - Shaudes29   well if you wanted an invisibility spell that was ...   Feb 1 2005, 04:20 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Tarantula)So what if my intent is to strap ...   Feb 1 2005, 04:22 PM
- - Tarantula   The earth has its own aura, and thus isn't the...   Feb 1 2005, 04:51 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Tarantula: I submit that it is because the clothe...   Feb 1 2005, 05:08 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Tarantula) Shaudes, I'm using the princ...   Feb 1 2005, 05:08 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Yes, yes, yes, obviously game balance. But we wan...   Feb 1 2005, 05:10 PM
- - Tarantula   Why isn't the doberman in a dwarfs aura? What...   Feb 1 2005, 05:14 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   As a GM, I would have to seriously consider lettin...   Feb 1 2005, 05:15 PM
- - James McMurray   There isn't one. And I don't think there c...   Feb 1 2005, 05:15 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Tarantula)The earth has its own aura, and t...   Feb 1 2005, 05:20 PM
- - Tarantula   I'm going off what you guys say, because thing...   Feb 1 2005, 05:20 PM
- - James McMurray   Tarantula: I can almost gaurantee you that you...   Feb 1 2005, 05:23 PM
- - Tarantula   Hey, I'm taking what you guys say, and applyin...   Feb 1 2005, 05:28 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Tarantula)Hey, I'm taking what you guys...   Feb 1 2005, 05:33 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (ShadowGhost) You're still casting the s...   Feb 1 2005, 05:49 PM
- - Shaudes29   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) Your not casting it aroun...   Feb 1 2005, 06:44 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Shaudes29)So even if the sensors are a rati...   Feb 1 2005, 07:04 PM
- - DocMortand   I hate to bump an old thread, but rather than star...   Apr 4 2005, 03:53 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Well, it would either be one of those or something...   Apr 4 2005, 04:03 AM
- - JaronK   Disclaimer: What I am about to say is entirely my...   Apr 4 2005, 05:20 AM
- - DocMortand   QUOTE (JaronK @ Apr 4 2005, 12:20 AM) In my g...   Apr 4 2005, 05:43 AM
- - Astelaron   Is invisibility to powerful? Low force improved i...   Apr 4 2005, 09:17 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Astelaron) Under Indirect Illusion Spells p...   Apr 4 2005, 09:29 PM
- - Astelaron   I suppose this is debatable for some but for me th...   Apr 4 2005, 11:26 PM
- - John Campbell   QUOTE (DocMortand) Question: A Sammy has Improved...   Apr 5 2005, 12:04 AM
- - Fester   No spell has been the subject of more confusion; t...   Apr 5 2005, 01:49 AM
- - DocMortand   Thanks for the input guys - the varying perspectiv...   Apr 5 2005, 05:30 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Astelaron) implies that all indirect illusi...   Apr 5 2005, 05:41 AM
- - Astelaron   QUOTE (hahnsoo) They aren't. (Improved) Invis...   Apr 5 2005, 11:01 PM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (DocMortand) Is an interesting take on thing...   Apr 5 2005, 10:06 PM
- - hahnsoo   I've always played it that Invisibility encomp...   Apr 5 2005, 10:30 PM


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