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rlemansky
post Feb 16 2005, 11:15 AM
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Greetings.

I'd like to avoid any munchkin issues, but I'm at bit of a loss. Why would anyone play a Magical Adept over a full Mage? Can't most of the adept powers be simulated with either Magic or Low Essence cyber-ware? If so, what advantage is gained by being an Adept? What am I missing?

Any input's appreciated.

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- rlemansky   Magical Adept vs. Mage   Feb 16 2005, 11:15 AM
- - Ranneko   2 words, B priority Or alternately: Lower cost S...   Feb 16 2005, 11:18 AM
- - Critias   No you don't. Being an Adept of the Magician...   Feb 16 2005, 11:19 AM
- - GentlemanLoser   Improved Ability: X Weapon Focus. Centering 2 (You...   Feb 16 2005, 11:23 AM
- - Ranneko   True, misread. My mistake. Well there are adept p...   Feb 16 2005, 11:24 AM
- - Endgame50   Well, it depends on which way you're developin...   Feb 16 2005, 11:34 AM
- - GentlemanLoser   Ambidextrous + Improved Pistols + Enhanced Aim + C...   Feb 16 2005, 11:40 AM
- - Grinder   I have an magician adept in my current group. Work...   Feb 16 2005, 12:07 PM
- - GentlemanLoser   Isn't there a limited astral projection metama...   Feb 16 2005, 12:11 PM
- - Grinder   Don't know at the moment. The player of that c...   Feb 16 2005, 12:27 PM
- - Fortune   Limited Astral Projection is a Metamagic from SotA...   Feb 16 2005, 02:35 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Created with the house rule that magician adepts g...   Feb 16 2005, 02:49 PM
- - Tarantula   I'm sorry, any aptitude (some combat skill her...   Feb 16 2005, 03:03 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Quick Strike, Multitasking, Improved Senses (not r...   Feb 16 2005, 03:05 PM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Tarantula) I'm sorry, any aptitude (som...   Feb 16 2005, 03:17 PM
- - Fortune   Actually, the recommendation is against all Combat...   Feb 16 2005, 03:26 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Ah, alright. The point about nobody being a natur...   Feb 16 2005, 03:34 PM
- - Tarantula   But, a body of 15 isn't as game-breaking as -1...   Feb 16 2005, 04:01 PM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Tarantula) But, a body of 15 isn't as g...   Feb 16 2005, 04:10 PM
- - U_Fester   I would have the body of 15 over aptitude any day ...   Feb 16 2005, 04:37 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (U_Fester) I would have the body of 15 over ...   Feb 16 2005, 04:42 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Dawnshadow) Only the lightning spells and t...   Feb 16 2005, 04:43 PM
- - Cynic project   Um, those cyber troll don't like the fallowing...   Feb 16 2005, 04:46 PM
- - mfb   given the current rules, the mage will quickly and...   Feb 16 2005, 05:27 PM
- - Fortune   If the rules for Magician Adept Initiation were fi...   Feb 16 2005, 05:30 PM
- - mfb   indeed. heck, if the rules for magician's way ...   Feb 16 2005, 05:32 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Fixed? It'd work if the description was writt...   Feb 16 2005, 05:48 PM
- - Rev   The infusion focus is another thing thrown into th...   Feb 16 2005, 05:58 PM
- - Fortune   It's that incoherency that led to the ludicrou...   Feb 16 2005, 05:59 PM
- - mfb   an adept who gets only metamagics at initiation, a...   Feb 16 2005, 06:04 PM
- - Rev   Except that they can spend the points on adept pow...   Feb 16 2005, 06:09 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Dawnshadow) Troll, Aptitude Polearms, reach...   Feb 16 2005, 06:09 PM
- - mfb   pshaw. they'll both go down when the mage slap...   Feb 16 2005, 06:16 PM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Tarantula) Also, yes, the troll would tear ...   Feb 16 2005, 06:29 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Grinder) I have an magician adept in my cur...   Feb 16 2005, 06:41 PM
- - BitBasher   Oh hell no. QUOTE Beyond that, a single light wo...   Feb 16 2005, 06:44 PM
- - mfb   the balance shift is less huge in magic and deckin...   Feb 16 2005, 06:48 PM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE Beyond that, a single ligh...   Feb 16 2005, 08:14 PM
- - mfb   yes, but with magic, it's not generally as clo...   Feb 16 2005, 08:20 PM
- - DrJest   Where I really found a physmage to be an advantage...   Feb 16 2005, 08:31 PM
- - Dawnshadow   True mfb-- but raising or lowering the target numb...   Feb 16 2005, 08:31 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Sam hit I believe it was 3 times over the fi...   Feb 16 2005, 08:46 PM
- - Dawnshadow   It's sudden enough when neither one gets more ...   Feb 16 2005, 08:54 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (Dawnshadow) It's sudden enough when nei...   Feb 16 2005, 08:58 PM
- - Cynic project   I have yet to see a magical adept that was good at...   Feb 16 2005, 09:54 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Dawnshadow) Body 15, on the other hand, is ...   Feb 16 2005, 10:02 PM
- - The White Dwarf   For magicians way adepts vs full magicians, its mo...   Feb 16 2005, 10:21 PM
- - Shockwave_IIc   QUOTE (Forune)Limited Astral Projection is a Metam...   Feb 16 2005, 10:26 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) QUOTE (Forune)Limited Astral...   Feb 17 2005, 12:04 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) You turn round in a conversa...   Feb 17 2005, 01:09 AM
- - Crimson Jack   Its interesting to hear so many people saying that...   Feb 17 2005, 05:01 AM
- - BitBasher   after a few hundred karma anyone with a long term ...   Feb 17 2005, 05:31 AM
- - Crimson Jack   I didn't make my point very clear. The physma...   Feb 17 2005, 05:52 AM
- - Cynic project   Have you seen a Voodoun with 300 karma?   Feb 17 2005, 05:55 AM
- - Crimson Jack   No, but in the one game that I get to play in, my ...   Feb 17 2005, 05:57 AM
- - mfb   that's abnormal. in nine cases out of ten, a f...   Feb 17 2005, 06:03 AM
- - Cynic project   Well, I had one that got around 170 karma I think....   Feb 17 2005, 06:12 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (mfb) that's abnormal. in nine cases out...   Feb 17 2005, 06:12 AM
- - Glyph   An adept of the magical way that is made with a ga...   Feb 17 2005, 06:57 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 16 2005, 1...   Feb 17 2005, 07:56 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (Glyph) An adept of the magical way that is ...   Feb 17 2005, 07:57 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (Cynic project) Well, I had one that got aro...   Feb 17 2005, 08:06 AM
- - Sharaloth   So far I've seen two Magicians Way Adepts in t...   Feb 17 2005, 08:22 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Sharaloth) though he Ally has a bad habit o...   Feb 17 2005, 02:16 PM
- - tisoz   IMO, Aptitude (melee skill) is easier balanced and...   Feb 17 2005, 04:03 PM
- - Tarantula   No, advantage isn't neutalized, he has an adva...   Feb 17 2005, 04:27 PM
- - Drain Brain   I have made a couple of Magical Adepts, normally t...   Feb 17 2005, 04:46 PM
- - CoalHeart   Physmages or Magical Adepts whatever you want to c...   Feb 17 2005, 06:06 PM
- - GentlemanLoser   If you haven't seen it, check out my Optimisin...   Feb 17 2005, 06:21 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE Boon to the Magic Casting side of him is the...   Feb 17 2005, 06:21 PM
- - mfb   not true. M&M page 131 states that if you have...   Feb 17 2005, 06:26 PM
- - BitBasher   Woof. damnit I need M&M in PDF.... I've ne...   Feb 17 2005, 06:34 PM
- - mfb   it does beg the question: what if you've got b...   Feb 17 2005, 06:41 PM
- - Tarantula   Check the disablement rules right after the consci...   Feb 17 2005, 07:31 PM
- - CoalHeart   QUOTE (mfb) it does beg the question: what if you...   Feb 17 2005, 08:30 PM
- - mfb   well, sheesh. guess i need to read more.   Feb 17 2005, 08:44 PM


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