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Akai Sokata
post Mar 13 2005, 03:58 PM
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Ok scope this. I was GMing as usual and one of my players picked up a sustain focus. he knows levitate so he locks it in at a force four with a target of himself. so does that me he always levities as long as he holds it?.

and a few more things about levitate? this one happened a few sessions ago, but another player of mine lavitaed a smug out the hands of some street garbage ganger. then proceeded to aim and cast another levitate on the trigger of the gun blasting it off in auto fire at the poor frager that got it stolen from him. don't worry about time this was over the course of three turns.

so the question is can levitate man a target, or can two levitate spells be cast on the same target.

as always pardon my spelling/grammar. im still a idiot
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- Akai Sokata   sustain focus, can it sustain any spell?   Mar 13 2005, 03:58 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Akai Sokata)Ok scope this. I was GMing as u...   Mar 13 2005, 04:13 PM
- - Aku   heh, this is actually very similar to a question i...   Mar 13 2005, 04:18 PM
- - Akai Sokata   QUOTE Hm. Well, I suppose it's not *technicall...   Mar 13 2005, 04:33 PM
- - DragginSPADE   QUOTE (Aku)heh, this is actually very similar to a...   Mar 13 2005, 04:45 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Basically. Remember that sus...   Mar 13 2005, 05:43 PM
- - Sharaloth   QUOTE Exactly. He will levitate in place. He has n...   Mar 13 2005, 06:06 PM
- - Edward   I would say you can’t fire the gun with any accura...   Mar 13 2005, 06:14 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Sharaloth) I have to disagree with this. Su...   Mar 13 2005, 06:34 PM
- - Sharaloth   Hmm, Tisoz, that would run counter to canon, so if...   Mar 13 2005, 06:58 PM
- - BitBasher   I agree with Tisoz on the spell lock issue. QUOTE...   Mar 13 2005, 07:02 PM
- - Sharaloth   then it's down to a rules-interpretation issue...   Mar 13 2005, 07:00 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Sharaloth) Hmm, Tisoz, that would run count...   Mar 13 2005, 07:09 PM
- - Sharaloth   QUOTE But when he passes the sustaining of the spe...   Mar 13 2005, 07:18 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (tisoz) Mage casts levitate, uses it to trav...   Mar 13 2005, 07:38 PM
- - mintcar   Is it impossible to use sustaining foci the way sp...   Mar 13 2005, 09:00 PM
- - Sharaloth   Erm... the Mage has to be within LOS to cast the s...   Mar 13 2005, 09:22 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Sharaloth) An Armor spell, for instance has...   Mar 13 2005, 09:31 PM
- - Sharaloth   'Maintaining' is the word I'm looking ...   Mar 13 2005, 10:02 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Akai Sokata) and a few more things about le...   Mar 13 2005, 10:13 PM
- - Rory Blackhand   This is an interesting thread. I haven't weigh...   Mar 13 2005, 11:18 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Sharaloth)I'll hold to what I see the r...   Mar 14 2005, 01:26 AM
- - JaronK   I'd say that a sustaining focus just sustains ...   Mar 14 2005, 01:39 AM
- - Da9iel   Yeah, that's the way we've always played. ...   Mar 14 2005, 01:57 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (tisoz) QUOTE (SR3.178)Sustained spells can ...   Mar 14 2005, 01:56 AM
- - Sharaloth   No, Tisoz, you are not proven right by your refere...   Mar 14 2005, 01:59 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Dawnshadow) The canon references specify th...   Mar 14 2005, 02:31 AM
- - Sharaloth   And that just makes me think you're completely...   Mar 14 2005, 02:38 AM
- - Dawnshadow   The mage HAS to have control of the spell. He cast...   Mar 14 2005, 02:49 AM
- - JaronK   The reason we're defaulting to the mage contro...   Mar 14 2005, 02:56 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   You can't CONTROL a spell sustained by another...   Mar 14 2005, 03:07 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand)You can't CONTROL a spel...   Mar 14 2005, 03:19 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   Yes it is a good analogy. It is the only one that ...   Mar 14 2005, 03:24 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   And there may or may not be anything in cannon. Bu...   Mar 14 2005, 03:20 AM
- - Fortune   Back that up with a canon quote then. The TN pena...   Mar 14 2005, 03:30 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Funny thing is, all this is irrelevant for Levitat...   Mar 14 2005, 03:23 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand) And there may or may not be...   Mar 14 2005, 03:31 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   Ok, forget the illusions. I have 12 sustaining foc...   Mar 14 2005, 03:29 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE It isn't there for a reason. The design...   Mar 14 2005, 03:30 AM
- - Sharaloth   Rory, your first post and the comments therein rel...   Mar 14 2005, 03:43 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Alright, mental excerise outfits on people Time t...   Mar 14 2005, 03:44 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   Oh my god, never before had I thought of how game ...   Mar 14 2005, 03:51 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   Well, it is late here. I have to sleep. Tomorrow I...   Mar 14 2005, 03:46 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE Those illusions will keep doing whatever it ...   Mar 14 2005, 03:53 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   I can't recall if it's actually in the boo...   Mar 14 2005, 04:09 AM
- - Sharaloth   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand @ Mar 13 2005, 10:46 PM...   Mar 14 2005, 04:17 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand) Well, it is late here. I ha...   Mar 14 2005, 04:19 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   To dissociate from Rory's 12 strawmen ballet, ...   Mar 14 2005, 04:25 AM
- - Sharaloth   No mention of a simple action to move in SR3. I as...   Mar 14 2005, 04:38 AM
- - Fortune   A few things about Rory's Strawman post(s)... ...   Mar 14 2005, 04:33 AM
- - toturi   By the book, a sustaining focus only sustains a sp...   Mar 14 2005, 04:47 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   The book ninja has spoken. I just _really_ wante...   Mar 14 2005, 04:51 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand @ Mar 13 2005, 10:53 PM...   Mar 14 2005, 04:47 AM
- - toturi   For example, if he chooses to levitate something t...   Mar 14 2005, 05:04 AM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (toturi) By the book, a sustaining focus onl...   Mar 14 2005, 06:18 AM
- - Dissonance   Gee, who'd think that a potent piece of magic ...   Mar 14 2005, 06:39 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE Yes there is. The part that says the caster ...   Mar 14 2005, 06:43 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Dissonance) Gee, who'd think that a pot...   Mar 14 2005, 08:00 AM
- - JaronK   Toturi... the passage in the rulebook that says th...   Mar 14 2005, 08:20 AM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE It's not a book quote, but it's a qu...   Mar 14 2005, 08:25 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand) Well, it is late here. I ha...   Mar 14 2005, 08:51 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Mar 14 2005, 07:00 PM...   Mar 14 2005, 12:16 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (JaronK @ Mar 14 2005, 04:20 PM) Toturi...   Mar 14 2005, 12:44 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 14 2005, 11:44 PM) The sp...   Mar 14 2005, 12:58 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Wow, so it took you all night to come back to the ...   Mar 14 2005, 02:31 PM
- - Fortune   Who is it you are talking about? I have maintained...   Mar 14 2005, 02:51 PM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (Fortune) Besides, this is still page 1...   Mar 14 2005, 02:56 PM
- - Fortune   Bah! Silly people that view the Forum on the ...   Mar 14 2005, 02:58 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Fortune) Who is it you are talking about? I...   Mar 14 2005, 03:53 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Funny thing is, all this is ...   Mar 14 2005, 04:38 PM
- - mintcar   I think control is given to the caster even if usi...   Mar 14 2005, 05:17 PM
- - Da9iel   @Tarantula: Toturi may keep the "bookninja...   Mar 14 2005, 11:03 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   The whole point is that there is no such thing as ...   Mar 14 2005, 11:19 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Oh, and you want quotes? Here: QUOTE (pg. 183 SR3...   Mar 14 2005, 11:31 PM
- - JaronK   QUOTE (Tarantula) QUOTE (pg. 197 @ SR3)Levit...   Mar 14 2005, 11:34 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Mar 15 2005, 12:38 AM) QUO...   Mar 14 2005, 11:36 PM
- - JaronK   The quote says the spell lets the caster move thin...   Mar 14 2005, 11:47 PM
- - toturi   Yes, the caster controls the movement but who cont...   Mar 14 2005, 11:57 PM
- - JaronK   So... you're saying that the sustaining focus ...   Mar 15 2005, 12:19 AM
- - toturi   I am saying that there is nothing in canon that sa...   Mar 15 2005, 12:29 AM
- - toturi   Double post   Mar 15 2005, 12:29 AM
- - Da9iel   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond Posted on Mar 14 2005 @ ...   Mar 15 2005, 02:34 AM
- - Sharaloth   The problem we're having, and this is just dum...   Mar 15 2005, 03:00 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE Wait. I just gotta see if I can organize you...   Mar 15 2005, 03:28 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Return to my post which included a discussion on w...   Mar 15 2005, 03:49 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand)Nothing posted so far has pr...   Mar 15 2005, 03:52 AM
- - Sharaloth   I can't resist responding, but I will resist i...   Mar 15 2005, 04:11 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand @ Mar 14 2005, 10:28 PM...   Mar 15 2005, 04:31 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE Now, please stop and consider it. Changing t...   Mar 15 2005, 04:42 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   I'm going to address three of your points in r...   Mar 15 2005, 04:39 AM
- - toturi   Since Canon does not state that the caster of Levi...   Mar 15 2005, 04:40 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand @ Mar 14 2005, 11:42 PM...   Mar 15 2005, 04:45 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand)You are correct. It was mean...   Mar 15 2005, 05:12 AM
- - Dawnshadow   QUOTE QUOTE Now, please stop and consider it. Chan...   Mar 15 2005, 05:22 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE For my own sake, yes I did. You were making ...   Mar 15 2005, 05:21 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE Since Canon does not state that the caster o...   Mar 15 2005, 05:35 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand) Some people refuse to belie...   Mar 15 2005, 05:37 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE Once again you are making shit up in a vain ...   Mar 15 2005, 05:45 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rory Blackhand @ Mar 15 2005, 04:45 PM...   Mar 15 2005, 05:56 AM
- - Rory Blackhand   QUOTE I believe I have sufficiently proven that ch...   Mar 15 2005, 05:58 AM
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