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Eyeless Blond
post Mar 7 2005, 05:38 PM
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I was looking over the spell Analyze Device for a character design, and the more I look at it, the more difficult it is to use properly. First off it's a spell which targets OR, and is meant to be cast on primarily technological devices, which means you'll be throwing against a TN of 8-10+ most of the time. As a result, you'll be getting *maybe* two or three successes (if you're lucky or just spent scads of Karma upping your casting skill.) Since you get one point of an appropriate B/R or background knowledge skill per two successes, this translates to maybe an effective skill of 1-2, and this is for an unusual amount of luck and a serious amount of mojo. Maybe there's something I'm just not seeing, but it seems to me that this spell is useless unless you're playing a 300+ karma supermage.

In your experience, have you seen any other spells that are basically useless in most cases like this spell?
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- Eyeless Blond   "Useless" spells?   Mar 7 2005, 05:38 PM
- - Tarantula   Well, thats for things like playing with a cyberde...   Mar 7 2005, 05:41 PM
- - hahnsoo   The idea, though, is that you'd know what a pa...   Mar 7 2005, 06:06 PM
- - tisoz   You're overlooking the -2 for familiarity with...   Mar 7 2005, 06:41 PM
- - JaronK   Analyze device can be a lot of fun for investigati...   Mar 7 2005, 06:50 PM
- - nezumi   Useless spells, huh? Control Thoughts - self Min...   Mar 7 2005, 07:47 PM
- - Dog   Maybe you could control thoughts-self to quit smok...   Mar 7 2005, 11:08 PM
- - LinaInverse   QUOTE (Dog) Maybe you could control thoughts-self ...   Mar 7 2005, 11:03 PM
- - tisoz   Freeze water is pretty useless as written. It loo...   Mar 8 2005, 12:58 AM
- - Smiley   Just 6. Elves have lowlight vision.   Mar 8 2005, 01:05 AM
- - Kanada Ten   The way tisoz interprets the spell (strict canon, ...   Mar 8 2005, 01:20 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (LinaInverse) To change personal habits (ie,...   Mar 8 2005, 01:26 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) In your experience, have you...   Mar 8 2005, 02:43 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Got another one/many: Enhance Aim. So many detec...   Mar 8 2005, 07:10 AM
- - tisoz   Right, so without the sustaining focus (Minimum Fo...   Mar 8 2005, 10:52 AM
- - Critias   Or for direct-combat teams that have magic users t...   Mar 8 2005, 11:00 AM
- - DrJest   Enhance Aim is one of those spells that, frankly, ...   Mar 8 2005, 01:41 PM
- - Da9iel   Doesn't Gecko Crawl have the same TN, the same...   Mar 9 2005, 10:40 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Gecko Crawl doesn't increase TN with weight, s...   Mar 9 2005, 10:46 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   LOL. Now I'm getting this mental image of Spid...   Mar 9 2005, 10:53 PM
- - Kanada Ten   But Gecko Crawl doesn't overcome encumbrance r...   Mar 9 2005, 11:12 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Trolls can have it cast on them too, you know. ~J   Mar 9 2005, 11:16 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, a troll, hanging from the wall, holding a car...   Mar 10 2005, 01:29 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   He'd have to be a pretty beefy troll to climb ...   Mar 10 2005, 04:57 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Gecko Crawl, as we were saying ~J   Mar 10 2005, 04:53 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   Sorry, let me clarify: With gecko crawl, the troll...   Mar 10 2005, 04:57 AM
- - tisoz   They do not have to "climb". The spell ...   Mar 10 2005, 09:50 AM
- - DarkShade   wouldnt that end up with a crumbling ledge and a f...   Mar 10 2005, 01:25 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) Sorry, let me clarify: W...   Mar 10 2005, 02:58 PM


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