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post Apr 4 2005, 07:29 PM
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Okay, I am not saying that hermetics suck or anything but come on.

Shamans have to buy a single mojo place, that costs rating times rating times 100 Nuyen.

Hermetics have to buy two places that both cost ten times as much.

Shaman can go out and summon a spirit on the fly, and it doesn't cost him a thing.

Hermetics have to pay thousands of nuyen to get an elemental.

So, really why do hermetics have to pay so much? I mean I can see hermetics having to pay to get items to summon elementals,and I can see two libieries... But I think they should at worst cost a tenth of what they do now.
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- Cynic project   Hemetics cost to much   Apr 4 2005, 07:29 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (Cynic project) Shaman can go out and summon...   Apr 4 2005, 07:40 PM
- - Cynic project   So, a bit drain and waiting aorund equals thoundan...   Apr 4 2005, 08:01 PM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Cynic project @ Apr 4 2005, 02:29 PM) ...   Apr 4 2005, 11:07 PM
- - Commiekeebler   Hermetics can summon up a harem of 6-8 elementals,...   Apr 4 2005, 11:50 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Shamanic conjuring has some pretty hefty drawbacks...   Apr 4 2005, 11:00 PM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE (Dawnshadow)Sure, a starting shaman can conj...   Apr 5 2005, 01:02 AM
- - Jérémie   QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Apr 5 2005, 03:02 AM) Who m...   Apr 5 2005, 01:15 AM
- - kevyn668   A GM telling me I can't have a 6 in Charisma b...   Apr 5 2005, 01:39 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (kevyn668) Who makes a shaman with less than...   Apr 5 2005, 12:52 AM
- - Dissonance   Plus, the advantage of a hermetic library is that ...   Apr 5 2005, 02:25 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Started with Charisma 3 on a shaman.. up to 5 now....   Apr 5 2005, 01:28 AM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE (hahnsoo)QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Apr 4 2005, ...   Apr 5 2005, 01:46 AM
- - Dawnshadow   Starting Shaman-Adept had Cha 3, Str 4, Bod 4 (Qui...   Apr 5 2005, 04:39 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (kevyn668) Are you actually telling me that ...   Apr 5 2005, 03:45 AM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (hahnsoo) Bla bla bla, yada yada... I do...   Apr 6 2005, 08:35 PM
- - Skyrock   I agree to Cynic that libraries should get cheaper...   Apr 7 2005, 04:15 PM
- - Vuron   Maybe in order to distinguish the shamanic and her...   Apr 7 2005, 03:21 PM
- - Skyrock   And what with the other traditions like Psionic? I...   Apr 7 2005, 03:26 PM
- - Vuron   QUOTE (Skyrock) And what with the other traditions...   Apr 7 2005, 04:45 PM
- - Skyrock   I think it's even very unlikely it will happen...   Apr 7 2005, 04:19 PM
- - CradleWorm   Okay... so back to the original point about why El...   Apr 7 2005, 04:53 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (Skyrock) And what with the other traditions...   Apr 8 2005, 08:57 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (CradleWorm) #2) Vision Hermatic magician...   Apr 8 2005, 08:59 PM
- - Fortune   In my opinion, Psionics should be done away with. ...   Apr 8 2005, 08:59 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Cynic project)I don't care if you want ...   Apr 8 2005, 09:09 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Cynic project)I don't care ...   Apr 8 2005, 09:28 PM
- - mfb   yeah. i agree with that.   Apr 8 2005, 09:31 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Fortune) In my opinion, Psionics should be ...   Apr 8 2005, 09:32 PM
- - mfb   same here. i've been pondering a concept for a...   Apr 8 2005, 09:34 PM
- - warrior_allanon   the reason psionics in SR sucks is because your be...   Apr 8 2005, 11:23 PM
- - mfb   that's a piss-poor reason, allanon. for one, t...   Apr 9 2005, 01:04 AM
- - warrior_allanon   and it is, its all a matter of how you play the ma...   Apr 9 2005, 01:12 AM
- - mfb   try actually playing one, man. they suck, compared...   Apr 9 2005, 01:21 AM
- - warrior_allanon   kinda similar to a shaman if you ask me........   Apr 9 2005, 01:24 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Don't forget they can't use foci, can...   Apr 9 2005, 01:41 AM
- - mfb   yes, if by "similar" you mean "whol...   Apr 9 2005, 01:56 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   The biggie, though, is the "can't use foc...   Apr 9 2005, 02:44 AM
- - mfb   true.   Apr 9 2005, 02:48 AM
- - apple   QUOTE try actually playing one, man. they suck, co...   Apr 9 2005, 12:05 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Actually, if I recall correctly, the spell list fo...   Apr 9 2005, 01:32 PM
- - Skyrock   If I had to redesign Psionics I would make them so...   Apr 9 2005, 03:06 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (hahnsoo) QUOTE (mfb @ Apr 8 2005, 04:0...   Apr 9 2005, 08:53 PM
- - mfb   well, it came out all wrong, then.   Apr 10 2005, 11:29 AM
- - Critias   Maybe his name was supposed to be a giveaway.   Apr 10 2005, 11:50 AM
- - Kesh   QUOTE (apple) QUOTE try actually playing one, man....   Apr 11 2005, 02:28 AM
- - Sharaloth   I'm in agreement with Kesh. I had a loooong ar...   Apr 11 2005, 03:30 AM
- - Ellery   I think the rules suggest that looking at magic as...   Apr 11 2005, 04:12 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Well obviously, yes, but when you come to nail dow...   Apr 11 2005, 05:32 AM
- - hahnsoo   I think the common ground is that a Magical tradit...   Apr 11 2005, 06:02 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Well obviously, yes, but whe...   Apr 11 2005, 06:16 AM
- - hyzmarca   Really, if you changed the term "mana" t...   Apr 11 2005, 06:24 AM
- - Fortune   My point is that other magical traditions acknowle...   Apr 11 2005, 06:26 AM
- - Sharaloth   Hermetics acknowledge and outside influence? One t...   Apr 11 2005, 06:31 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Even worse are the shamans, who think that they...   Apr 11 2005, 06:37 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Sharaloth) Hermetics acknowledge and outsid...   Apr 11 2005, 06:53 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Apr 11 2005, 04:37 PM)...   Apr 11 2005, 06:55 AM
- - Sharaloth   Actually, Fortune, I'd suggest that it's a...   Apr 11 2005, 08:22 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Sharaloth) Hermetics don't see magic in...   Apr 11 2005, 08:59 AM
- - Sharaloth   Exactly   Apr 11 2005, 09:21 AM
- - Ellery   As a scientist, I object strenuously to classifyin...   Apr 11 2005, 09:30 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Ellery @ Apr 11 2005, 04:30 AM) As a s...   Apr 11 2005, 09:59 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Ellery)Hermetics, as described in various s...   Apr 11 2005, 10:15 AM
- - hahnsoo   One analogy that I like to compare to Hermetic Mag...   Apr 11 2005, 10:27 AM
- - sapphire_wyvern   QUOTE (Vuron) What I'm saying though is that y...   Apr 11 2005, 10:38 AM
- - Ellery   Eyeless, where do you get your information on the ...   Apr 11 2005, 10:48 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Ellery @ Apr 11 2005, 05:48 AM) hahnso...   Apr 11 2005, 11:11 AM
- - hahnsoo   Another example (but by no means, a perfect one) i...   Apr 11 2005, 11:25 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Ellery)Let's go through all the ways in...   Apr 11 2005, 11:58 AM
- - hahnsoo   From SR3, the description of the Hermetic traditio...   Apr 11 2005, 12:17 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond)Most scientists I know--or at...   Apr 11 2005, 04:42 PM
- - Ellery   Maybe I'm not explaining my position particula...   Apr 11 2005, 05:37 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Ellery)Eyeless, by "universal truth...   Apr 11 2005, 10:15 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) This is actually why magic i...   Apr 11 2005, 10:29 PM
- - Cynic project   Well, it seems that the idea of fluff being import...   Apr 11 2005, 10:29 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Ellery) QUOTE Doctors ARE scientists, some ...   Apr 11 2005, 11:50 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond)Magic is in fact impossible t...   Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM
- - hahnsoo   Another element is the fact that hermetics take HO...   Apr 12 2005, 12:01 AM
- - mfb   yes, except that different crackpot theories work ...   Apr 12 2005, 12:35 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (mfb @ Apr 11 2005, 07:35 PM) yes, exce...   Apr 12 2005, 12:41 AM
- - mfb   the point is, no one investigates why Subjective T...   Apr 12 2005, 12:47 AM
- - Wireknight   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) That happens to be true in c...   Apr 12 2005, 12:50 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (mfb @ Apr 11 2005, 07:47 PM) the point...   Apr 12 2005, 12:50 AM
- - Penta   QUOTE (hahnsoo) This is not always true. Patients...   Apr 12 2005, 01:38 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Penta) pediatrics for two examples in point...   Apr 12 2005, 01:45 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (mfb) the point isn't that "real...   Apr 12 2005, 01:56 AM
- - Penta   QUOTE (hahnsoo) Pediatrics is veterinary medicine ...   Apr 12 2005, 03:03 AM
- - Ellery   QUOTE what religion to you most identify with? If ...   Apr 12 2005, 03:03 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Ellery @ Apr 11 2005, 10:03 PM) I gues...   Apr 12 2005, 03:23 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Penta @ Apr 11 2005, 10:03 PM) Re pedi...   Apr 12 2005, 03:29 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond)So, we have four scientists b...   Apr 12 2005, 03:34 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (mfb) Find me a hermetic that knows the firs...   Apr 12 2005, 03:55 AM
- - mfb   i don't get anything like that at all, from re...   Apr 12 2005, 04:08 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (mfb) i don't get anything like that at ...   Apr 12 2005, 04:18 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   There's nothing like that in SR3, but from my ...   Apr 12 2005, 04:20 AM
- - Penta   QUOTE (hahnsoo) QUOTE (Penta @ Apr 11 2005, 1...   Apr 12 2005, 04:33 AM
- - Ellery   QUOTE Most of the barriers to health care are not ...   Apr 12 2005, 05:44 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (hansoo)The first thing he will do is ...   Apr 12 2005, 05:49 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Apr 11 2005, 09:18 PM) QUOTE...   Apr 12 2005, 06:07 AM
- - RunnerPaul   Alright, let me toss something out: Hermetics aren...   Apr 12 2005, 06:17 AM
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